bigbadcanucks Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 This may have been one of the most uneventful three days of UFA signings in a number of years, though there's still a few second tier UFAs unsigned. Not a whole lot of high end UFAs either. So, after three days of UF Agency, what are some of your picks as the best signing? Beleskey with the Bruins? Richards with the Wings? Green with the Wings? Bartkowksi with the Canucks? Ribeiro with the Preds? Frolik with the Flames? For my money, the best UFA signing in terms of value goes to the Devils for signing John Moore for three years at $1.67M AAV. Still pretty young (24)...has some upside...can play physically...great wheels. Just needs a little more polish to his game. Where will Matthias go? Been pretty quiet in his camp... At least there's been trades and RFA signings and our own drama with Lack, Bieksa, and Kassian, so it hasn't been a complete let down, but I can't remember these first few days of UFA being so bland. Am curious to see who CDC thinks is the best signing in UFA thus far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Whichever contender gets Semin for dirt cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Juice Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Trades are more interesting than Free Agency this year sadly. It's not like the free agent list was great to begin with in the first place. We're all more interested in the trade market than the free agent signing market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Best UFA signing was John Moore. Hands down. Wish we'd picked him up and either buried Sbisa or not signed Bartkowski. Worst signing was Weber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Best UFA signing was John Moore. Hands down. Wish we'd picked him up and either buried Sbisa or not signed Bartkowski. Worst signing was Weber. Weber is a pylon... What a plug! Worthless player he's getting 1.5 million? He can't even score a goal. Oh wait... He led our d core in goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Weber is a pylon... What a plug! Worthless player he's getting 1.5 million? He can't even score a goal. Oh wait... He led our d core in goals. A) not difficult, with that offensive juggernaut of a D; we already have three better RHD (Tanev, Corrado, Clendening); C) $1.5m is too much; D) his defensive capabilities are a massive hindrance. Combined with Sbisa, we have two liabilities on D and if we do tank as the signs portend, and Hamhuis is traded at the deadline, then we will be in serious trouble; E) John Moore got marginally more than Weber, and he's twice the player Weber will ever be; F) you're a gimp (sorry, Wayne's World reference...) G) his performance in the playoffs was diabolical. Although as we won't be anywhere near them this season I guess we don't have to worry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaSwede Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 A) not difficult, with that offensive juggernaut of a D; we already have three better RHD (Tanev, Corrado, Clendening); C) $1.5m is too much; D) his defensive capabilities are a massive hindrance. Combined with Sbisa, we have two liabilities on D and if we do tank as the signs portend, and Hamhuis is traded at the deadline, then we will be in serious trouble; E) John Moore got marginally more than Weber, and he's twice the player Weber will ever be; F) you're a gimp (sorry, Wayne's World reference...) G) his performance in the playoffs was diabolical. Although as we won't be anywhere near them this season I guess we don't have to worry A) Is that why Weber spent most of the season on the Canucks blue line and Corrado and Clendening were in Utica? E) Moore was a part of the package that saw Yandle moved to the Rangers from Arizona. I wonder why one of the worst teams in the NHL let go off a 24 year old that could be had on a contract with less than a 2 million cap hit.. If he was twice the player, he would have been signed by a contender for a higher cap.. not the Devlils and their shady d-core. Bad post bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzy Desjardins Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 All the talk was "where is cody franson gonna go..." And unless I've been under a rock and missed it. .. I believe he is still a free agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChwkCanux Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 A) Is that why Weber spent most of the season on the Canucks blue line and Corrado and Clendening were in Utica? E) Moore was a part of the package that saw Yandle moved to the Rangers from Arizona. I wonder why one of the worst teams in the NHL let go off a 24 year old that could be had on a contract with less than a 2 million cap hit.. If he was twice the player, he would have been signed by a contender for a higher cap.. not the Devlils and their shady d-core. Bad post bud. I agree with all of the above. Moore hasn't shown much of anything at the NHL level and the only reason people pay attention is because he was a first round draft pick. Numerous teams have passed on him and he is a young, cheap asset. That is a red flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 A) not difficult, with that offensive juggernaut of a D; we already have three better RHD (Tanev, Corrado, Clendening); C) $1.5m is too much; D) his defensive capabilities are a massive hindrance. Combined with Sbisa, we have two liabilities on D and if we do tank as the signs portend, and Hamhuis is traded at the deadline, then we will be in serious trouble; E) John Moore got marginally more than Weber, and he's twice the player Weber will ever be; F) you're a gimp (sorry, Wayne's World reference...) G) his performance in the playoffs was diabolical. Although as we won't be anywhere near them this season I guess we don't have to worry Fully agree. Do not know why others do not see his deficiencies and what we are getting for 1.5. Oh well its only for a shorrt time and hopefully we do not have to put up with him past next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 A) Is that why Weber spent most of the season on the Canucks blue line and Corrado and Clendening were in Utica? E) Moore was a part of the package that saw Yandle moved to the Rangers from Arizona. I wonder why one of the worst teams in the NHL let go off a 24 year old that could be had on a contract with less than a 2 million cap hit.. If he was twice the player, he would have been signed by a contender for a higher cap.. not the Devlils and their shady d-core. Bad post bud. Weber spent more time on the Canucks than Corrado and Clendening as they both needed some more seasoning. Now they have it, both should be ahead of Weber and form our 3RHD with Tanev. If Benning and Desjardins are serious about committing to youngsters, they cannot afford to let any NHL developmental time go to waste. The only time Weber should be seeing on the ice next season is if one of those three are injured, or if we're in full tank mode. And I wouldn't take anything Arizona does as having any meaning. This is a franchise that has been criminally mis-managed for years, is currently homeless, bankrolled by its colleague teams, and has a GM that appears to have no intention of ever competing in the league. Let's not forget, Moore played for the USA at the World Championships - if there is any question over his ability then he would be nowhere near their D, as they had a lot of good options. Weber's goals cannot make up for his deficiencies in his own end. We have two exciting RHD prospects that deserve the ice time. He should be in the press box for 82 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowgary Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Green and Richards to Detroit were good signings, two needs filled. Franson seems to be headed to the Sharks from some reports. Eric Fehr would be a good cheap pick up for a team needing a forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I love how much people complain about salaries. Are you signing the checks? What difference does it make between 1.2 and 1.5 million? You can't sign every bottom pairing or 4th line guy to 800k contracts anymore. This is a skill league. And there's no room for minor league scrubs taking up spots. If you want a full time NHLer in today's league. Be ready to pay 1.5-2 million minimum. Weber had a great year and with more defensive coaching, he can be a great player. Dorsett making 2.65 is more than fair for what he brings. I just don't understand the whining. We have cap space. We will have $20M+ in cap space next year. Term is one thing. But unless he's getting paid more than $6M, there shouldn't be talk about money. People think salaries are based on on-ice performance alone, and they couldn't be more wrong. Hopefully the wanna-be accountants on this forum will shut up sooner or later when they realize players get payed more now compared to 10 years ago. You think Toronto was happy paying Phill Kessel $9M to float around and eat donuts? Open your eyes people. The difference between $1M and $1.5M is minute at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatedkid666 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Moore signing was solid for the Devils. Belesky wasn't as bad as a signing that everyone was expecting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 John Moore for sure. If only Benning could make a deal like that. Moore is actually younger than Sbisa by almost a year and drafted a year later. He was also a UFA, Sbisa was an RFA at a 2.3 QO. In what world should Luca Sbisa earn almost 2.5x more than John Moore? Check out their HERO charts: Luca Sbisa: http://public.tableau.com/shared/Y6B8FCNYD?:display_count=yes John Moore: http://public.tableau.com/shared/PPBXC3ZCF?:display_count=yes Moore is a bottom pairing defenseman who looks capable of moving up into the 2nd pairing slot. He still has a lot of unrealized potential, size, and is a great skater. While is stats are underwhelming, looking at his HERO chart shows that with more ice time he could be a solid contributor. Sbisa on the other hand has been given a lot of minutes but has floundered miserable. He looks like a player who looks to be sinking into a 6/7 spot, if not the AHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavel.10.Bure Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 HERE WE GO AGAIN. At least a few people in CDC already realized that we will have about 20 MILLION in CAP space next year with arguably better Free Agents.. Will have more picks.. Just wait for next year before you hate on another GM again.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadcanucks Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 A) not difficult, with that offensive juggernaut of a D; we already have three better RHD (Tanev, Corrado, Clendening); C) $1.5m is too much; D) his defensive capabilities are a massive hindrance. Combined with Sbisa, we have two liabilities on D and if we do tank as the signs portend, and Hamhuis is traded at the deadline, then we will be in serious trouble; E) John Moore got marginally more than Weber, and he's twice the player Weber will ever be; F) you're a gimp (sorry, Wayne's World reference...) G) his performance in the playoffs was diabolical. Although as we won't be anywhere near them this season I guess we don't have to worry Benning sure likes his undersized d-men on the right side, doesn't he? Tanev -194 lbs.; Clendening - 190 lbs.; Corrado - 195 lbs.; Weber - 200 lbs.; next in chute as RHD: Biega 190 lbs.; Fedun 195 lbs. and Subban 185 lbs. Junior teams have bigger d-men than this...but you know, Benning wants to model our defence corps after the 'hawks with a fast / puck moving transitional group. Oh wait, we don't have a guy like Keith that can do that. Gonna be an interesting stretch while the Canucks work with a collective group of undersized, average skating d-men that they have on the right side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob.Loblaw Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 The trading this past week has been VERY intense. Which makes up for the slow UFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Everyone knew this was a weak class. People assume next year's might be strong, but that can easily change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 It's a small piece but that Brodziak deal was a steal. Edit: the other two signings I really like we're the Caps deal for Williams and the Oilers deal for Letestu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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