Dekey Pete Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I guess the idea would be to try to improve. That should be the plan for every GM in the league, no? It kind of goes without saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 That should be the plan for every GM in the league, no? It kind of goes without saying.Ah, but actually doing it, that's the difference. Steadily, the Canucks have. But as to now probably not by enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Motorcycles in Bourdon's case Car accident in Yann Sauvé's case Puck in the eye in Ohlund's case Back injury in Edler's case All of them had a shot at true stud #1 d-man. For all the Canucks suck at drafting crowd I offer a challenge. find out who the Canucks could have drafted if they merely took the next best player available according to central scouting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Sauve true #1 stud eh? Alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Sure, everything looks bad when you remember it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Ellington over PK was crazy by any standard, but then again a lot of teams passed on PK. Makes you wonder. Makes you wonder why so many GMs shy away from players with "attitude" or cockiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Wish I knew what Florida was asking for the Ekblad pick. When the draft started on tsn and said the canucks are in talks i got pretty pumped. Linden sure looked down the rest of the draft, franchise d man like that dont come around that often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Canucks first #1 d-man pick was Dale Tallon. Truly a gifted dman but they through him right into theNHL and I think he could have been developed better than that. Quickly I would mention Ohlund andeven Guevramont(sorry about the spelling). Bourdon never had enough games to make any conclusion as towhere he would have evolved too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onesmallleap Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 We've had a couple of chances to get #1-2 Dmen In the draft but passed. Our scouting on DMEn have been atrocious !! Can you imagine how differently our franchise history would be had we not made some of these mistake. Drafted Within 7 spots from where we were then picking. Kiril Koltslov instead of Duncan Keith Nathan Smith instead of Niklas Kronwall Cody Hodgson instead of Erik Karlsson or even Tyler Myers. Cory Schneider instead of Mike Green Mason Raymond instead of Kristopher Letang Taylor Ellington instead of PK SUBBAN Anton Rodin instead of Tyson Barrie Jury is still out on Shea Theodore whom we passed on for Shinkaruk just so you know we could of had Ray Borque also.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Industrious1 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Who's to say that if the Canucks drafted these guys they'd have even developed the same way? Its pretty well documented how terrible we've been bringing guys up to the NHL and there is just a good of chance management would have wrecked a guy like Keith rather than have him ascend to #1 status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Romo Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 I would rather Schneider than green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon45ca Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 We've had a couple of chances to get #1-2 Dmen In the draft but passed. Our scouting on DMEn have been atrocious !! Can you imagine how differently our franchise history would be had we not made some of these mistake. Drafted Within 7 spots from where we were then picking. Kiril Koltslov instead of Duncan Keith Nathan Smith instead of Niklas Kronwall Cody Hodgson instead of Erik Karlsson or even Tyler Myers. Cory Schneider instead of Mike Green Mason Raymond instead of Kristopher Letang Taylor Ellington instead of PK SUBBAN Anton Rodin instead of Tyson Barrie Jury is still out on Shea Theodore whom we passed on for Shinkaruk A lot of teams passed on those D men...just goes to show that you never really know what type of player a draft pick could turn out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPatrick33 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 This post would have been more accurate if you posted the Canucks drafting and development record. The 2011 team had the Sedins, Kesler, Edler, Raymond, Schneids so plenty of decent development there. However, absolute reaches like Nathan Smith, Rodin, Schroeder etc really hit home since even the consensus rankings had them nowhere near their selection pick. Seems for a while there we went on a swedish binge, rather than getting some rough and tumble canadian kids. Our best draft day selections in order: Bure, Linden, The Sedins, Kesler and Schneider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEON.KNEE Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 For sure Bourdon would have been a great defenseman. He used a tragic and gruesome death as a witty non sequitor in a post. If you were Luc's brother and someone made that statement, how would you react to such a flippant comment? grow up I hope we draft a D-man, and that the Canucks management forbid any future prospects from riding motorcycles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPatrick33 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 The thing with D-man is that they take a little longer to develop. I believe this is the reason Benning traded Forsling for Clendening. If the WJC were any indication, Forsling looked to have an NHL caliber slapper on the PP, but at least 3-4 years away from the bigs. Lets hope this doesnt deter Benning from grabbing one in the draft, remember he has gone on record as saying he will draft the "best player available" be it D or forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 This post would have been more accurate if you posted the Canucks drafting and development record. The 2011 team had the Sedins, Kesler, Edler, Raymond, Schneids so plenty of decent development there. However, absolute reaches like Nathan Smith, Rodin, Schroeder etc really hit home since even the consensus rankings had them nowhere near their selection pick. Seems for a while there we went on a swedish binge, rather than getting some rough and tumble canadian kids. Our best draft day selections in order: Bure, Linden, The Sedins, Kesler and Schneider. I don't agree with your selections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPatrick33 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 I don't agree with your selections Which selections would you make as the best all time draftees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Which selections would you make as the best all time draftees? What about guys like Stan Smyl, Cam Neely, Igor Larionov, Alex Edler, Matthias Ohlund, Garth Butcher, Harold Snepsts etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyHatnDart Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Ouch.... But...yeahhh... Lol amen. On a serious note, RIP Bourdon. We have no idea what kind of player we would have had in him but I have a very strong feeling we would've loved this guy for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPatrick33 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 What about guys like Stan Smyl, Cam Neely, Igor Larionov, Alex Edler, Matthias Ohlund, Garth Butcher, Harold Snepsts etc Besides Neely, those arent franchise altering draft picks. Those are excellent depth guys though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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