TOMapleLaughs Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 The Kane reference is a very good analogy. This is also the guy that shipped out Seguin which concerns meHmm. Neither player won anything though. ... I dunno, heard this 'character' stuff before with Coho. I don't have a problem with Benning's drafts so far, so all we can hope for is that he keeps it up. It's a process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
people please Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I hope he continues to do such a bad job that we eventually keep getting top five picks and end up like Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 It might just be me but these last 4 Benning interviews (over the last month) have all asked the same questions and got the same answers. You would get the same answers from the majority of other GM's whose teams have been eliminated/did'nt make the playoffs...I'm sure Benning is not going to reveal his strategy just to keep cdc'ers happy..At least he's happy to give you some insight....Remember Gillis's interviews?..he would give you squat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 The Kane reference is a very good analogy. This is also the guy that shipped out Seguin which concerns me This is a misconception and not true, at all.http://youtu.be/JRyIgatcTAs No where does Benning ever say a thing when asked about Seguin, only time be talked was when Horton was gone. Neely and Chiarelli both brought up the idea to trade him cause they were not satisfied with Seguin and weren't patient. They had the final say and ultimately traded him. Benning DID NOT "ship out" Seguin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 They had already won their cup, so trading Seguin at the time was moot, whether Benning was onboard with the idea or not. I'd consider it part of their cost of winning a cup, really. All we can do is hope for the best here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I hope he continues to do such a bad job that we eventually keep getting top five picks and end up like Chicago. He hasn't really done a bad job. drafting 6th overall to making the playoffs the next year is an accomplishment and that's just one thing he set out to do. He also acquired young players like Baertchi, Pedan and Clendening which improved Utica and gave us more prospect depth. Unless we go full rebuild I doubt we ever are crappy enough to get into the top 5, not while the Sedins are still here. Should be interesting to see how we do when Miller is gone though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 And since Seguin was brought up, man, he was given away for dirt cheap. Seguin, Peverley, Button for Eriksson, Morrow, Smith Fraser...wow lol. Any team, even the Canucks could've offered that value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 No the real panic is when Canucks fans just stop caring. The real question is why are you here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 It might just be me but these last 4 Benning interviews (over the last month) have all asked the same questions and got the same answers.It's a process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireGillis Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I hope lack gets traded to Edmonton and he has success with mcdavid. The amount of disrespect Benning continues to show him compared to his golden boy signing of miller is just sickening. First it's the when miller is on it gives the team confidence quote. Oh so when lack is on it doesnt give the team the same confidence? Considering the fact lack outperformed miller last year I would guess lack playing well gave the team just as much or more confidence than with miller. Today it's the lack is still too young excuse when he's 27 now and isn't some young rookie anymore yet still gets treated like one by Benning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 maybe we can get a pick outside the 1st round and target a right handed shot center whos good at faceoffs would be a nice touch aswell with some size. Not sure howmany of those their are in the draft this year tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Here's the interview in case the link hasn't been posted yet. http://www.tsn.ca/radio/vancouver-1040-i-1410/benning-miller-stays-lack-or-markstrom-will-be-traded-1.311097 EDIT: and I see it was. Ah yes. "La-la-la-la-la. Let's not listen or think." I listened and I wasn't able to draw any of the same conclusions as you so definitively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckpuckluck1 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I've been very happy watching what Benning has done with the team , but I'm pretty steamed about the very poor asset management when it comes to Matthias! Surely Benning and Linden knew they could not match whatever offer Mattias was going get for next year, especially after a career year Matthias was going to want to cash in! He would have gotten the Canucks a very good haul at the trade deadline, if you look at what was being thrown around at the time I have no doubt draft picks in the first or second round or maybe some prospects could have been exchanged, but now nothing. i just think this is very poor asset management. Yes he may have been needed for the playoffs, but in all honesty I believe Benning should have made a deal and worked with what he had. Maybe if Kassian was not broken he would have felt more comfortable dealing Matthias ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierdaddy Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I thought it was telling GMJB said he thinks they can get a forward with top 6 potential at 23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Benning took over a year ago, and he already added 3 either defensemen under the age of 25 - Sbisa, Pedan, and Clendening. (Say what you want about Sbisa, but he played well for portions of the year. He could still figure it out and be a solid 2nd pairing guy.) He has done a lot to address the lack of young D depth already. His actions show it's a concern that he's focused on. Who gives a crap how much he emphasizes this in an interview? I applauded the Clendenning pick up. Still like it. Having watched his speed, which is not as A grade as his skills, I am speculating to project a good depth D and PP specialist. All which helps. But does not (edit did not currently) fit in the line up, aka him being sent down to Utica. And of course he'll be up next year as he wont clear waivers. Same for Corrado. Who I speculate projects as a good depth two way defender. Both of whom are on the medium, not large size. And do either project as top end guys? They can be good pieces and our puzzle still does not fit together as you like. There is still restructuring to do (unless my projections are wrong, which is possible). And precious little being said until that statement I commented on, and you responded to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierdaddy Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I've been very happy watching what Benning has done with the team , but I'm pretty steamed about the very poor asset management when it comes to Matthias! Surely Benning and Linden knew they could not match whatever offer Mattias was going get for next year, especially after a career year Matthias was going to want to cash in! He would have gotten the Canucks a very good haul at the trade deadline, if you look at what was being thrown around at the time I have no doubt draft picks in the first or second round or maybe some prospects could have been exchanged, but now nothing. i just think this is very poor asset management. Yes he may have been needed for the playoffs, but in all honesty I believe Benning should have made a deal and worked with what he had. Maybe if Kassian was not broken he would have felt more comfortable dealing Matthias ? We don't know what, if anything, was offered for Matthias. I think he was exposed this year. Had a decent opportunity, contributed some goals but really was mostly streaky, wasn't physical, and really one of the no-shows in the playoffs IMO. Clearly the club is comfortable moving on. They kept him with the hopes of simply making the playoffs. Team won't forsake playoffs for the re-tool. Now time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 This is a misconception and not true, at all. No where does Benning ever say a thing when asked about Seguin, only time be talked was when Horton was gone. Neely and Chiarelli both brought up the idea to trade him cause they were not satisfied with Seguin and weren't patient. They had the final say and ultimately traded him. Benning DID NOT "ship out" Seguin. Seguin getting dealt had more to do with him sleeping with his team mates wifes than it did anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I've been very happy watching what Benning has done with the team , but I'm pretty steamed about the very poor asset management when it comes to Matthias! Surely Benning and Linden knew they could not match whatever offer Mattias was going get for next year, especially after a career year Matthias was going to want to cash in! He would have gotten the Canucks a very good haul at the trade deadline, if you look at what was being thrown around at the time I have no doubt draft picks in the first or second round or maybe some prospects could have been exchanged, but now nothing. i just think this is very poor asset management. Yes he may have been needed for the playoffs, but in all honesty I believe Benning should have made a deal and worked with what he had. Maybe if Kassian was not broken he would have felt more comfortable dealing Matthias ? Small assets like that aren't anything to get upset over. What really was Matthias going to get us in return? Every year teams let go bottom 9 players to UFA, you can't always trade everyone, canucks were still in a playoff race. It's the big ones that have the big value that would be concerning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BI3KSA- Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 -Both pro and anti-Markstrom in the same thoughts. -This market understands that signing Miller was a mistake. -Prepare to lose Markstrom on waivers, or get relatively nothing for Lack. -We're not getting any more picks. -Grenier in, Kassian out. -Bieksa out. -Bartschi's top-6 role not a sure thing. -Shinkaruk is still aways away. Injury took it's toll. Probably not fast enough to become a star. -Gaunce is a 4th liner. -Bieksa is packing his stuff. Hamhuis on notice. -Prepare for some more 'need a job' castoff prospects to get a shot here. -Would pass on Patrick Kane. -Matthias should have already been traded. -Richardson is gone too. -Complete about-face with regards to who to take at 23. -Prepare for a crap draft. -Prepare for further re-tooling of the defense with other teams' crap. -You might be rewarded next season with being able to see Virtanen for 8mins a game. -Chicago re-tooled their roster with multiple young franchise players already in place, after they won a cup. I hope he's just trolling us. Ah yes. "La-la-la-la-la. Let's not listen or think." La-la-la-la lets be as obnoxiously negative as possible. Interviews witth GMs rarely reveal important info/the moves they want to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkayloomeh Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Small assets like that aren't anything to get upset over. What really was Matthias going to get us in return? Every year teams let go bottom 9 players to UFA, you can't always trade everyone, canucks were still in a playoff race. It's the big ones that have the big value that would be concerning. I disagree. If they knew he wasn't going to be resigned then he should have been traded. We could have gotten at least a second for him. We would have made the playoffs without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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