10 dead, 53 injured over the weekend in Chicago shootings, and mob violence in Cincinnati

[Baka]

I ve been to Chicago. It was really nice. Nobody killed me. We didnt see a single riot. They had a lot of great restaurants and none of them were being looted while we were there.

In all fairness you can say this about any city you visit. When you visit cities you hang around the nicer areas with the more upscale/successful businesses and restaurants and these areas in general are always pretty safe.

But if you wander into the bad areas you will notice a completely different aura. A lot of stores, fast food places, gas stations, etc will have you dealing with people behind bullet proof glass and exchanging goods in a bullet proof rotating chamber. Their are cameras on street corners sometimes not for traffic but in high crime areas where it is meant to watch the people. Hookers, tweakers, and drug dealers will be obvious spots and often approach or say things to you. If you are driving and with someone who has been around these areas even if it is summer they may tell you to roll up your windows and lock the doors or someone may target you for a quick robbery.

Major cities are pretty day and night depending on the area you are in.

[Mr. Ambien]

What about people who aren't criminals, get guns, and then become criminals? You have a plan to stop that?

Or better yet, his plan to actually get the illegal arms away from criminals.

"Okay guise, it's illegal now.. come hand in your weapons"

[thejazz97]

Or better yet, his plan to actually get the illegal arms away from criminals.

"Okay guise, it's illegal now.. come hand in your weapons"

I wonder what Hugor's reaction would be if America or Canada ever became a police state...

[Hugor Hill]

What about people who aren't criminals, get guns, and then become criminals? You have a plan to stop that?

This is why guns should be strictly controlled to begin with. Common sense. Unlike libertarians' thinking who wants to hand them out like candies.

[thejazz97]

This is why guns should be strictly controlled to begin with. Common sense. Unlike libertarians' thinking who wants to hand them out like candies.

Well, it's a bit too late for that...

[Hugor Hill]

^^ defeatist speak

[Mr. Ambien]

^^ No real plan on how to disarm criminals and juggle rights within the scope of the Constitution, just vague talking points.

"It's common sense!"

[thejazz97]

^^ defeatist speak

Honestly tho. You take guns away now, you'll stop crime in some areas but only increase it in others. And you'd have to take them away all across the world, because otherwise they could be smuggled in. You'd have to shut down and confiscate all movies even involving gun violence.

And once that's all said and done, you'd just have some other problem to complain about, and go through the same cycle again - eradicating as much as you can, but still having a problem with people who refuse to comply.

[Hugor Hill]

^^ Wants to give everyone guns so they can all kill each other #madmaxrules #toomuchtv

(sorry this is for Ambien, not Jazz)

[thejazz97]

^^ Wants to give everyone guns so they can all kill each other #madmaxrules #toomuchtv

You're a bit too late on the draw there bud.

[Hugor Hill]

Honestly tho. You take guns away now, you'll stop crime in some areas but only increase it in others. And you'd have to take them away all across the world, because otherwise they could be smuggled in. You'd have to shut down and confiscate all movies even involving gun violence.

And once that's all said and done, you'd just have some other problem to complain about, and go through the same cycle again - eradicating as much as you can, but still having a problem with people who refuse to comply.

There is a colour called grey. It is in between black and white. In fact there are numerous shades of grey. #nowyouknow

[thejazz97]

There is a colour called grey. It is in between black and white. In fact there are numerous shades of grey. #nowyouknow

50 shades, maybe?

Seriously. Grey is where we are now. White is a police state, black is freedom to do literally (and I mean literally) whatever you want. Unless people change, it'll end up as one or the other very soon depending on whether it's a conservative or liberal leader that gets into power.

[Mr. Ambien]

You're a bit too late on the draw there bud.

He's also using the tried and true fantasy argument anti-gun liberals make.. "wild west" "mad max", etc.

Of course, it never materializes, which is why people like him get frustrated when they are ignored by people who make policy and interpret laws. #feelings #outrage

[Hugor Hill]

He's also using the tried and true fantasy argument anti-gun liberals make.. "wild west" "mad max", etc.

Of course, it never materializes, which is why people like him get frustrated when they are ignored by people who make policy and interpret laws. #feelings #outrage

Actually, it is the traditional pro-guns NRA old guys with white hair crowd that's getting ignored, though they aren't ignored enough.

[Mr. Ambien]

Actually, it is the traditional pro-guns NRA old guys with white hair crowd that's getting ignored, though they aren't ignored enough.

Pretty much every court ruling in the last decade says otherwise.

[Hugor Hill]

Pretty much every court ruling in the last decade says otherwise.

Meh. Laws.

[thejazz97]

Meh. Laws.

Where's that thread on the bakers who were fined $135000 for not serving a lesbian couple? I need to put Hugor's quote in that thread.

[Hugor Hill]

Where's that thread on the bakers who were fined $135000 for not serving a lesbian couple? I need to put Hugor's quote in that thread.

You should. It matters not. They are idiots regardless of whether they are fined or not.

[thejazz97]

You should. It matters not. They are idiots regardless of whether they are fined or not.

Calling them idiots doesn't really help the situation any either way.

[Ghostsof1915]

What about escalation?