hsedin33 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Mike Gillis wanted him. Therefore no other GM wanted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasCanuck Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I often thought Matthias would be best used on defense. He's got great size, great wheels and all year he was great on the PK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I often thought Matthias would be best used on defense. He's got great size, great wheels and all year he was great on the PK. That's funny, because I thought Weber would work great as a bottom 6 winger... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I like Matthias, but I'm not sure he fits the Canucks long-term Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANUCK-EXPRESS Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 He plays really soft for a big guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 He plays really soft for a big guy. Yep, he's 6'5 but plays like he's 5'6" much like Franson another player that plays a small game. I have hope that Grenier has learned to play his size this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Should have traded him last deadline.Should have but no way that was happening when we were in a playoff race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Yeah, he went on vacation at various points of the season, he wanted far too much compensation for it, he has a tendency to play a tunnel-vision game (ala David Booth) and he is aloof when it comes to playing the kind of physical game he needs to - with far too many skate-bys when he should have been taking the body. I like Matthias, and he has some good tools, but he's beyond the point in his career where he can play intermittent hockey and have the kind of value to command more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 He's probably my least favorite player ever. His year end presser made him look like an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Fast, was able to score, took the puck to the net, but Grenier is similar size, younger, more physical, and a better playmaker. And as of last season, more consistent, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Should have but no way that was happening when we were in a playoff race. Would have anyway since he did nothing to help the team during that time and this was predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlerberry Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 gonna miss his GF too ew rly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snucks Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Come on ; they signed Vey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucktican Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 He left Vancouver in fear of MaxieMan98 stealing his girlfriend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 So all the people saying he was worth a 2nd at the trade deadline and Benning screwed up royally were totally on point because Matthias is clearly wanted league wide. Yeah, it's quite difficult to procure high draft picks for players when nobody is offering them. But at CDC, that's just annoying details. As Jack Fig points out, the availability of draft picks at the deadline is very different from what happens immediately before the draft and immediately after. In case anyone did not notice, a lot of draft picks were traded away for not very much at the deadline but became very hard to obtain in the lead up to the draft. At at this point no one is looking to draft away draft picks for short term help. As for Matthias, he value was high at the deadline, as he had been on a hot streak. HIs performance then dried up completely. I would be very surprised if he gets more than $2.5 million and I would not be surprised if he gets less. And there is no reason for the Canucks to sign him. With Daniel, Baertschi, Higgins, Prust, Kenins, and Gaunce on the depth chart at LW I do not see why the Canucks would want him. He slots in behind Daniel and Baertschi and is nowhere near as good defensively as Higgins or Prust, and he does not play the high energy game that Kenins plays. And at center he is not good enough defensively. Possibly he could slot in at 4C ahead of Vey, but the Canucks just signed Vey and probably view him as having more long run potential than Matthias. The Canucks could have and should have traded him for a second round pick at the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeygod77 Posted July 5, 2015 Author Share Posted July 5, 2015 i know I'm being an arm chair gm buthey i know talent and skill when i see it..if you think guance virtanen bowser etc will be good nhl players soon you guys are wrong...the players the canucks pick are always steps behind..good for junior leagues and maybe ahl but your giving up great talent in mathias lack and kassian..you watch the canucks will not score many goals again and the defence will get beat up..you need tough d men that can play and you need goalies that play with an edge.. i don't see any improvements...you got dorset prust and burrows...the rest of the team will get pushed around..you have a soft team benign and west coast teams will just punish the juniors... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzam Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I think he was best when he played with Richardson and Kassian. When he was moved up to the 2nd line, not so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Given that the UFA market has taken a strong turn to the buyer's favour, I wouldn't really be opposed to re-signing Mattias at an AAV starting with 2. Free agents just aren't getting paid what many were expecting. The 2015-16 salary cap, and uncertainty about where that figure is headed for 2016-17, means that many GMs are showing surprising level of restraint and we're just not seeing "mad money" getting thrown around like in previous years. I think it's looking more and more unlikely that Matthias earns a big payday (people were predicting he'd get more than $4 million per season only a month or two ago). I actually wouldn't be surprised if Matthias ends up accepting something closer to half that amount (which would put him right in our price range). That said, Matthias isn't the only UFA looking like he'll be settling for less money than expected this summer. And there are still a couple options out there I'd be much more interested in pursuing, for the right price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Yeah I wondered the same thing in the second half of the season and the playoffs - where did he go? Free agency is supposed to be an exciting and literally rewarding time for players, but for others it is painful as they find out nobody wants them or their bargaining power is essentially non-existent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Overpriced, underachieving, only scores goals and doesn't do much else at high-enough levels to warrant big money. Not surprised they let him go, more surprised/ disappointed at Zack's deal and how everything fell apart between him and team, but I digress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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