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Wow. After the OP made a very intelligent post with great insight, all the idiots on this board STILL find a way to slander Benning.

God I hate this idiotic, clueless fan base. Around 97% of our fans have literally no idea what's going on.

His whole post was based on opinion and things that can't be defined like "character". WTF does character even mean? Who can judge that? U are a clown and have no clue.... Intelligent post?.... My &^@#ing god.

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I enjoyed the read. I worry about Bennings asset management but I really like the overall direction. When he decides to do something, he sure doesn't beat around the bush. He seems to have a very deliberate plan and he isn't straying from it. Gotta respect him for his conviction even if I don't agree with some of the moves.

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I'll be brief--or try to be! Vancouverite displaced and currently residing in the Hub (Boston). Benning and Linden know what it takes to win--in my mind TL is a champion but that's a discussion for a later date. They inherited a mess which I think they've done a tremendous job cleaning up. I view Benning as the equivalent of Bill Belichick/ Kraft of the NHL. For real.

He knows what it takes to win a Stanely Cup and he's telling you! He's telling you! "Character guys, consistent, gritty, skilled, two-way players, hard working, and again character." What does that mean? It means that he's not going to overpay or gamble on guys like Kassian who haven't shown up and won't ever show up! Pats are notorious for "cutting the cord" and expecting their players to be multi-dimensional and not over paying for roster spots.

Have you forgotten the Boston series? Marchand became a household name from that series because of his character. That whole Boston team "willed" their way to a Stanley Cup. I was so ashamed that my beloved Canucks had zero spine and essentially turtled. Have faith that these signings are essential to the next ones and creating a culture that is long overdue in Vancouver. Patriots have established that culture and it didn't happen in two seasons but the result is over a decade of being competitive. TL knew that it wasn't just skill that got that 1994 team to the finals it was character. They did their job.

When JB has more cap room next season I hope he'll draft and be frugal and demand that players "do their job". Year 3 and I'm confident the culture and expectations in the locker room will be solidified. We will have an arsenal of character players that will bring us multiple Stanley Cups. There is no way that you can be in New England and not adapt that Patriot blueprint.

thanks Jerry, great post. i agree, this team is going deep within 3 years.

i watched Cassels and McCann kill it this year in the playoffs, these kids are playoff built.

benning knows exactly whats he's doing, people that have never actually played the sport have zero appreciation for the intangibles like "Intimidation" + "Heart" + "Battle Level" and these are the difference makers between the guys that win championships and the guys that just do good in the early part of the season than turn to crap once the game gets heavy and whistles get put away.

Linden is on point.

These guys will build us a beauty.

I agree somewhat character is the key to victory. But it's not always about character. It's also about how the team works hard for each other and win consistently as a team. With WD, we are always a playoff team. We will always find ways to grind out games and win em. In this league it's about winning. We are going to be like the Blackhawks one day. It's just the question of when.... I say in a few years but as long as we make playoffs while retooling on the way, I'm pretty stoked to see how we'll shape up to be in the future. Also Cassels, Horvat, Virtanen, McCann, Shinkaruk, etc are the future of this franchise and I'm pumped to see how they'll shape up to be with our club for years to come.

agreed !! these guys are going to be awesome for us.

Wow. After the OP made a very intelligent post with great insight, all the idiots on this board STILL find a way to slander Benning.

God I hate this idiotic, clueless fan base. Around 97% of our fans have literally no idea what's going on.

The clown media in this town clickbaits these donkeys into hysterics ,

parroting the exact same garbage that Tony Gallagher , Jason Botchford and some of the Team 1040 hacks have puked out of their cancer pits.

Agreed, I hate this fan base. So embarrassing, time and time again.

It really has been an embarrassment listening to these idiots e-lynching Benning and Linden without the foggiest clue of what actually happens behind the scenes.

Good to see more and more positive posts by guys that understand the game and playoff hockey.

I can't wait to see the Horvat,Virtanen,Cassels,McCann, Boeser , Demko era takeover.

#PlayoffBuilt

#InBenningWeTrust

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Troll?! I don't even know what that means?! I had to wait to be approved by admin--so yes I did "just join".

I'm a 40 year old father of twin boys, who grew up in Prince George and was raised in YVR. I played a myriad of competitive sports and hockey at a high level. I'm not just talking out of my a$$.

I was there in 1994 and in 2011 (meaning physically present at the hockey games) and I'm passionate about sport in general and my beloved Canucks.

I've been following close and had wanted to share my perspective and opinion. If "trolling" means that I have a life...than yes I'm a "troll". My twins have been active in competitive sports and Montessori since 3 years of age so registering and commenting are the last things I want to do.

It's a holiday week here and I took this opportunity to voice my opinion--I've worked hard for this free time. I take offense to a**holes like yourself who make totally baseless and insidious comments...

Zero fu**s given if you ban me. I know what it takes to be successful. I guess you really are the spineless mungs that burned my city down--again. Pathetic. I'm glad you could put your joystick down and stop gaming (or viewing free porn) to state your comments.

Genius.

To the true fans: Canucks will trump the Hawks as far as dynasty or legacy is concerned. More importantly, for everyone involved...we will have a quality, competitive, durable product for decades. Resulting in: Championships.

What a waste of time. Go, Canucks, go!

Relax,

you're going to find all kinds of people on here who think they are the know all/be all of this site; the only ones who are allowed to make their opinions known.

The thing that really makes me laugh is that they claim these are stupid posts, yet they still like to waste more of their precious time offering pointless comments to the board.

Ignore them. Stick to the comments that are relevent to the topic at hand.

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Wow. After the OP made a very intelligent post with great insight, all the idiots on this board STILL find a way to slander Benning.

God I hate this idiotic, clueless fan base. Around 97% of our fans have literally no idea what's going on.

I find that MOST (not all, some are simply opposing views) of that sort of slamming the team comes from people who like attention more than anything. It's become the cool thing (not) to go against the grain and be part of the see we told you so club. Sheeple who glom on to catch phrase ideas and really don't process and present them as their own.

I haven't been able to figure out the direction of the management (in getting younger by way of doling picks and younger guys), but I trust that they know more than I do.

Although there is huge disappointment in loss for me, I'm also one who embraces changes and looks forward to the future to see what develops before deciding. I am hopefully optimistic. Not sure why people wouldn't be...many of the same naysayers also scream for change and slam the team on an ongoing basis. So eat your cake.

I believe we should give things a chance before deciding....doesn't seem fair not to. I am pretty excited about Prust joining the team and that has offset (slightly) the huge loss of KB3...we need guys with a bit of a snarl and he brings that.

I will miss Kass and his unpredictability on the ice...he had an air of crazy that is actually a very good thing because teams just never know. Unfortunately, those same traits may have carried over and be part of his demise. I wish him the very best...he's extremely likeable and deserves success if he buckles down and goes after it.

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I find that MOST (not all, some are simply opposing views) of that sort of slamming the team comes from people who like attention more than anything. It's become the cool thing (not) to go against the grain and be part of the see we told you so club. Sheeple who glom on to catch phrase ideas and really don't process and present them as their own.

Do you not find that alot of those that slam the fanbase entire are pretty much the same on the other side of the fence? Cliquish elitism is the enemy of any forum just as much perpetual downers.

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Marchand is a household name because he is a gutless coward. I am a Boston fan and I readily admit that.

Also, a team with zero championships in 45 years cannot be compared to the Patriots.

Yeah if taking cheap shots and then turtling is character then Marchand has a ton.

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Do you not find that alot of those that slam the fanbase entire are pretty much the same on the other side of the fence? Cliquish elitism is the enemy of any forum just as much perpetual downers.

True.....but I find it strange that some have NOTHING good EVER to say about the team, fans, management. I question why they bother over time, if it's so painful and dysfunctional....at some point it becomes a matter of choice. No one is forced into being a fan and if it isn't working, then we all have the power to decide.

Being critical is fine....but if it's the ONLY theme, it's questionable.

So let's get back to the topic, shall we? Which was a positive one and seemingly a rare breed at this point in the (off) season.

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Read another article this afternoon on the success of the Patriots over the years. Interesting quote from one of the analysts ... "The Patriots are one of those franchises that don't rebuild, they reload."

Are we rebuilding, or reloading? To me it looks like we're rebuilding over the next couple years to get to an ongoing state of reloading. The recent 1-year deals kinda have a reload feel to them. Add Benning's talent for prospects and we could be following that same reload formula to the success we've always wanted. Next year's draft will be exciting!

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Boston didn't will their way to the cup, they beat a canuck team that was missing half their D and 2/3 of their 2nd line. Also they had Thomas, Chara and Bergevin. It's not like they didn't have some of the top players in the world.

You're acting like Benning saying he wants character is something revolutionary. Most hockey people say the same thing.

If there's a hockey team that's like the Patriots it's the Blackhawks. Canucks are more like the Bengals.

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Boston didn't will their way to the cup, they beat a canuck team that was missing half their D and 2/3 of their 2nd line. Also they had Thomas, Chara and Bergevin. It's not like they didn't have some of the top players in the world.

You're acting like Benning saying he wants character is something revolutionary. Most hockey people say the same thing.

If there's a hockey team that's like the Patriots it's the Blackhawks. Canucks are more like the Bengals.

Look, the Blackhawks were losers for a long, long time. The Patriots were mediocre for years before they turned into a winning organization. I'm not saying character is revolutionary. But it is key component to a winning culture. What I'm doing is listening to what Benning and Linden are saying and seeing some of their plan in how the Pats turned things around. When people say they can't understand what Benning and Linden are doing, well, maybe looking back at Linden's visit with the Spurs can provide insight.

And just because most hockey people say it doesn't mean they're good judges of character. If character is the starting point for Linden and Benning, that's a great foundation. It was for both the Pats and Spurs. It starts from the top down. This is about change and allowing it to take shape.

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You need character but you also need an elite level of skill.

Kane and Toews have both.

Kopitar, Williams and Brown had them both.

Lucic, Krejci and company had them.

Hopefully the Canucks young kids have a high enough level of skill to score goals. I don't doubt their character, but I doubt their scoring ability.

take brown of that list, that guy is garbage he has no character and he is far from elite level skill, that garbage hides behind Kopitar of all people when someone comes after him to answer for his cheap shots

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Wow. After the OP made a very intelligent post with great insight, all the idiots on this board STILL find a way to slander Benning.

God I hate this idiotic, clueless fan base. Around 97% of our fans have literally no idea what's going on.

His whole post was based on opinion and things that can't be defined like "character". WTF does character even mean? Who can judge that? U are a clown and have no clue.... Intelligent post?.... My ???? god.

Evidently you are one of those fans he was talking about.

Good to see more and more positive posts by guys that understand the game and playoff hockey.

Yes, I think the initial reaction to the trades has worn off, and people are starting to see the rationale behind them and getting onboard with the program. The haters are still going to hate, because they frankly have no idea what's actually going on here (see above). One day in the midst of their whining they will suddenly realize that we have a young, entertaining, competitive team and wonder what happened.

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Look, the Blackhawks were losers for a long, long time. The Patriots were mediocre for years before they turned into a winning organization. I'm not saying character is revolutionary. But it is key component to a winning culture. What I'm doing is listening to what Benning and Linden are saying and seeing some of their plan in how the Pats turned things around. When people say they can't understand what Benning and Linden are doing, well, maybe looking back at Linden's visit with the Spurs can provide insight.

And just because most hockey people say it doesn't mean they're good judges of character. If character is the starting point for Linden and Benning, that's a great foundation. It was for both the Pats and Spurs. It starts from the top down. This is about change and allowing it to take shape.

Belicheck gets questioned every year when he releases one of his star veterans, and people say this is the year the Pats suck... but it never happens because he sticks to his guts and overall strategy for the team. I think Linden realized this when he visited them.

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