hockeyguy1234 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 OK, given KB3 might be traded shortly, I have to give him the respect he deserves. He is honestly one of the toughest pound for pound fighters I have ever seen in the NHL. When he's in full rage mode, like when he beat up that giant (I think his last name was Gill) who now plays for New York, I'm not sure Dave Semenko could've stopped him. Having said that, here are 5 tough SOB's who were tough but smaller than heavyweights. How you would rank them from 1 to 5. Kevin Bieksa Rick Rypien (RIP) Wendel Clark Rick Tocchet Chris Neil I'd go: Tocchet Rypien Clark Bieksa Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanBeef Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Hockey fights are alot different now compared to back in the day. Much more technical now. For example, a guy like Kassian would probably do much better back then compared to now, his fighting style is very similar to Probert's but all the tugging and grappling now makes it hard for him to look like a great fighter. Anyways in terms of how highly they were regarded in their era. Tocchet Rypien Clark Neil Bieksa I think the giant you're talking about was Aaron Voros or Brian Boyle. Rypien beat up Gill. Voros and Boyle are both big but are huge punching bags, but still, gotta give Bieksa credit for those. Tocchet, Rypien, and Clark are all close though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saucypass Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 None better than Rick Rypien my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justdean10 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I wouldn't really consider Chris Neil small.. 6'1 215.. that's a fair size guy in my opinion. He's no John Scott but still. That makes him only 2 inchs shorter than Kassian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 They say Stan Jonathon was pretty tough, back in the day.Tiger Williams wasn't huge, was he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPatrick33 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 How about Dorsett? He is tiny, yet will fight anyone (including Jon Scott this year)! I would have to give him the belt, simply because he is not built like the others. I give him extra credit for his guts as well, he doesnt hesitate to take on anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Hypothetical fight? "Say I happen to punch you in the face, how would you react?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoted Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Hockey fights are alot different now compared to back in the day. Much more technical now. For example, a guy like Kassian would probably do much better back then compared to now, his fighting style is very similar to Probert's but all the tugging and grappling now makes it hard for him to look like a great fighter. Anyways in terms of how highly they were regarded in their era. Tocchet Rypien Clark Neil Bieksa I think the giant you're talking about was Aaron Voros or Brian Boyle. Rypien beat up Gill. Voros and Boyle are both big but are huge punching bags, but still, gotta give Bieksa credit for those. Tocchet, Rypien, and Clark are all close though. I watched a lot of Voros when he was with the Salsa - he was tall but not a fighter really (he did fight, but he wasn't a heavy-weight or a goon). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyguy1234 Posted June 26, 2015 Author Share Posted June 26, 2015 Hypothetical fight? "Say I happen to punch you in the face, how would you react?" What I meant was two of these 5 fighting each other. but if you punch someone in the face they will either turtle, run, or go into beast mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 How about Dorsett? He is tiny, yet will fight anyone (including Jon Scott this year)! I would have to give him the belt, simply because he is not built like the others. I give him extra credit for his guts as well, he doesnt hesitate to take on anyone Ripper would have smashed him , went to the box , then came out and did it again 5 minutes after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I'd like to see a situation of 'spontaneous combustion' between two non-fighting types. Drop gloves due to frustration, then reasonably decide to settle with 'rock, scissors, paper'. Might start a trend. John & John could really build it up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanBeef Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I watched a lot of Voros when he was with the Salsa - he was tall but not a fighter really (he did fight, but he wasn't a heavy-weight or a goon). yeah, as I said, he was a punching bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRypien37 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 LOL! Bieksa one of the toughest pound for pound??! I actually laughed out loud. I wouldn't even put him in the top 50. He has never even fought a legitimate heavy weight (unless you consider Ben Eager one). He also picks his spots more then any other "fighter" in the league and has been called out on in numerous times by fellow players. I'm not old enough for some of the fighters on that list...I can do one from the 2000's up. 1. Rick Rypien 2. Brett Gallant 3. Cam Janssen 4. Chris Neil 5. Jim Vandermeer/Shawn Thornton (as much as it pains me to list him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 To be fair...Bieksa is the worst of those all. Rypien wasn't that short, but he was a lightweight for sure. He's gotta be near #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 They say Stan Jonathon was pretty tough, back in the day. Tiger Williams wasn't huge, was he? Oh yeah..Jonathon was real tough...ask Montreals tough guy Bouchard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoted Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 LOL! Bieksa one of the toughest pound for pound??! I actually laughed out loud. I wouldn't even put him in the top 50. He has never even fought a legitimate heavy weight (unless you consider Ben Eager one). He also picks his spots more then any other "fighter" in the league and has been called out on in numerous times by fellow players. I'm not old enough for some of the fighters on that list...I can do one from the 2000's up. 1. Rick Rypien 2. Brett Gallant 3. Cam Janssen 4. Chris Neil 5. Jim Vandermeer/Shawn Thornton (as much as it pains me to list him). Bieksa really isn't a fighter so it's a bit unfair to try to rank him as one. Yes, he lost it a couple of times and went off on a few people, but that hardly makes him a fighter IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Tie Domi gave up a lot of height to a lot of guys. He has to be PFP one of the best. Not too many guys under 180 that ever fought guys over 200, but Rypien did it on the regular. I'm not sure if it was his first fight, but during I think pre-season game he turned Brandon Prust's head into a speed bag at centre ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hlinkas wrister Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Rypien vs. Clark would have been epic. Tocchet was 215 lbs, hardly smaller than a heavyweight in those days. Bieksa will drop em but I don't think of him as a fighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Rypien fought everyone and anyone. I bet he could knockout Money Maywheather. Full homerism engaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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