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Jim Benning on TSN 1040 (June 30 8:30am)


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People have got to realize that Benning & Co are not going to trade away most of the veteran core this year. I very much doubt that Hamhuis will be traded at all. As far as other vets like Higgins, Burrows and Hansen are concerned - maybe one of them this year. Bieksa will be gone. Kassian has this year to show that he has learned how to be a consistent player, or he's gone. If they just cleaned the cupboards this year, who is going to be the structure of a team stocked by young, mostly unproven players? In that scenario, the team is worried that attendance would fall dramatically, along with wins. And they are right!

So. take a deep breath and be OK with this pace that Benning/Linden have set to restructure this team. There should be upwards of 4 spots on the roster up for grabs come October! And that's enough!

I agree that there will not be as much turnover as maybe some would like, however at this point I almost think you are better off holding on to those vets until the TDL where they may hold more value. If the team is not in playoff position vets like Vrbata, Higgins, Hansen, Burrows, Bieksa could be worth a decent haul. We have seen teams overpay for players in the past at the TDL, no reason to believe that group could not provide a couple of first round picks from contending teams.

Of course the delicate balance is to make sure holding onto the vets, does not put our younger assets at risk of being claimed off waivers.

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The people who think Benning could have got more for Lack are out to lunch.

Two scenarios: (1) the league doesn't pay enough attention to west coast teams and thus under-valued Lack, (2) Lack is over-valued by the Canucks. Either of those two scenarios will end in the some result - the Canucks not getting much for Lack.

Do you really think Benning is so dense that he wouldn't have told other teams what Carolina's offer was and asked them to beat it? Do you really think that other teams out there wanted Lack, but Benning wasn't answering phone calls because he was partying in South Beach?

If the guy is one thing, he's a worker. He works ???? hard, and although some of his moves are worthy of debate, its pretty unfounded to argue that this guy isn't trying to do what is best for the franchise according to his vision. You may think his vision is wrong, but you're not part of the hockey world. Your opinion is less informed. You're like a patient telling a doctor how to do his job because of what you read on WebMD.

I agree with this completely, and lets not forget about scenario #3- there was a bumper crop of goaltenders available through trade and free agency that further diminished Lack's value. People started getting wood after the Lehner deal but it proved to be more of a case of nepotism than true player value.

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I agree with this completely, and lets not forget about scenario #3- there was a bumper crop of goaltenders available through trade and free agency that further diminished Lack's value. People started getting wood after the Lehner deal but it proved to be more of a case of nepotism than true player value.

Good point and I agree. Especially if teams believe that Lack is a backup and not a 1b, they must have felt there were tons of other ways to address their needs.

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The people who think Benning could have got more for Lack are out to lunch.

Two scenarios: (1) the league doesn't pay enough attention to west coast teams and thus under-valued Lack, (2) Lack is over-valued by the Canucks. Either of those two scenarios will end in the some result - the Canucks not getting much for Lack.

Do you really think Benning is so dense that he wouldn't have told other teams what Carolina's offer was and asked them to beat it? Do you really think that other teams out there wanted Lack, but Benning wasn't answering phone calls because he was partying in South Beach?

If the guy is one thing, he's a worker. He works ???? hard, and although some of his moves are worthy of debate, its pretty unfounded to argue that this guy isn't trying to do what is best for the franchise according to his vision. You may think his vision is wrong, but you're not part of the hockey world. Your opinion is less informed. You're like a patient telling a doctor how to do his job because of what you read on WebMD.

The more info that comes out the more I agree with this. Benning made a good point. Even the team that took him acquired him as a backup. That's not to say he isn't starter quality , but the league doesn't seem to trust he is yet

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wow...

all I have to say, Benning has a lot of work to do. Team's far from contention. Sure they can be a good team, but far cry from being able to "take" on Anahiem or Chicago or L.A. Let alone Calgary which beat us without their best player.

You're right that the team is far from contention, but this is also a team that two seasons ago was one of the worst in the NHL.

Of course Benning has a lot of work to do, he inherited a job that was going to require a lot of work.

Yes, Calgary beat us. But, how many years did it take for them to get to the point where they could actually be considered a threat? It didn't happen overnight for Calgary either.

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wow...

all I have to say, Benning has a lot of work to do. Team's far from contention. Sure they can be a good team, but far cry from being able to "take" on Anahiem or Chicago or L.A. Let alone Calgary which beat us without their best player.

Ya and how long did Calgary suck before they got to this point ? And how did they build their team? That's right , through the draft. Yeah they made a big move this year but they also have allot of young guys on entry level contracts filling huge roles. Our top guys are all on veteran contracts for the most part.

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You're right that the team is far from contention, but this is also a team that two seasons ago was one of the worst in the NHL.

Of course Benning has a lot of work to do, he inherited a job that was going to require a lot of work.

Yes, Calgary beat us. But, how many years did it take for them to get to the point where they could actually be considered a threat? It didn't happen overnight for Calgary either.

Our posts were almost indenticle. Lol

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Wonder if gms are trolling the canucks due to thier managerial inexperience. Sounds like they thought they had a couple of deals in place but other teams backed out at the last second. You only got so much time during draft day to trade so when you are wasting time with GMs that have no interest in making hockey trades with you that can certainly gimp the gameplan.

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Wonder if gms are trolling the canucks due to thier managerial inexperience. Sounds like they thought they had a couple of deals in place but other teams backed out at the last second. You only got so much time during draft day to trade so when you are wasting time with GMs that have no interest in making hockey trades with you that can certainly gimp the gameplan.

Lol. What leads you to believe the other teams backed out ? Seems more logical to me they could have possibly tried to take advantage of JB with jiuce and he made the statement that's not going to happen. As far as the lack trade , he waited as long as he could. If that's all that was offered he had the choice of giving up a huge chunk of this years draft and keep a bad situation in Vancouver or take what was offered , trust his draft choices and move forward. He didn't have allot of options. Ya he could have hung onto lack , but who is to say his value wouldn't go down next year. He probably didn't want to take that chance. And if he didn't make the trade everyone would be screaming he didn't do anything. Especially if the offers got worse over next year. Lack hasn't exactly proven he's guna be constant.

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I agree that is a nice change. Gillis always sounded like he was p**ssed off when answering questions and was neither open nor particularly honest.

What I found interesting was JB's response to the question "What will it take to make the playoffs this year." JB sounded pretty realistic. The first thing he said was the other teams in the Division had all gotten better (which is true) and that they were "hoping" to be in contention for a playoff spot. This means that he has recognized that there is a good chance they will miss the playoffs and is not trying to oversell the team.

I also like that he reiterated that they will not trade players who will be in the future core -- mentioning Horvat, Virtanen, and McCann by name.

I was worried that the Canucks might sacrifice the future to just sneak into the playoffs this year. But it sounds like that will not happen.

The next step would be to admit that this is a rebuilding year and be prepared to trade away veteran assets at the deadline to pick up draft picks. Realistically, the Canucks could go into the 2016 draft with a very high pick for their own (low) finish and low first round picks obtained in trade for Vrbata and Hammer. And they should be able to get second round picks for Bieksa and maybe Higgins or Burrows (both of whom will still have another year on their contracts).

As 2016 is supposed to be another very deep draft, it could be a monster draft for the Canucks. I could see the Canucks back in the playoffs in 2016-17 as some of guys in the system now develop more and being Cup contenders maybe a year or two after that.

Been preaching this for a while, I sure hope it happens, i do think we are more than 5 yrs from being a contender though

Our best prospect is Horvat in 5 yrs

Horvat -24

Tanev-29

Edler 34

Cassels -24

Mcann -23

Virtanen -23

Demko -23

Shink-25

Beartschi-27

Kass-29

Boesser- 23

Gaunce -25

Who knows if Jensen, Grenier, vey, Hutton, Corrado, Clendening, Subban and tryamkin will amount to but we have great depth, just lacking that franchise 1D and maybe that 1C.

In 5 yrs that core is still 3 yrs from it's prime. We do have to have a draft where we unload vets for picks otherwise we will spread out the rebuild over too long a time.

We still need a 1D

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Awesome ! I love the direction Benning is taking.

He is refusing to trade our young studs for for guys like Lucic. This I believe is that way to go. Draft and develop.

I appreciate the fact that he isn't delusional and wants to go crazy w. Free agency, we need spots for our young guys to mature w. The team.

Keep it up Benning

Ps love the boessser pick ! Legit 1 shot game breaker ala brett hull or Brendan Shannahan

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So, according to Benning, they had no deal with San Jose for Bieksa, they were not even close to a deal with San Jose, and that they had not asked Kevin to waive his no trade. If Benning is telling the truth, this done deal between Vancouver and San Jose that hit a snag must have all been made up by the media. So lets see; either Benning is lying, or some reporter started speculating because he saw Benning and Wilson talking at the draft. Going with their past history, there can only be one conclusion. There is an eastern media bias and a certain troll amongst them with a cousin who has an axe to grind with the Canucks.

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wow...

all I have to say, Benning has a lot of work to do. Team's far from contention. Sure they can be a good team, but far cry from being able to "take" on Anahiem or Chicago or L.A. Let alone Calgary which beat us without their best player.

Thats for sure...he has to build up a new core and direct the transition period...When he took the job,he must have known it wouldn't be a quick fix...aging core,NTC's,disgruntled star player that will only be traded to one team etc..It was a mess.

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i like that the young players have to earn their way onto this team...when they can, more core will be moved....they plan to stay as competitive as they can until those players are ready...moving out core players and going with all youth, that isn't ready, makes zero sense to me...good plan benning.

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I really feel sorry for management. This all comes down to ownership not agreeing to a full rebuild. These guys are stuck literally in hockey purgatory (can't lose but won't be good enough to win it all). They don't have the leverage to do anything

no it has been ONE complete season. Canucks have great prospects coming up and JB is continuing to try and draft well and transition new players into the line up. In 3-4 years THEN maybe you can complain about mediocrity, but then again 'fans' probably say the same thing about DET which makes no sense.

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