Junkyard Dog Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, MrCanuck94 said: It's a bridge deal for Point and we won't bridge Petey or Hughes. We'd be lucky if we get Petey for anything under 10 mill. Petey might get good money but I don't expect anything crazy. Could sign a bridge deal with Covid/flat cap Hughes is in Boeser's boat. He can't be signed to an offer-sheeted or go to arbitration. He will for sure get a bridge deal akin to Boeser's where the qualifying offer will be significant(7.5M or up). Overall we could see a lot of bridge deals on these highly touted RFAs because of the flat cap expected for a few years with those bridge deals expiring when the cap is expected to go back up in the next 3-4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 2 hours ago, MrCanuck94 said: It's a bridge deal for Point and we won't bridge Petey or Hughes. We'd be lucky if we get Petey for anything under 10 mill. Point has shown more than Pettersson has. Point has shown he deserved 10m with his great two way play and over 50% in the face-off circle. Petterson has had back to back seasons where his production has fallen off a cliff near the end of the season. Pettersson is nowhere near a 10m dollar player. People are completely over-valuing our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, bree2 said: Minni is wanting a centre and that is not Boeser, this is Vancouver media hyping this trade, Benning has already said numerous times he is not trading Boeser, if they want a centre they can go after Sutter or Gaudette lol As far as I know, Russo, who has been covering the Wild forever has never mentioned a Dumba for Boeser rumor. LeBrun yesterday on TSN 1040 says the Wild are looking for a top-6 C in return for Dumba and that was even before they traded Staal. (Note Guerin says Johansson will play C although he has mostly played wing in his career.) LeBrun also reminded everyone that the Wild do not have to do anything. They can well keep him till the TDL or even trade him next summer. He confirms that the Wild have had internal discussions to protect 4Ds for expansion. LeBrun has not heard Vancouver connected to Dumba. He hears that Vancouver is focused on clearing cap space so that they can address Markstrom, Toffoli and Tanev. Edited September 17, 2020 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Junkyard Dog said: Petey might get good money but I don't expect anything crazy. Could sign a bridge deal with Covid/flat cap Hughes is in Boeser's boat. He can't be signed to an offer-sheeted or go to arbitration. He will for sure get a bridge deal akin to Boeser's where the qualifying offer will be significant(7.5M or up). Overall we could see a lot of bridge deals on these highly touted RFAs because of the flat cap expected for a few years with those bridge deals expiring when the cap is expected to go back up in the next 3-4 years. They’ve introduced a limit on qualifying offers for new contracts in the recently approved CBA. Qualifying offers can now no longer be more than 120% of the AAV. A Boeser contract structure is possible but the qualifying offer will be 7.05M and not 7.5M. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 12 hours ago, Robert Long said: I guess its a bit of an upgrade, which is fine. They must not be getting much in the way of 2C offers for Dumba. I wonder what the WPG talks are centred around.. Lowry and a prospect maybe? Not necessarily connected to Dumba but Winnipeg apparently could be willing to part with Ehlers or Laine for defensive help. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, mll said: Not necessarily connected to Dumba but Winnipeg apparently could be willing to part with Ehlers or Laine for defensive help. . Laine.... so Dumba + __________? All this Brock trade stuff s just TSN 1040 driven cow patties. I just don't see Benning trading out of his top 6 for a position he can get asset free in Barrie, if thats the skill set he's looking to add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, peaches5 said: Point 6.7 pre-covid. Pettersson is not getting 10m. Well Eichel 10 million and Skinner 9 million, Skinner is a ridiculous signing at 9 million.. I predict between 9.5 and 10 million for Pettersson,,,,We do not want a offer sheet for either player, Pettersson or Hughes... Hope Benning and group can do a bridge deal during this covid cap freeze say 2 years at reduced amount like Boeser? Pettersson 7.6 X 2 yrs --- Hughes 6.7 X 2 yrs ----Covid cap freeze deal by June 2021... See Chabot D man for Ottawa comparison for Hughes ---- signed for 8 million.. Going to be a interesting 3 weeks with draft and free agency....So exciting lots of trades and UFA and RFA moving before October 11th... NHL draft Oct 6 - 7th -- Free agency October 9th... Exciting times.... Go Canucks Go!!!!!! Edited September 17, 2020 by wildcam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, Robert Long said: Laine.... so Dumba + __________? All this Brock trade stuff s just TSN 1040 driven cow patties. I just don't see Benning trading out of his top 6 for a position he can get asset free in Barrie, if thats the skill set he's looking to add. Not sure who started first but Sportsnet 650 with Satiar Shah and Andrew Walker were talking of how Dumba is the Canucks' top trade target. Wonder what the Wild are going to do with all their wingers. They have only 2 natural centres that have NHL experience - Eriksson Ek and Rask. Rask had trouble getting in the lineup but apparently will be getting more ice time. He is a very smart player but lacks footspeed which is troublesome. Sturm will probably make the team as C4, was signed as NCAA free agent. He has 1 pro-year in the AHL but is 25. Rask probably the insurance if he can't adjust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Just now, mll said: Not sure who started first but Sportsnet 650 with Satiar Shah and Andrew Walker were talking of how Dumba is the Canucks' top trade target. Wonder what the Wild are going to do with all their wingers. They have only 2 natural centres that have NHL experience - Eriksson Ek and Rask. Rask had trouble getting in the lineup but apparently will be getting more ice time. He is a very smart player but lacks footspeed which is troublesome. Sturm will probably make the team as C4, was signed as NCAA free agent. He has 1 pro-year in the AHL but is 25. Rask probably the insurance if he can't adjust. and then LeBrun came out and said its Winniipeg I wouldn't put it past Benning and Weisbrod to throw out some smoke tho and use the media. Someone posted yesterday about how the buzz was all about a Barrie trade and then boom, Miller for a 1st. Brocks a keeper. I could see something in a couple of years maybe depending on the cap situation (e.g., Rathbone becomes a stud) but right now Jim doesn't blow up the top 6 hie's been trying to build for 5 years. There has to be another Minni trade in the works. Those wingers are a good part of many deals. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, Robert Long said: and then LeBrun came out and said its Winniipeg I wouldn't put it past Benning and Weisbrod to throw out some smoke tho and use the media. Someone posted yesterday about how the buzz was all about a Barrie trade and then boom, Miller for a 1st. Brocks a keeper. I could see something in a couple of years maybe depending on the cap situation (e.g., Rathbone becomes a stud) but right now Jim doesn't blow up the top 6 hie's been trying to build for 5 years. There has to be another Minni trade in the works. Those wingers are a good part of many deals. Boeser could end up in Minnesota once his time is up in Vancouver. I just don't think it's now. Canucks had less 5v5 scoring than the Wild. Removing Boeser is going to hurt production. Not sure teams can win in the playoffs on special teams alone. The deeper teams go the more the whistle is put away. They are not very good trade partners at this point. Guerin is looking to give bigger roles and a bigger voice in the room to his young players. He's in some ways removing the glass ceiling. They had several veterans of a 1'000 games and top players on their teams. Demoting a vet and putting in a young player that is not quite ready for the role is not going to go down well with the other veterans, because that vet is still the better player. Boudreau admitted that some of their vets were not happy because of their decrease in ice time. Guerin after trading Zucker said he is looking to make it easier for young players to get bigger roles and more opportunities. Those young players are still developing so it's not like it's clear as day that they should play ahead of a vet. Only Fiala earned that right as he's by far their best offensive player but they need to develop the others as well. Staal is a big voice in the room and on the ice and it's now up to someone else to fill that void and it should be someone that will be there long term. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gurn Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, wildcam said: We do not want a offer sheet for either player, Pettersson or Hughes... Hughes cannot receive an offer sheet. Ehf1JcZXsAAfB3G.webp Ehf1JcZXsAAfB3G.webp Edited September 17, 2020 by gurn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Nothing there, exactly what one would expect to hear from a signed player It will be interesting to see how all the shuffling plays out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 its pretty clear TSN 1040 and its twitter army drive most of the negativity in this market, its their bread and butter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, wildcam said: Well Eichel 10 million and Skinner 9 million, Skinner is a ridiculous signing at 9 million.. I predict between 9.5 and 10 million for Pettersson,,,,We do not want a offer sheet for either player, Pettersson or Hughes... Hope Benning and group can do a bridge deal during this covid cap freeze say 2 years at reduced amount like Boeser? Pettersson 7.6 X 2 yrs --- Hughes 6.7 X 2 yrs ----Covid cap freeze deal by June 2021... See Chabot D man for Ottawa comparison for Hughes ---- signed for 8 million.. Going to be a interesting 3 weeks with draft and free agency....So exciting lots of trades and UFA and RFA moving before October 11th... NHL draft Oct 6 - 7th -- Free agency October 9th... Exciting times.... Go Canucks Go!!!!!! Eichel is a great example as to why you don't give Pettersson 10m. He was given 8x10m when he hadn't earned it yet and still has not earned 10m a season 2 years into it. Both Ottawa and Buffalo are terrible teams and had a ton of cap space when their young RFA's needed to be signed. The Canucks aren't terrible and don't have cap space to waste. I can throw Draisatl and Point right back at you and be like 2 great young centres and they're making between 6.7 and 8.5, pre-covid times. as for Hughes you have Theodore making 5.2m in Vegas and yes Chabot but Chabot is really the outlier here and I think, unless Hughes has some insane season next year, he will come in somewhere around 6m. Edited September 17, 2020 by peaches5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruilin96 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Don't trade Boeser. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 2 hours ago, peaches5 said: Eichel is a great example as to why you don't give Pettersson 10m. He was given 8x10m when he hadn't earned it yet and still has not earned 10m a season 2 years into it. Both Ottawa and Buffalo are terrible teams and had a ton of cap space when their young RFA's needed to be signed. The Canucks aren't terrible and don't have cap space to waste. I can throw Draisatl and Point right back at you and be like 2 great young centres and they're making between 6.7 and 8.5, pre-covid times. as for Hughes you have Theodore making 5.2m in Vegas and yes Chabot but Chabot is really the outlier here and I think, unless Hughes has some insane season next year, he will come in somewhere around 6m. He is 12th in the league in scoring measured in pts per game. Eichel should have been in the Hart discussion. He has close to no supporting staff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komodo0921 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 2 hours ago, ruilin96 said: Don't trade Boeser. He's not getting traded. He's ingrained in this community and has publicly stated his commitment to the Northwest and I have to believe he's sincere. Nothing's led me to believe he's a liar. JB's also stated his commitment to Boeser's future here. JB would look pretty foolish to make that statement and then trade him. I have to believe he's also sincere and has no intentions in moving Boeser. Brock is going to be here for a long time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Boeser wants to be a Canuck, and we should do everything we can to keep him here. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bree2 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 17 hours ago, wildcam said: You don't realize we can't keep everyone? 2021 season Petterson 10 million --- Hughes 8 million...Boeser next contract set at 7.5 Taffoli Is a UFA????? You could trade his right 4th rounder.. Be prepared someone has to go?? Don't be shocked if its Boeser.... Do you honestly think Jim Benning can share his truth? He has to stop rumours about Boeser in June...Only players that should not be trade are Pettersson and Hughes maybe Horvat, Miller,??? If trading a player makes your team better you have to?? Podkolzin will be ready to sign with Vancouver after this KHL season is over... SO if some team has a good offer and Boeser make this trade happen you must listen... The team strength is wingers.. Team weakness Defence.... Team needs a # 2 D man to play with Hughes under 27.....Team has very average defence.. you have to remember that the cap is not going up for 2 years , i doubt players will get huge raises, i believe when Benning says he is not going to trade Boeser, he has always been honest when he does his pressers, i think more likely other players like Jake, Gaudette or Sutter along with maybe Leivo could be traded, our defense was fine in the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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