EternalCanuckFan Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) Brock is still collecting points but does look a bit slow on the ice. Brock still seems to be seeing the ice well though, so I don't imagine he'll take a big hit to his negotiating power. I don't think it'll be a huge $ ask but, of course, I could be very wrong. My guess is that Brock has shown enough since making the jump to the NHL to at least get Bo like money. I would be surprised if Brock got much more than Bo. No idea about term though. Edited March 8, 2019 by EternalCanuckFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, EternalCanuckFan said: Brock is still collecting points but does look a bit slow on the ice. Brock still seems to be seeing the ice well though, so I don't imagine he'll take a big hit to his negotiating power. I don't think it'll be a huge $ ask but, of course, I could be very wrong. My guess is that Brock has shown enough since making the jump to the NHL to at least get Bo like money. I would be surprised if Brock got much more than Bo. No idea about term though. Bridge deal of 2 years around 5/yr. Personally I'd like JB to sign Brock to an 8 year deal at about 6 per. That would be a steal in a couple years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrwipeout Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I say lock Brock (pun intended) for long term, 5-8 years 6 milion. The kid is young and got a natural nose for the net. If he spends the summer working hard on skating and conditioning along with some mobility training, i bet he can combine that wicked shot of his in full speed. It would raise his level of play tremendously. If he nails that id say he will definetly get even more multiple point games and goals playing with EP40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Canucks Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 I bet Boeser is going to have a huge bounce back year next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BananaMash Posted March 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 hour ago, The Great Canucks said: I bet Boeser is going to have a huge bounce back year next season. I don't even know if I'd consider it a bounce back, just natural development. He's having an awfully good season statistically for somebody who is clearly experiencing a sophomore slump. He's also drastically improved his playmaking. People might be a bit down on him sometimes, but I think it's more exciting. 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 5 hours ago, BananaMash said: I don't even know if I'd consider it a bounce back, just natural development. He's having an awfully good season statistically for somebody who is clearly experiencing a sophomore slump. He's also drastically improved his playmaking. People might be a bit down on him sometimes, but I think it's more exciting. Thats a good way to look at it. Still producing even this season really hasn't gone his way. What would his numbers look likeif he wasnt fighting it all season. I think firing brown would do wonders for his development. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 9 hours ago, BananaMash said: I don't even know if I'd consider it a bounce back, just natural development. He's having an awfully good season statistically for somebody who is clearly experiencing a sophomore slump. He's also drastically improved his playmaking. People might be a bit down on him sometimes, but I think it's more exciting. This year he seems to have a nagging wrist injury, he missed a big chunk of summer training recovering from a broken bone in his back, and it is his sophomore season. I would be surprised if he doesn't take a big step forward next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted March 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2019 Watching these highlights from last year from Boeser's goals/shots, there seems to be a trend where he has had the ability to score from angles/parts of the ice with very little time and space. His release was quick. Part of Boeser's amazing shot is not only is it deadly but last year he was bale to release the puck really quickly. I remember Crosby always saying its not about overpowering your shot, its about getting it off quickly that makes goalies quiver on certain snipers. Additionally, his hands were set even before the sot. Boeser on a lot of these goals last year was walking into traffic - so I don't really believe that teams are keying in on him more really makes a difference because the way he scored last year, he was walking into the high traffic areas where defenders were already guarding him closely. This season I'm noticing a lot that he is skating away from traffic, and his hands aren't set before his shot which is why his shot release has been soooo slow this season. He winds up way to long and his predictability has shot through the roof because his hands aren't set and his release is just really slow. I notice too that he bobbles the puck when he receives it. Can't tell if that is because of the lack of strength in his wrist to corral it properly or if he needs to change his stick curve. It could be the mix of his wrist injury, his confidence, and teams keying on him, but the way he is shooting looks so much different then last year. Another part why we are seeing such glaring holes in his game lately is that for whatever reason they are forcing Boeser to be a puck carrier more and more. This isn't his strength, at most the puck should be on his stick for a few seconds, however, the are forcing him to be the one that distributes it is why we are seeing so many uncharacteristic plays from him. I know people disagree highly on this, but I would like to see Boeser play the bumper position on the powerplay more. The reason behind is if you watch some really prolific powerplays such as the Pittsburgh Penguins or Washington Capitals they have guys in the middle position who can get their shot off quickly (Jake Guentzel and TJ Oshie). They make quick touches to bump back with the half wall playmaker or are set up for a quick snap shot. I think ideally you want players with good vision and playmaking abilities on the halfwalls so guys like Goldobin and Pettersson, and someone with a quick shot like Boeser's in the middle. Honestly, this would keep the high forwards more accountable on the PK, would draw more defenders in and allowing the half board players to have a half a second more room to make a pass. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podzilla Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 13 hours ago, BananaMash said: I don't even know if I'd consider it a bounce back, just natural development. He's having an awfully good season statistically for somebody who is clearly experiencing a sophomore slump. He's also drastically improved his playmaking. People might be a bit down on him sometimes, but I think it's more exciting. Not just sophomore slump, but also, back, groin, wrist injuries, no off season training, and that back injury definitely hampered his skating which was already a weakness. I see him putting close to 50 next year once he regains his mobility. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Elias_Pettersson said: Not just sophomore slump, but also, back, groin, wrist injuries, no off season training, and that back injury definitely hampered his skating which was already a weakness. I see him putting close to 50 next year once he regains his mobility. In addition to the classic second year mistake of bulking up too much, which hurt his skating a lot in the first half of the season (along with the injury). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannydog Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 I could be wrong but i think the "sophmore slump" onus should be placed where it belongs. In their first years players are put in positions to succeed. In their second or Sophmore years they have a laundry list of skills asked by coaching and training staff to work on. i think brocks a prime example. First year was leaned on to fire pucks at the net from the half wall 5v5 and 1PP. During the summer months i bet he was asked to work on his legs and core so he wasn't getting pushed off pucks as easy. With his lower back injury, i believe he could really only focus on his upper body. Brock has been working on his 200' game all year. He retrieves pucks ,works the boards, HIs passing and puck control at speed has improved remarkably. And still has that wicked wrister. I believe this 'Sophmore slump" issue is expected/accepted by management who are actually looking at year3 to see what they got. I believe Brock to be lights out next year just by how hes improved his other details of his game this year. Hutty this year is another prime example.Petterson is the anomally, hes improving everything all in game his first year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Brock Boeser rolls into 81st with his goal tonight. 80. Russ Courtnall RW 141 39 72 111 81. Brock Boeser RW 128 56 52 108 82. Sven Baertschi LW 215 57 50 107 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger-Hearted Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 On 3/8/2019 at 9:11 AM, Mackcanuck said: It's not just Petey and Boeser, It is a tough time during a long hard season for a lot of players. I miss the days of 80's and early 90's hockey. Elite players rarely had those kind of slumps. Steve Yzerman had 87 points with the 'Dead Wings' as a rookie. Teemu Selanne had 76 goals in his rookie season in Winnipeg. It seems that whenever the Canucks have a rookie all-star, which is a rarity, he either gets hurt or goes through a terrible scoring swoon. It explains why the club has one of the worst rookie club records in history among the 'Original 21' teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/canucks-fans-irate-after-team-uses-fan-designed-boeser-logo-without-permission Quote Canucks fans irate after team uses fan-designed Boeser logo without permission The Vancouver Canucks' fan community is calling a penalty on the club for using a fan-designed logo without permission from the artist. Harrison Mooney Updated: March 13, 2019 ShareAdjustCommentPrint The Vancouver Canucks’ online fan community is calling a penalty on the club, alleging the team is using a fan-designed logo on a piece of clothing without permission from the artist. A recent Canucks TV video showed the club’s three star forwards — Brock Boeser, Elias Pettersson and Bo Horvat — collaborating with designers on custom New Era hats to sell in the team store. Brock Boeser gets back on his skates during a game on Nov. 2, 2018, at Rogers Arena. DARRYL DYCK / THE CANADIAN PRESS The hat designed by Boeser features the Canucks’ wordmark on the front and his “The Flow” logo on the side — an image designed by freelance illustrator and former Canucks Army blogger Gráinne Downey as a tribute to the all-star winger’s legendary hockey hair. Gráinne Downey’s original T-shirt design. @wholegrainne Downey and fellow Canucks Army contributor Cam Davie released the shirt online, with all proceeds going to charity. The design was a huge hit, raising $12,000 for the Make-A-Wish Foundation of B.C. and Yukon last year, and nearly $8,000 for the Canadian Cancer Society this year. “Neither Gráinne nor I have kept one cent,” Davie said in a recent tweet. Canucks spokesman Ben Brown said the club has reached out to Downey, but declined to comment further. Boeser, who loves the design and the nickname, even bought one of the original shirts himself. And when it came time to design a Canucks hat, he pushed to incorporate “The Flow.” “I think we should do Canucks, and then have that ‘Flow’ thing on the side,” Brock Boeser says during the design process. “We have my nickname, what the fans call me, ‘The Flow,’ that we want to put on the side.” “There it is,” Boeser says in the clip, as a designer pulls up a slightly tweaked version of the image. “Put that right on the side of the hat.” That’s precisely where the image ended up. But neither Downey nor Davie were contacted or offered any compensation or credit for their work prior to the release of the video. In a tweet to the Canucks, Davie said he and Downey “would be honoured” to see the design on a hat, but stressed that Downey owns the design, and expressed disappointment that the team had chosen to use it without her say-so. “I am disappointed that the Canucks and the Canucks Team Store did not make an attempt to contact Gráinne or me before attempting to use (and obviously change) the artwork that Gráinne designed,” Davie told Postmedia News. “I am also extremely grateful for the show of support on social media that we have both received for Gráinne’s exceptional work, and for our cause. “Ultimately, my only goal is to raise as much money as possible for the Canadian Cancer Society through the online sales of our merchandise.” Other fans rushed to Downey and Davie’s support online, criticizing the Canucks for what they feel is the brazen theft of an original design. This wouldn’t be the Canucks’ first time borrowing contributions from the fan community to stock their team store. The club also recently began selling Canucks Army hats, trading on the popularity of the fan blog of the same name. But no proceeds went to the blog, which has been steadily building their brand for over a decade. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Tre Mac said: https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/canucks-fans-irate-after-team-uses-fan-designed-boeser-logo-without-permission Thoughts? I can understand the desire to have the artist credited, but I wouldn't be irate about it. Hopefully the Canucks are smart enough to give him some credit and even some royalties from the sales. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 On March 8, 2019 at 11:33 AM, Alflives said: Bridge deal of 2 years around 5/yr. Personally I'd like JB to sign Brock to an 8 year deal at about 6 per. That would be a steal in a couple years. Nylander is signed for 6.9 Million?????? This kid had 2 seasons with 61 points and 22 goals.... Using this contract Boser is a 70 point guy 30-34 G === 7.2 --- 7.9 million Boser will never never sign bridge deal for 5 million x2... He will not play before he signs that? Vancouver need him.. If anything Vancouver might try a bridge deal 2 yrs 6.7 x 2 ---- I would rather sign him over 6 yrs x 7 million -- Think this deal will go on until September. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, wildcam said: Nylander is signed for 6.9 Million?????? This kid had 2 seasons with 61 points and 22 goals.... Using this contract Boser is a 70 point guy 30-34 G === 7.2 --- 7.9 million Boser will never never sign bridge deal for 5 million x2... He will not play before he signs that? Vancouver need him.. If anything Vancouver might try a bridge deal 2 yrs 6.7 x 2 ---- I would rather sign him over 6 yrs x 7 million -- Think this deal will go on until September. I understand the comparable contracts, but Nylander is grossly overpaid. That's like saying that Loui Errikson gets 6 million, so Brock should get 50 million. I do think we need to accept comparables, but they are not the only method to use. I agree with you that if we get Brock for 7 mil x 8 years that would be a fair deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Wow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podzilla Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Pears said: Wow Yup, he’s going to get paid decently... Not too many guys in the league can put the puck in the net like him. I think him, his agent and management know a lot of his less than stellar play this season has been because of injuries and no off season training. Also too much size added to his upper body since he couldn’t work his lower half. I’ve experienced the same when I played and it affects almost every part of your game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanless Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 7 hours ago, Alflives said: I understand the comparable contracts, but Nylander is grossly overpaid. That's like saying that Loui Errikson gets 6 million, so Brock should get 50 million. I do think we need to accept comparables, but they are not the only method to use. I agree with you that if we get Brock for 7 mil x 8 years that would be a fair deal. 7/ year for 4 years You heard it here first 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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