Heretic Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 I wonder why it took so long for someone to take out the shooter? (CNN)[breaking news alert, posted at 4:42 p.m. ET Thursday] The alleged gunman in Thursday's shootings in Chattanooga, Tennessee, was Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez, according to two sources briefed on the case. He was born in 1990, a law enforcement official said. [Previous story, posted at 4:28 p.m. ET Thursday] Four Marines were killed when a gunman attacked two military sites in Chattanooga, Tennessee, on Thursday, the U.S. Navy said. The suspected shooter is also dead, Chattanooga Mayor Andy Berke said. Investigators "have not determined whether it was an act of terrorism or whether it was a criminal act," Ed Reinhold, FBI special agent in charge, told reporters. "We are looking at every possible avenue, whether it was terrorism -- whether it was domestic, international -- or whether it was a simple, criminal act." U.S. Attorney Bill Killian earlier told reporters that authorities were treating the shooting as an "act of domestic terrorism." The shootings unfolded at two sites over 30 minutes, Reinhold said. The suspected gunman started spraying bullets at the glass doors of a strip mall military recruiting center around 10:45 a.m. ET, witnesses said. From there, he headed to another location more than seven miles away, an operational support center operated by the U.S. Navy. That's where the four victims and the gunman were killed, Reinhold said. At least three people were injured, officials said, including a police officer and a military service member. The officer, who was injured when he was shot in the ankle, has been treated at the hospital, Berke said. A military service member was also among the wounded, the Defense Department said. 'It was very loud and very fast' "Today was a nightmare for the city of Chattanooga. ... We had someone viciously attack, at two different locations, people who proudly serve our country," Berke said. Gina Mule, a server at a restaurant, said she saw a man who'd been in a silver convertible Mustang, firing a "high-powered rifle" at the recruiting offices at about 10:50 a.m. She said she first heard "Pow, pow, pow!" She then went to a window, through which she said she saw the man firing shots. "I don't know how many shots he fired, but it was a lot," she said. Shootings were reported Thursday at a naval reserve center and a military recuiting center in Chattanooga, Tennessee. EXPAND IMAGE A second witness, April Grimmett, said she was working at a hair salon near the recruiting center when she looked out a window and saw a man ducking in between cars. "Shortly after that, we heard the (shots). It was very loud and very fast," Grimmett said, without saying what happened to the man she had seen. A photo that she took shows glass doors damaged by the gunfire. April Grimmett says she took this photo showing damage to glass at the military recruiting center on Lee Highway in Chattanooga. EXPAND IMAGE "I could not believe how many bullet holes were in that door. It was insane," she said. Fred Wright, a salesman at a nearby auto parts store, told CNN that after he heard gunshots, three people ran into the shop, hollering they thought "someone was shooting at them." Wright said he called 911. "Sounded like it was 30, 40 shots to me," Wright said, adding that he never saw a shooter. Mayor decries 'horrific' shooting "Horrific incident in our community," Berke, the mayor, tweeted. "We will release details as they are confirmed. Prayers to all those affected." http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/16/us/tennessee-naval-reserve-shooting/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 I wonder why it took so long for someone to take out the shooter? He was playing hard to get before he finally said yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 RIP everyone involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 I turn on the news every morning pretty much expecting to hear about a shooting. Today was one of those days.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Condolences go out to the affected ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksPatsFan Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Did the shooter have mental health problems or were they a terrorist? I mean, what ethnicity was the shooter? They've shot and killed him, surprised his details aren't out. Guess I kind of answered my own question, probably mental health problems since the media isn't blasting his name out there. Edit: Just saw his name, guess he's a terrorist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Did the shooter have mental health problems or were they a terrorist? I mean, what ethnicity was the shooter? They've shot and killed him, surprised his details aren't out. Guess I kind of answered my own question, probably mental health problems since the media isn't blasting his name out there. Edit: Just saw his name, guess he's a terrorist. Probably. Those are the types of targets they've stated they're after recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dittohead Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 I wonder why it took so long for someone to take out the shooter? Marines are unarmed at recruitment centres. This will change. Also guys name was Muhummad so you know he's mental and a terrorist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Proof Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Did the shooter have mental health problems or were they a terrorist? I mean, what ethnicity was the shooter? They've shot and killed him, surprised his details aren't out. Guess I kind of answered my own question, probably mental health problems since the media isn't blasting his name out there. Edit: Just saw his name, guess he's a terrorist. Terrorism: the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims. Not every shooting is an act of terrorism, a high school kid shooting up a school is not politically motivated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realtor Rod Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Terrorism or not, his name and skin colour are going to have the confederates out in full force. I can't believe there are not armed guards at the recruitment facilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakanucks Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Except all the victims were killed at the 2nd site, the operational support centre. What exactly is an Operational Support Centre? I also wonder why he didn't kill the people at the recruitment centre? Was there too many bystanders? So he had a grudge on US military? So many questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer4now Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Did the shooter have mental health problems or were they a terrorist? I mean, what ethnicity was the shooter? They've shot and killed him, surprised his details aren't out. Guess I kind of answered my own question, probably mental health problems since the media isn't blasting his name out there. Edit: Just saw his name, guess he's a terrorist. Marines are unarmed at recruitment centres. This will change. Also guys name was Muhummad so you know he's mental and a terrorist Please tell me you two aren't serious.. Otherwise your're a dittohead.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Strangelove Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Except all the victims were killed at the 2nd site, the operational support centre.What exactly is an Operational Support Centre? I also wonder why he didn't kill the people at the recruitment centre? Was there too many bystanders? So he had a grudge on US military? So many questions. The Navy Operational Support Center (NOSC) is a component facility of the Navy Reserve Center. As such, it is similar to other U.S. military reserve centers, but mission differences between the armed services reserve programs result in facility differences that are not addressed on this page. NOSCs provide operational, training, and administrative support to the Navy Reserve mission to provide mission-capable units and individuals to the Navy's active duty component throughout the full range of operations during peacetime and war. The facility accommodates full-time command and administrative staff and reservists during drill weekends. While it is primarily occupied by military personnel, the NOSC also performs a recruitment function and serves certain family and retiree needs. As the operational headquarters of the resident units, the NOSC design should venerate the naval military and convey the history and significance of the units. NOSCs can also be included as part of an Armed Forces Reserve Center, which serves two or more military service reserve programs. In those instances, the NOSC components must be carefully incorporated into the overall facility to ensure critical functions and adjacency are maintained. Sorry for the long copy/paste but I didnt know how to define it myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeefcakeBo Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Please tell me you two aren't serious.. Otherwise your're a dittohead.. You expect that people won't assume that someone by the name of Mohammad that shot a bunch of military personnel isn't a terrorist? What rock have you been living under? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer4now Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 You expect that people won't assume that someone by the name of Mohammad that shot a bunch of military personnel isn't a terrorist? What rock have you been living under? So the name Mohammad= terrorist 99% of the time.. Good one. Might as well say the name Tyrone= crime OR the name Cletus= redneck Give your head a shake. He's only a terrorist if he belongs to a said group or is doing it for political means. He could just be some nut job with a gun like that other shooter. People need to stop throwing the word terrorist without first having some facts or context. Again I haven't read any new details so he could be a terrorist, but just by his name and who he targeted people shouldn't automatically assume till proven otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 So the name Mohammad= terrorist 99% of the time.. Good one. Might as well say the name Tyrone= crime OR the name Cletus= redneck Give your head a shake. He's only a terrorist if he belongs to a said group or is doing it for political means. He could just be some nut job with a gun like that other shooter. People need to stop throwing the word terrorist without first having some facts or context. Again I haven't read any new details so he could be a terrorist, but just by his name and who he targeted people shouldn't automatically assume till proven otherwise. All that's been said is, and yes, all over the news, that this is being treated like a domestic terrorism case until proven otherwise. Not much in the way of facts, other than it was a naturalized person from Kuwait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComptonCanuck Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 u all racist. islam religion of peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 u all racist. islam religion of peace Like the Pax Romana? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeefcakeBo Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 So the name Mohammad= terrorist 99% of the time.. Good one. Might as well say the name Tyrone= crime OR the name Cletus= redneck Give your head a shake. He's only a terrorist if he belongs to a said group or is doing it for political means. He could just be some nut job with a gun like that other shooter. People need to stop throwing the word terrorist without first having some facts or context. Again I haven't read any new details so he could be a terrorist, but just by his name and who he targeted people shouldn't automatically assume till proven otherwise. Obviously this is an overly sensitive topic for you, but judging by the information presented so far, this is a case of terrorism unless you can somehow prove otherwise. 99% of the time a civilian attacks a government or military target it's for political reasons. Add that to the fact that this guy is named Mohammed and isn't an american, I'd say with 99.9% certainty that it's a terrorist attack. You need to give your head a shake if you think somehow that it isn't likely this guy is a terrorist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer4now Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 All that's been said is, and yes, all over the news, that this is being treated like a domestic terrorism case until proven otherwise. Not much in the way of facts, other than it was a naturalized person from Kuwait. You know cdc is fracked up when Mr. Ambien is the voice of reason.. Jk lol But I agree with you. u all racist. islam religion of peace Islam isn't a race so.. And where do people get this nonsense it's a religious of peace.. It never claims to be and in fact Islam means to submit.. I see that lame saying all the time.. Obviously it's not a peaceful religion. Obviously this is an overly sensitive topic for you, but judging by the information presented so far, this is a case of terrorism unless you can somehow prove otherwise. 99% of the time a civilian attacks a government or military target it's for political reasons. Add that to the fact that this guy is named Mohammed and isn't an american, I'd say with 99.9% certainty that it's a terrorist attack. You need to give your head a shake if you think somehow that it isn't likely this guy is a terrorist. Lol I am not Muslim so it's not really a sensitive topic for me.. you could say I am basically the equivalent of the CDC user "taxi" but except I care about the whole Middle East and not just Israel... If you re-read my post again I don't deny he could be a terrorist as he probably is one.. IMO all I am trying to say it's wrong to automatically label someone a terrorist just based on their name when the context or information about the individual is lacking.. Especially earlier on during a crime like this. I have no problem him being labelled a terrorist as the facts are probably out by now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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