drdeath Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 As a Christian, I strongly disagree with this. Why? They have a right to get married. You have a right to think they're going to hell for getting married. The two need never cross paths. On topic: Congrats 'Merica! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsedin33 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 You can hate peoples choices- being gay. You can't hate them for something they're born with- Down Syndrome. Since according to the bible being Gay is a choice, we can disagree with them. Now a Christian should not hate a gay for being gay, however hate the fact they chose to be gay. Just like ignorance is a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Separation of church and state. They are two completely different entities that do not and should not rule eachother. Well, as long as there's corruption in the church they shouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 You can hate peoples choices- being gay. You can't hate them for something they're born with- Down Syndrome. Since according to the bible being Gay is a choice, we can disagree with them. Now a Christian should not hate a gay for being gay, however hate the fact they chose to be gay. Being gay isn't a choice for 99.999% of people. It's not totally biological either. It's tough to explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalky Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Well, as long as there's corruption in the church they shouldn't. Or ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commercial Canuck Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 You can hate peoples choices- being gay. You can't hate them for something they're born with- Down Syndrome. Since according to the bible being Gay is a choice, we can disagree with them. Now a Christian should not hate a gay for being gay, however hate the fact they chose to be gay. Please, go find yourself some scientific literacy and come back to the 21st Century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatedkid666 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Bout time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster6 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Being gay isn't a choice for 99.999% of people. It's not totally biological either. It's tough to explain. What thread was it that I really tried to dive into this. I almost wanna post my quote here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdatb Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Being gay isn't a choice for 99.999% of people. It's not totally biological either. It's tough to explain. lol. so wishy-washy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted June 26, 2015 Author Share Posted June 26, 2015 You disagree with people outside of your religion making their own choices? Also, Separation of church and state. They are two completely different entities that do not and should not rule eachother. People across the board should have been for allowing gay marriage to begin with. For US conservatives, it should have been about limited government. The day government decided that A) it would be the all-encompassing arbiter and validating authority of marriage (which is really a subjective thing between two people), it was doomed to fail. Then, when government decided to take a group of people and exclude them from the same recognition others get (which mirrors separate but equal), it was government once again over-stepping it's bounds. The government also created substantial amounts more work for itself when it comes to immigration by having to investigate if someone else's marriage was valid under US law (DOMA, which was already made illegal, but survived well over a decade) and state laws (which just got struck down). For US conservatives, they should have also listened to any rational sociologist explain to them that if they didn't want to face the kind of backlash and rights movements being waved in their faces, they should have let the issue go. Unfortunately, their own short-sightedness and inability to learn from history is now going to cost them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 What thread was it that I really tried to dive into this. I almost wanna post my quote here. I forget which one, but I think it's fallen off the list of threads by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer4now Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Being gay isn't a choice for 99.999% of people. It's not totally biological either. It's tough to explain. It's basically like a man or women being attracted to the opposite sex.. Also it means more women are available.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocivus Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I'm more about the government not having the power for "giving permission" to people to do as they want as long as it doesn't infringe on someone else's rights. This was never the government's business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster6 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 It's basically like a man or women being attracted to the opposite sex.. Also it means more women are available.. Religious ideology convinces people that homosexuality if allowed will become rampant and destroy the sanctity of marriage thus crumbling society and the economy. It's the reason the WBC has signs saying "god hates fags" and claims it will lead to the destruction of America. As if god actually cares about a certain nation more than another. That's the level of stupid we're dealing with. Not all religious folk take it to that extreme obviously but the tighter you hug that bible the more convinced the person generally seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock Cousteau Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 As a Christian, I strongly disagree with this. If more Christian priests would admit to themselves that they are gay, maybe they wouldn't lead such tortured lives and turn to pedophilia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted June 26, 2015 Author Share Posted June 26, 2015 I'm more about the government not having the power for "giving permission" to people to do as they want as long as it doesn't infringe on someone else's rights. This was never the government's business. Basically. You see Roberts and Alito whining about the courts "legislating". Except for the vast majority of these, if not every single one, they were not legislation. It was voter initiatives, either as an initiative solely or as a voter initiative amendment to their state constitutions. Apparently voter initiatives, or even legislation (as per their argument) is supposed to be all-encompassing to a point where it decides what rights people have. This is fundamentally flawed, as per past rulings on slavery (before the Constitutional amendments), past rulings on Jim Crow laws, past rulings on forbidding marriage between people of two different races, past rulings on laws declaring that people can't even have buttsecks in their own home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalky Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 You can hate peoples choices- being gay. You can't hate them for something they're born with- Down Syndrome. Since according to the bible being Gay is a choice, we can disagree with them. Now a Christian should not hate a gay for being gay, however hate the fact they chose to be gay. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. You are stating an opinion as fact and therefore your comment is rendered moot. Hate is such a strong word. If you really are hating the fact people are gay then you are a straight up intolerant and in contradiction to Christ's message. 7:1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Isn't Felix like 14 years old? You guys should just stop arguing with him. The justification he gave for his opinion seems quite irrational, so we shouldn't believe that providing him with a rational argument is going to change his opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. You are stating an opinion as fact and therefore your comment is rendered moot. Hate is such a strong word. If you really are hating the fact people are gay then you are a straight up intolerant and in contradiction to Christ's message. 7:1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged." Actually... Matthew 7:1-5 Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. You're not too far off, but include the whole thing next time. And there's nothing wrong with being judged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Day Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 People never used to want blacks around either, didn't want their ways and culture "rammed down our throats" In other countries, people will gay-bash and kill homosexuals. Glad to be in Canada. WHY DO YOU CARE SO MUCH? If you love someone, who cares about their gender. I'm gay, thank god I live here and not Russia or Jamaica or some other F*cked up place I'm also Christian, Gays arent trying to ruin the church or the 'family society' they just deserve equal rights just like Hindus and Negroes are getting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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