mephnick Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Great post. I swear someone was chopping onions as you talked about the 2009 Burrows shorthanded goal. It's weird how a shorthanded goal in a meaningless game against Carolina is one of the most vivid and emotional Canucks memories I have. I wasn't even going to bother watching that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Just to echo the sentiment of many posters about this being a "competitive rebuild", I'm in agreement. What a lot of people, and sadly most do not realize, is it doesn't matter if you draft in the top 10 for 5 years in a row, if you don't have the management and player development pipeline in place to take advantage of those draft picks, nothing will come of them anyway. Look at what Edmonton has done in a single off season thus far with Chiarelli at the helm, they suddenly look quite a bit more competitive, McDavid or no McDavid. It doesn't matter where you draft in the 1st round, it's what you do in rounds 2, 3, 4, and 5 that really matter the most. Diligent drafting, being able to formulate a deft opinion in spite of ISS rankings, and having the ability to develop those late round draft picks while the NHL club remains competitive is the key to sustained, long term success. Look at the front office changes made in this past week alone, and even further to last off season: President - Trevor Linden. A warrior who had an amazing NHL career, knows what it takes to compete, understands the heartache of failure and how to learn from that failure. GM - Jim Benning. A scout at heart, several years of experience and knows how to identify intangibles and pick up on things other people miss. Drafting isn't an exact science, but his picks that have taken off, really took off. AGM - Laurence Gilman, good guy, knows his stuff but largely the chief architect that has handcuffed Benning from rapidly moving this retool forward, had to go. AGM - Lorne Henning, another good guy, did a lot to architect Utica into existence but still part of the old guard and had to go. Head Trainer - Mike Burnstein. I honestly don't know much about him despite his presence within the organization for the past 20 years. The consistency of injuries occurring to roster players, as well as recurrence of injuries speaks for itself. The rise and fall of teams in the NHL is all cyclical. It's what you do around the team, and everything else away from the ice that helps to minimize the time spent in the fall cycle and spend more time in the rise cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campbellconferencechamps Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Probably means that you're also a youngster... I remember the good ol' Smythe when we were getting pounded by the Flames every time the Canucks made it into the playoffs in the ugly ol' days before Pat Quinn. It was a guaranteed first round exit for the Canucks when they matched up against Edmonton or the Flames...or the Kings. Hell, even in 89-90, the Jets got into the playoffs. We were a perennial basement team. God, how we prayed for an Original JETS matchup...when they were sucking like we were. Guys patrolling the ice like Garth Butcher, Dan Quinn, Jim Sandlak, Jim Benning, Tony Tanti, Dave Capuano and Petri Skriko...Anybody remember Vladimir Krutov? He was the fabled third part of the KLM line but never realized his full potential because he seemed to be more interested in donuts than in hockey. You think Big Bad Avalanche period was a dark time? Late 80s, early 90s (prior to 94) was a DARK time. We had Igor Larionov (pre-Red Wings Larionov) and somehow got f*d over big time by some contractual crap a couple years later. So...those of us who have suffered through that can swallow this and get through. Pull up yer britches, young'un, it's gonna be a bumpy ride. Krutov. Haha' I remember it was "hotdogs". A lot of hotdogs. Not "milk hotdogs" though. Canucks will rise again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaythedragon Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Oh My God! Finally someone gets it!! Thank you so much for this post OP!! 95% of CDC NEDS TO READ THIS! Get it into their thick heads that Benning and Trevor know what they are doing. Forever A Canuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdatb Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 The herd mentality and false optimism in here is alarming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dKs89 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 And yet that "rebuild" the canucks did getting younger with Kesler/Burrows did what? One Stanley Cup Final, mediocrity all other seasons. This middle of the pack not competing and not getting high draft picks is NOT how you build a team, unless you get extremely lucky. This team needs to COMMIT to a rebuild to get anywhere significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Yes it's apparent now that ownership is a roadblock between the Canucks and an actual rebuild. Somebody else (perhaps Trevor or Benning?) has probably run past the Aquilinis the idea that if they rip the team apart to an extent, the money they'd save on the deadweight contracts that go off the books should more than equal the revenue from a handful of playoff home games they'd miss out on over a couple of years. What's wrong with that concept? The Canucks are a cap-ceiling team that are very questionable for even making the postseason and as they've shown over the last few years when they do get in, they are an easy out. I'm just one guy, but if I were in charge I'd roll the dice with a lot of young players. If they manage to get you some playoff games then that's great. If they blow it, well then it's not such a big loss because a majority of the players are making at or close to minimum wage and then ownership can look forward to some more top prospects to help the team in the future. The problem with your idea is that it looks eerily like the Oilers model of success. You also run the risk of losing more of your fanbase. By the looks of it, with no more "sell outs" and no more big demand for Canuck tickets, they may run the risk of losing more money in filling the arena. The other thing is that we do not want our young players to get used of losing on a regular basis as it would hinder their development and they would not have any players to mentor them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Weasel Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Too much optimism and less focus on the apparent uncertainty... The fact of the matter is we won't be competitive in the playoffs for at least 4-5 years.. We should have started rebuilding right after the Stanley cup finals fiasco.. The shorten season was a perfect opportunity Frack being a Canucks fan is frustrating.. In 4-5 years, the McDynasty will be revving up in Edmonton. We are screwed either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Weasel Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Yes it's apparent now that ownership is a roadblock between the Canucks and an actual rebuild. Somebody else (perhaps Trevor or Benning?) has probably run past the Aquilinis the idea that if they rip the team apart to an extent, the money they'd save on the deadweight contracts that go off the books should more than equal the revenue from a handful of playoff home games they'd miss out on over a couple of years. What's wrong with that concept? The Canucks are a cap-ceiling team that are very questionable for even making the postseason and as they've shown over the last few years when they do get in, they are an easy out. I'm just one guy, but if I were in charge I'd roll the dice with a lot of young players. If they manage to get you some playoff games then that's great. If they blow it, well then it's not such a big loss because a majority of the players are making at or close to minimum wage and then ownership can look forward to some more top prospects to help the team in the future. That still doesn't explain that horrendous contract extension for Luca Sbisa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 The problem with your idea is that it looks eerily like the Oilers model of success. You also run the risk of losing more of your fanbase. By the looks of it, with no more "sell outs" and no more big demand for Canuck tickets, they may run the risk of losing more money in filling the arena. The other thing is that we do not want our young players to get used of losing on a regular basis as it would hinder their development and they would not have any players to mentor them. Yes maybe, but the thing is that they are already losing money due to the empty seats and it's quite possibly going to get worse anyway. There just isn't much to get excited about with this team anymore. It's slowly getting chipped away but this Canucks team is still largely composed of the old core which has proven it cant get anything done in the playoffs. One close call since the beginning of the "Gillis era", 4 years ago, and nothing even remotely close since. As for your other points, well the Oilers were run for far to long by that monkey Kevin Lowe. They very well could've been a lot better a lot sooner if it weren't for him. I know it's a special case but a number of the young Chicago Blackhawk players weren't raised in any so-called "winning environment". Keith and Seabrook spent a few years missing the playoffs, and Toews and Kane missed one or two as well. That team however collected the great talent and then surrounded it with good supporting talent. They now win in the regular season and playoffs. That's what I'd like to see with our Canucks some day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 That still doesn't explain that horrendous contract extension for Luca Sbisa That one's a total mystery and it makes my head hurt to think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canacks1970 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 While I admire your optimism and desire to look at the positives, there are some main difference between the 2006 era and now. You had it right on the button, but your analysis went a little sidways The first part of your statement is true, but then you contract yourself by saying the Sedins are mentoring our young players. What young players? By the time our best prospects are regulars in the NHL the Sedins will most likely be retiring. You said that Naslund, Morrison, Linden and Ohlund helped mold the 2011 core, and yes they did but you have to realize that the Sedins, Kesler, Burrow and Bieksa were already established NHL'ers by 2006-07, not still developing in the minors or in junior. McCann, Cassels, Shinkaruk and Gaunce are still not reading to be NHL regulars so what are the Sedins mentoring? Horvat? That's not enough. This is where some Canucks fans are worried. We all understand that we need veterans to help mentor young players, but where are our young players? We traded away Kassian for a 31 year old, and while you can argue that frees up a RW spot that takes away a LW spot. You aren't subtracting any roster spots by trading away Kassian. We were able to stay competitive and get younger because we offloaded our assets, for example Bertuzzi, when their value was greatest. This re-tool your are trying to coin should have happened at the end of 2011-12 or atleast 2012-13 after the Lockout, and not now. That retool in 2006 was proactive while this one seems forced and almost like damage control. Actually Naslund,Linden and Ohlund did mentor the Sedins,Kesler,Bieska and Burrows. Prior to the 06/07 season Bieska and Burrows only had a half season playing in the NHL and before that they spent at least two years in the minors and Alex was spending time in the ECHL before he was discovered. Ryan Kesler only had a year and ahalf experience and spent most of two years in the minors . Yes the Sedins were in the league longer, but they were still developing. Before the 05/06 season the Sedins were averaging 40 plus points a season before they broke out in the 70 point range. Sorry in my opinion that's not what I call established. Besides Horvat did you forget who's going to mentor guys like Kenins,Clendening ,Swen Baertschi,Frank Corrado that are coming up next year? How many years are we going to wait for a guy like Kassian? Two teams and 4 coaches!!! And from what I heard from team 1040 28 other teams didn't take a sniff at him tells you something and Benning took the best offer. Yes I agree back then the team stay competitive BY TRADING some of the old core with the likes of Big Bert but do you remember back then we also didn't have one roster player that had a NTC where making trades were alot easier. And yes we should re-tool by the strike shorten season but its not Bennings fault that he taken over from a previous Gm that was giving out Ntc or drafting poorly over that span. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canacks1970 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 In 4-5 years, the McDynasty will be revving up in Edmonton. We are screwed either way. Unfortunatly that's not going to happen IMO in a Canadian Market as long as you have a Salary cap and a low Canadian Dollar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surtur Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 What exactly is market value? What we think our players are worth? Is it such a stretch that maybe we overvalue our players? Sellers don't always get what they want. but sometimes you just accept what someone is willing to pay. We sure do overvalue our players because other then the Twins every other team already has a similar player on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desiboynux4lifee******* Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I'm telling you guys rite now, come deadline if this team doesn't do the obivous it will be shocking and upsetting. I am honestly praying this team sells at the deadline because guys like Hamuis, Vrbata, Higgins/Hansen hold great value and the year after they can sell Bonino and Edler you are looking at some serious draft picks if they use this model Hammer - late 1st Vrbata - late 1st Higgins 3rd Year after Edler- great market good value Bonino - 2nd rounder maybe more This way they got 2 years of a honest rebuild, then by two years end they will have more developed prospects in Subban, Hutton, Pedan, who can fight for spots on the team. Any other way will be a disaster just do a honest rebuild for two years, that's all I ask as a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I'm telling you guys rite now, come deadline if this team doesn't do the obivous it will be shocking and upsetting. I am honestly praying this team sells at the deadline because guys like Hamuis, Vrbata, Higgins/Hansen hold great value and the year after they can sell Bonino and Edler you are looking at some serious draft picks if they use this model Hammer - late 1st Vrbata - late 1st Higgins 3rd Year after Edler- great market good value Bonino - 2nd rounder maybe more this is what they need to do and I guarantee you hammer pulls a Winnick and resigns with Canucks' because he is a BC boy.I value hamhuis at least a mid first. Maybe I'm wrong. What does everyone else think? Also I assume he has a ntc clause. . That probably hurts his value I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattA16 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Finally, a dose of much needed optimism. Thank you OP. It frustrates me tremendously when I see all these CDC'ers campaigning for a "full tank". Even if JB wanted to go such a route he was tied up with so many NTC's and bad contracts when he came into the position such a route would be impossible to completely clear house and start from the ground up. Frankly, I think "tanking" is the worst possible thing any franchise could do. One of the only real tanks I can think of is the Edmonton Oilers. Now if fans are willing to miss the playoffs for a full decade and hope that they win a draft lottery for the best prospect since Crosby than I suppose tanking would be an option. I constantly hear the argument "oh we need a top 5 pick in the draft to be a contender in the future so we need to tank in order get that pick." If only it were that easy. The amount of teams who have gotten a top 5 picks over the last decade and have failed to make any real run for the cup is an endless list. The Islanders got one of the best #1 overall picks outside of Crosby in recent memory and If I'm not mistaken haven't made it out of the 1st round since he's landed there. Florida has gotten so many top 5 picks I've lost count and have made the playoffs what, once in the last 6 or 7 years thanks to being in a bad division? Edmonton I don't even need to explain. Columbus is another one, Toronto, and the list goes on. Getting a good draft position is not a guaranteed pathway to success, there are plenty of other aspects of "rebuilding" that must be performed. Everyone looks at Chicago and says "Well they had a #1 pick and a #3 pick and they've won x amount of cups". This is true, but don't forget the amount of pieces that have surrounded Kane and Toews that have aided in success. Duncan Keith was a 2nd round pick, Andrew Shaw a later round guy, they've had guys like Saad, Hjalmarsson, Sharp etc. all of whom have been picked outside of the top 10 and have been instrumental to their success, not to mention acquired players like Hossa who have also played major roles. I think Anaheim is one of the most well rounded teams in the league, and they haven't had a top 5 pick since Bobby Ryan who isn't even on the team anymore. They have drafted extremely well with their 1st round picks regardless of their position (Getzlaf 19, Perry 28, Fowler #12), and with their 2nd+ round picks (Andersen 87, Vatanen 106) and have picked up outside pieces (Kesler, Silfverberg) all of whom have been instrumental to their success. Theres a whole process to rebuilding and its not as easy as tanking and getting a high draft pick, then filling up your roster with 18 year olds who aren't ready and bombing every year. Last point, I think people underestimate the importance of veterans and leadership having an impact on young players. Oilers youngsters lacked this guidance and it showed. Calgary is a great example. Yes they have a lot of young players, but instrumental to their success is the guidance and leadership of guys like Giordano, Hudler, Russell, etc. who helped the Gaudreau's (btw a 4th round pick), and Monahan's perform the way they did. Bo Horvat said in an interview that a major reason for his success was the guidance and leadership of guys like Dorsett, Mathias, and the Sedins, who not only helped Bo directly, but showed on and off the ice the qualities and practices of being a successful NHL player. He said one of the greatest eye openers was seeing the work ethic and how in shape the Sedins were. It made him realize the off ice commitments he needed to make to be successful, and look at his development thus far. We need some guys in the lineup who can help develop the younger players through leadership, whether it be through helping them directly or leading by example, its important for development. Imagine you were a police officer and your entire patrol was rookies. Who would you learn from? How would you transition from a young police officer with little experience and knowledge to a trusted officer who can deal with all situations? You have to learn from experienced people who show you by example and by teaching you, its like any other job. Professional hockey is no different. JB is doing his best to ease in the younger core of players without blowing everything up. He's surrounding these players with veterans who can help them the way they helped Bo. He's creating a winning environment in the AHL so players can transition better to the big league, and look how that helped the Tampa Bay Lightning and their core of young players who came through the AHL. Theres so much more to rebuilding than tanking; it involves good scouting, good development, and surrounding these players with good leaders. By the end of this year many of the vets will be at the end of their contracts, so it is safe to say that the opening roster for next year will have its fair share of young players, all of whom will have had the luxury of not being rushed into an NHL roster. Trust the process and realize how much there is to rebuilding a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Awesome post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Finally, a dose of much needed optimism. Thank you OP. It frustrates me tremendously when I see all these CDC'ers campaigning for a "full tank". Even if JB wanted to go such a route he was tied up with so many NTC's and bad contracts when he came into the position such a route would be impossible to completely clear house and start from the ground up. Frankly, I think "tanking" is the worst possible thing any franchise could do. One of the only real tanks I can think of is the Edmonton Oilers. Now if fans are willing to miss the playoffs for a full decade and hope that they win a draft lottery for the best prospect since Crosby than I suppose tanking would be an option. I constantly hear the argument "oh we need a top 5 pick in the draft to be a contender in the future so we need to tank in order get that pick." If only it were that easy. The amount of teams who have gotten a top 5 picks over the last decade and have failed to make any real run for the cup is an endless list. The Islanders got one of the best #1 overall picks outside of Crosby in recent memory and If I'm not mistaken haven't made it out of the 1st round since he's landed there. Florida has gotten so many top 5 picks I've lost count and have made the playoffs what, once in the last 6 or 7 years thanks to being in a bad division? Edmonton I don't even need to explain. Columbus is another one, Toronto, and the list goes on. Getting a good draft position is not a guaranteed pathway to success, there are plenty of other aspects of "rebuilding" that must be performed. Everyone looks at Chicago and says "Well they had a #1 pick and a #3 pick and they've won x amount of cups". This is true, but don't forget the amount of pieces that have surrounded Kane and Toews that have aided in success. Duncan Keith was a 2nd round pick, Andrew Shaw a later round guy, they've had guys like Saad, Hjalmarsson, Sharp etc. all of whom have been picked outside of the top 10 and have been instrumental to their success, not to mention acquired players like Hossa who have also played major roles. I think Anaheim is one of the most well rounded teams in the league, and they haven't had a top 5 pick since Bobby Ryan who isn't even on the team anymore. They have drafted extremely well with their 1st round picks regardless of their position (Getzlaf 19, Perry 28, Fowler #12), and with their 2nd+ round picks (Andersen 87, Vatanen 106) and have picked up outside pieces (Kesler, Silfverberg) all of whom have been instrumental to their success. Theres a whole process to rebuilding and its not as easy as tanking and getting a high draft pick, then filling up your roster with 18 year olds who aren't ready and bombing every year. Last point, I think people underestimate the importance of veterans and leadership having an impact on young players. Oilers youngsters lacked this guidance and it showed. Calgary is a great example. Yes they have a lot of young players, but instrumental to their success is the guidance and leadership of guys like Giordano, Hudler, Russell, etc. who helped the Gaudreau's (btw a 4th round pick), and Monahan's perform the way they did. Bo Horvat said in an interview that a major reason for his success was the guidance and leadership of guys like Dorsett, Mathias, and the Sedins, who not only helped Bo directly, but showed on and off the ice the qualities and practices of being a successful NHL player. He said one of the greatest eye openers was seeing the work ethic and how in shape the Sedins were. It made him realize the off ice commitments he needed to make to be successful, and look at his development thus far. We need some guys in the lineup who can help develop the younger players through leadership, whether it be through helping them directly or leading by example, its important for development. Imagine you were a police officer and your entire patrol was rookies. Who would you learn from? How would you transition from a young police officer with little experience and knowledge to a trusted officer who can deal with all situations? You have to learn from experienced people who show you by example and by teaching you, its like any other job. Professional hockey is no different. JB is doing his best to ease in the younger core of players without blowing everything up. He's surrounding these players with veterans who can help them the way they helped Bo. He's creating a winning environment in the AHL so players can transition better to the big league, and look how that helped the Tampa Bay Lightning and their core of young players who came through the AHL. Theres so much more to rebuilding than tanking; it involves good scouting, good development, and surrounding these players with good leaders. By the end of this year many of the vets will be at the end of their contracts, so it is safe to say that the opening roster for next year will have its fair share of young players, all of whom will have had the luxury of not being rushed into an NHL roster. Trust the process and realize how much there is to rebuilding a team. Well said. So many elements to a winning team where a BALANCE of these is needed and not just ONE of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Finally, a dose of much needed optimism. Thank you OP. It frustrates me tremendously when I see all these CDC'ers campaigning for a "full tank". Even if JB wanted to go such a route he was tied up with so many NTC's and bad contracts when he came into the position such a route would be impossible to completely clear house and start from the ground up. Frankly, I think "tanking" is the worst possible thing any franchise could do. One of the only real tanks I can think of is the Edmonton Oilers. Now if fans are willing to miss the playoffs for a full decade and hope that they win a draft lottery for the best prospect since Crosby than I suppose tanking would be an option. I constantly hear the argument "oh we need a top 5 pick in the draft to be a contender in the future so we need to tank in order get that pick." If only it were that easy. The amount of teams who have gotten a top 5 picks over the last decade and have failed to make any real run for the cup is an endless list. The Islanders got one of the best #1 overall picks outside of Crosby in recent memory and If I'm not mistaken haven't made it out of the 1st round since he's landed there. Florida has gotten so many top 5 picks I've lost count and have made the playoffs what, once in the last 6 or 7 years thanks to being in a bad division? Edmonton I don't even need to explain. Columbus is another one, Toronto, and the list goes on. Getting a good draft position is not a guaranteed pathway to success, there are plenty of other aspects of "rebuilding" that must be performed. Everyone looks at Chicago and says "Well they had a #1 pick and a #3 pick and they've won x amount of cups". This is true, but don't forget the amount of pieces that have surrounded Kane and Toews that have aided in success. Duncan Keith was a 2nd round pick, Andrew Shaw a later round guy, they've had guys like Saad, Hjalmarsson, Sharp etc. all of whom have been picked outside of the top 10 and have been instrumental to their success, not to mention acquired players like Hossa who have also played major roles. I think Anaheim is one of the most well rounded teams in the league, and they haven't had a top 5 pick since Bobby Ryan who isn't even on the team anymore. They have drafted extremely well with their 1st round picks regardless of their position (Getzlaf 19, Perry 28, Fowler #12), and with their 2nd+ round picks (Andersen 87, Vatanen 106) and have picked up outside pieces (Kesler, Silfverberg) all of whom have been instrumental to their success. Theres a whole process to rebuilding and its not as easy as tanking and getting a high draft pick, then filling up your roster with 18 year olds who aren't ready and bombing every year. Last point, I think people underestimate the importance of veterans and leadership having an impact on young players. Oilers youngsters lacked this guidance and it showed. Calgary is a great example. Yes they have a lot of young players, but instrumental to their success is the guidance and leadership of guys like Giordano, Hudler, Russell, etc. who helped the Gaudreau's (btw a 4th round pick), and Monahan's perform the way they did. Bo Horvat said in an interview that a major reason for his success was the guidance and leadership of guys like Dorsett, Mathias, and the Sedins, who not only helped Bo directly, but showed on and off the ice the qualities and practices of being a successful NHL player. He said one of the greatest eye openers was seeing the work ethic and how in shape the Sedins were. It made him realize the off ice commitments he needed to make to be successful, and look at his development thus far. We need some guys in the lineup who can help develop the younger players through leadership, whether it be through helping them directly or leading by example, its important for development. Imagine you were a police officer and your entire patrol was rookies. Who would you learn from? How would you transition from a young police officer with little experience and knowledge to a trusted officer who can deal with all situations? You have to learn from experienced people who show you by example and by teaching you, its like any other job. Professional hockey is no different. JB is doing his best to ease in the younger core of players without blowing everything up. He's surrounding these players with veterans who can help them the way they helped Bo. He's creating a winning environment in the AHL so players can transition better to the big league, and look how that helped the Tampa Bay Lightning and their core of young players who came through the AHL. Theres so much more to rebuilding than tanking; it involves good scouting, good development, and surrounding these players with good leaders. By the end of this year many of the vets will be at the end of their contracts, so it is safe to say that the opening roster for next year will have its fair share of young players, all of whom will have had the luxury of not being rushed into an NHL roster. Trust the process and realize how much there is to rebuilding a team. Can someone put this as the best answer?? People of CDC, read this! That is how a true successor gets made. If the lazy, nay-sayers of CDC gave 5 mins to read this, their minds would change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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