Baer. Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Why even vote? Isn't it obvious what the consensus is? Obviously everybody wants Bieksa and Higgins gone. Anybody who voted Sbisa, he's Benning's little baby boy he's gonna defend all year. What a bad trade that was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visp Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I wish people would stop tossing Weber aside without remembering he was the Canucks defensive TOP GOAL SCORER for last season (and for a cheap contract and with less games played than most others). Who would replace those goals out of the current group? Weber needs to be here, at minimum as a 7th d-man and as a PP specialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 i love both bieksa and higgins....whatever management decides is good enough for me...i leave hockey decisions to real hockey people....not opinionated fans.... Best post so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Why even vote? Isn't it obvious what the consensus is? Obviously everybody wants Bieksa and Higgins gone. Anybody who voted Sbisa, he's Benning's little baby boy he's gonna defend all year. What a bad trade that was. He's also on a reasonable cap hit, without an NTC. (I say reasonable because D-men are going to get insane money this off season). He can always be moved at the deadline if he doesn't progress as a defenseman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 i love both bieksa and higgins....whatever management decides is good enough for me...i leave hockey decisions to real hockey people....not opinionated fans.... Joe, I'm starting to take your barbs personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 *turns Scottish accent on* Who in their right little freakish minds would do this?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 You should have set up the voting the other way. No one on this team should be considered untouchable. The last I would want to see leave are the twins, Horvat and Tanev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelownaCanucksFan Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Burrows, Higgins, Hanson and Bieksa (cmon guys this isn't 2010 anymore, time to get some assets for our aging pieces) Time to Bring some youth in and develop them, can still be competitive with some youth sprinkled throughout the lineup. Add: Franson and Santorrelli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 i love both bieksa and higgins....whatever management decides is good enough for me...i leave hockey decisions to real hockey people....not opinionated fans.... Makes me wonder why you ever come around here, just to complain about fans with opinions. At least skip over the more opinionated threads because we already know your feelings on it. "Management knows all, fans know nothing rabble rabble rabble". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Voted Sbisa, Bieksa, Higgins (wouldn't mind if we kept him since he's not all that expensive but we do have young replacements), Vey/ Weber/ Stanton (if we don't re-sign them, might as well trade their rights for another prospect or something) Could be expendable if we suck next season: Vrbata, Burr, Hammer (hope for an NHL-ready prospect + pick for each star vet) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soshified Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 For me, well, his $1.9m cap hit is admittedly sweet - but for a guy who is a quality 2C or at least an above average 3C. Thing of it is, again from my view anyway, he'll be starting the season as an underwhelming 27 year old who is holding up a key offensive spot and (if he were slotted down into the bottom 9 instead) doesn't appear to be a guy who can provide above average 3C coverage. And $1.9m is too much to pay for a 27 year old who is probably pretty close to what he'll ever become and who doesn't really fit. Honestly, i rather keep a 27 year old making 1.9 million for the next two years than keep 30+ year olds making north of 2 million. Bonino can play both sides of the ice (although he's not consistent on the offensive side). But as a 3rd line C, he's still very valuable to the team... Until our prospects can transition to the NHL. I don't think any prospects are ready to take over Bonino's service yet. We don't have C's that are all Horvat. Because if you play Centre in the NHL, you should be able to win a faceoff. Also, he has no speed and is not suited for a scoring role, which for some reason he is put in a position in on this team. He also isnt physical enough for the 3rd or 4th lines. He has a good cap hit, but I would rather see a prospect take his place. I would say get rid of Sbisa, but my guess is that even if we put him on waivers, nobody would claim this guy. Get rid of Weber as well, he is another waiver wire guy preventing us from bringing up a young defencemen. Which prospect do we have that can take over Bonino's spot and play better at it this upcomming season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeburn Posted June 30, 2015 Author Share Posted June 30, 2015 Honestly, i rather keep a 27 year old making 1.9 million for the next two years than keep 30+ year olds making north of 2 million. Bonino can play both sides of the ice (although he's not consistent on the offensive side). But as a 3rd line C, he's still very valuable to the team... Until our prospects can transition to the NHL. I don't think any prospects are ready to take over Bonino's service yet. We don't have C's that are all Horvat. Which prospect do we have that can take over Bonino's spot and play better at it this upcomming season? I hear ya, and entirely agree. That's why even though Burrows and Bieksa are on the top of my fav list, I still gotta suck it up that their departure would open up both roster and cap space. As for Bonino, same applies. Nuttin' against the guy either, it's just that even for just $1.9m he's a gap filler in the top 6 and easily replaceable for what he brings to the bottom 6. So, for a team that needs roster space to fit in, say, some off-season UFA acquired blood, he'd make my list to be expendable. I guess that's where I'm at really - really like a slew of the guys on the roster, but it's as if the team now has 1 first line and 3 lines of gap fillers. Sure, Bonino, Higgins, Burrows, etc. can all put up marginal top 6 numbers if given enough ice time and opportunity, but none of them are likely to overwhelm - and if the Canucks are ever gonna return to truly competitive form, they need more overwhelming guys than merely serviceable ones. In my opinion, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPatrick33 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Honestly, i rather keep a 27 year old making 1.9 million for the next two years than keep 30+ year olds making north of 2 million. Bonino can play both sides of the ice (although he's not consistent on the offensive side). But as a 3rd line C, he's still very valuable to the team... Until our prospects can transition to the NHL. I don't think any prospects are ready to take over Bonino's service yet. We don't have C's that are all Horvat. Which prospect do we have that can take over Bonino's spot and play better at it this upcomming season? Horvat should be ready to take the 2C spot from Bonino, he can win draws, skate and provide some offensive punch. That leaves 3c and 4c. The third line can be taken by B Rich, if he is resigned, and the 4th can go to any of the Utica guys, like grenier, gaunce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Higgins Bonino Kassian Bieksa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soshified Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I hear ya, and entirely agree. That's why even though Burrows and Bieksa are on the top of my fav list, I still gotta suck it up that their departure would open up both roster and cap space. As for Bonino, same applies. Nuttin' against the guy either, it's just that even for just $1.9m he's a gap filler in the top 6 and easily replaceable for what he brings to the bottom 6. So, for a team that needs roster space to fit in, say, some off-season UFA acquired blood, he'd make my list to be expendable. I guess that's where I'm at really - really like a slew of the guys on the roster, but it's as if the team now has 1 first line and 3 lines of gap fillers. Sure, Bonino, Higgins, Burrows, etc. can all put up marginal top 6 numbers if given enough ice time and opportunity, but none of them are likely to overwhelm - and if the Canucks are ever gonna return to truly competitive form, they need more overwhelming guys than merely serviceable ones. In my opinion, anyway. Yeah i love Burrows and Bieksa. They bleed blue and green and i can never imagine them in another jersey. But it's time to move on. I always felt Bonino as a gap until our prospects are ready. That's why i think he's too valuable to the team; cheap contract, servable center that can play both sides of the ice, still only 27. And i agree with the bolded. IMO, we won't be a cup contending team until we have players that can replace the Sedins as our best players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan44 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Sedin - Sedin - Burrows Baertschi - Horvat - Vrbata Higgins - Bonino - kassian Dorsett - Cassels - Virtanen/kenins Edler Tanev Hamhuis Clendening Sbisa Corrado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeburn Posted June 30, 2015 Author Share Posted June 30, 2015 Sedin - Sedin - Burrows Baertschi - Horvat - Vrbata Higgins - Bonino - kassian Dorsett - Cassels - Virtanen/kenins Edler Tanev Hamhuis Clendening Sbisa Corrado Good effort given the names available. But ugh to be a contender. It's really just same old with sophomore Horvat and small Baer taking a more prominent offensive role ,while not particularly defensively gifted Bonino and Kassian try to pull off some traditional shut-down duty, and a couple prospects/rookies are plugged in for 4th line minutes. Gawd I want to see some fresh UFA blood into this mix! ps: really shocking that someone would actually have voted Horvat as a guy to move, musta been a mouse issue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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