Dr Green Lawn Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Possibly a deadline deal this season. To Anaheim Dan Hamhuis To Vancouver Shea Theodore Anaheim will be hell bent on winning the cup this season and the addition of Hamhuis would give them a rock solid Defence. We get a future top 4 dman in Theodore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Personally i think that i would want a bit more, but the value is about right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirbs11 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I personally think Hammer will be a deadline trade, and i think it will be between Anaheim and Dallas. Who ever offers up the best package will win. I think Theodore and Honka should be a starting price for both sides and see what else they throw in. Anaheim is in a win now mode it seems, there additions over the last 2 years seems to show they want another cup now. I can see them over paying if the piece they are recieving gives them a better chance to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I'd prefer a 1st+ for Hammer but I'd gladly settle for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_74 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Good Proposal. +1 This is the exact move we need to make to shore up our Defence. Getting Pouliot, Theodore, Bowey or Morrisey for Hamhuis would much better than receiving a late pick. I recently had a dream where Vrbata got traded for Barzal at the Trade Deadline. One can always hope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 This is a great proposal. +1! Bob Murray is hard af to negotiate and he'd figure a way to have this as the utmost value he'd give for a guy like Hammer. Expiring contract, a blue chip dman prospect with all around great game is exactly what we could has plus he's a hometown boy. Theodore > 1st rounder really in terms of development. Then there's also the possibility of retaining Hamhuis July1 like how Vermette did with the Coyotes. Very well done OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I would've rather done Theodore+ for Kesler, but I'd happily settle for this. Theodore is exactly the kind of defenceman we need. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Green Lawn Posted July 13, 2015 Author Share Posted July 13, 2015 I could definatley see it happening. Fowler, Vatanen, Lindholm, Despres.... Not a lot of room for Theodore. Hamhuis would fit in great for Anaheim. They still have 16 mil in cap space at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Specter Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 This is a great proposal. +1! Bob Murray is hard af to negotiate and he'd figure a way to have this as the utmost value he'd give for a guy like Hammer. Expiring contract, a blue chip dman prospect with all around great game is exactly what we could has plus he's a hometown boy. Theodore > 1st rounder really in terms of development. Then there's also the possibility of retaining Hamhuis July1 like how Vermette did with the Coyotes. Very well done OP Nice value-accurate proposal OP! I am banking on this to happen with Hamhuis come July 1st, 2016. From a fan perspective, it's usually a pipe-dream for a player to come back to an organization so quickly after getting acclimated in a new locker room and city but it gives us hope when another NHLer like Vermette achieves what he set out to do with the trade and then comes back to the organization and city that feels right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 yes please. Hamhuis, Bieksa, Kesler winning the cup would be great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 There is no way the Ducks do this trade. You aren't getting a prospect like Theodore for a handful of games of Hamhuis. The Ducks will likely offer a 1st + B prospect but anything higher is likely not happening. At this point keeping Theodore is advantageous to the Ducks, they can start him off on the bottom pairing and challenge him to earn his way up the depth chart. He is a cost controlled asset who become handy in case a player like Vatanen demands a big raise on his next contract. You don't throw away an asset of Theodore's quality just because you have a surplus at that position. For all you know, he ends up the best of the bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 as much as id love theodore i dont think ducks will give him up for hamhuis unless benning gets him drunk fingers crossed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 There is no way the Ducks do this trade. You aren't getting a prospect like Theodore for a handful of games of Hamhuis. The Ducks will likely offer a 1st + B prospect but anything higher is likely not happening. At this point keeping Theodore is advantageous to the Ducks, they can start him off on the bottom pairing and challenge him to earn his way up the depth chart. He is a cost controlled asset who become handy in case a player like Vatanen demands a big raise on his next contract. You don't throw away an asset of Theodore's quality just because you have a surplus at that position. For all you know, he ends up the best of the bunch. Teams that are serious to win now have the flexibility to do deals like this and they happen every year. This isn't a long shot at all and is very realistic from both teams perspective. Ducks have a short window to win it again. Hamhuis is one of the most reliable dmen you can get. He helps the Ducks in the now. Theodore in the future. Murray would take that offer 9/10 considering he wants to win. Plus with all the young dmen already on that team (Fowler, Lindholm, Vatanen, Despres), that's enough to last a decade. Theodore is very much expendable and not just because the Ducks can but because it would make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Teams that are serious to win now have the flexibility to do deals like this and they happen every year. This isn't a long shot at all and is very realistic from both teams perspective. Ducks have a short window to win it again. Hamhuis is one of the most reliable dmen you can get. He helps the Ducks in the now. Theodore in the future. Murray would take that offer 9/10 considering he wants to win. Plus with all the young dmen already on that team (Fowler, Lindholm, Vatanen, Despres), that's enough to last a decade. Theodore is very much expendable and not just because the Ducks can but because it would make sense. Not really no. No one trades a prospect like Theodore for handful of games of Hamhuis. Rentals do not command a piece like that and I do not expect the Ducks to break all precedent and make a trade like this. Murray would decline this offer 10/10, because he isn't so desperate to massively overpay a divisional rival. Can you name one trade under the current CBA where a rental was traded for a blue chip prospect? It just does not happen. This proposal is simply wishful thinking. The Canucks will probably get a return similar to Sekera. A 1st and a decent prospect. The Ducks will keep Theodore and make a hockey trade involving one of their young defenseman. Whether that will be Theodore or another player remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHitman Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Depends on the type of season Hamhuis has, hopefully good enough that we can get Theodore and a 1st out of Anaheim... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrChill Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 If they aren't planning on resigning him, this is a good move, like a later pick included as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Hamhuis + Prust for Theodore and a 2nd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyhee Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Do the Ducks actually have any need for a left-handed d-man? They've got Fowler, Lindholm, and Despres, who are very good, very young and reasonably priced. Assuming that Fowler and Lindholm, take the top 2 spots with Despres playing the right side and that they just got Bieksa to replace Beauchemin as RHD on the 2nd pairing (and gave him a no-move clause in a 2 year extension) is getting a really good older d-man for their 3rd pairing really worth parting with Theodore? Hamhuis would be a big upgrade on Stoner on the 3rd pairing and would give the Ducks a really good d-man to play on top 2 pairs in case of injury, but I question whether that is enough for Anaheim to part with Theodore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Do the Ducks actually have any need for a left-handed d-man? They've got Fowler, Lindholm, and Despres, who are very good, very young and reasonably priced. Assuming that Fowler and Lindholm, take the top 2 spots with Despres playing the right side and that they just got Bieksa to replace Beauchemin as RHD on the 2nd pairing (and gave him a no-move clause in a 2 year extension) is getting a really good older d-man for their 3rd pairing really worth parting with Theodore? Hamhuis would be a big upgrade on Stoner on the 3rd pairing and would give the Ducks a really good d-man to play on top 2 pairs in case of injury, but I question whether that is enough for Anaheim to part with Theodore. Agreed that Lindholm is very solid and both he and Fowler already do play more than 20 mins. per game in their top 4. Despres can easily play the 3rd pairing (gosh the more I write the more jealous I am of that team...). Unless Anaheim's really looking to load up for a run (not like they even need to) in order to ensure a championship I don't see Hammer going there, but I could easily be wrong. If 1st + prospect/ Theodore/ Despres(?) come back that's a win for a pending UFA in my books. I think Hammer ends up in Dallas actually. Nemeth and Jordie Benn, though both NHL-caliber defensive D-men, are likely ready to stop the bleeding that cost the Stars the playoffs last season. Hammer just might be that big-minute guy who allows the other guys to play their roles well and not get overextended. Hammer - Klingberg Goligoski - Demers That's really solid. Maybe we could get one of Oleksiak/ Jokipakka, along with their 1st (going off of the Vermette and Sekera returns)? Hope we can get more (I'd want Dickinson as part of the deal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Good proposal, Hamhuis puts that team over the top for sure, they have no room for Theodore anyway and we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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