Realtor Rod Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I'm part Mexican, and unfortunately its a fact that a great many Mexican illegals are rapists, gang members and thieves. It may not be PC to say it but it is a major problem in some regions. It seems like common sense that the doctors,surgeons,teachers etc are not the ones illegally migrating to the US. Higher likelihood that it is people hiding from something or running from their circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer4now Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I'm part Mexican, and unfortunately its a fact that a great many Mexican illegals are rapists, gang members and thieves. It may not be PC to say it but it is a major problem in some regions.lol wut.. So because you're part Mexican you have some moral authority or judgment to make that outrageous statement? Its like those people who say they can make Native jokes because there like 1/4 native or often times less than that.. Long story short it doesn't work like that. Also what bothers me about Trump and his rant on Mexicans is why is he only targeting that specific group? and not the other group (blacks) that are notoriously but stereotypically associated with these crimes and happen to live domestically in the U.S... Seems like he's putting his odds on one minority because he can't get support from both.. Risky move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I'm part Mexican, and unfortunately its a fact that a great many Mexican illegals are rapists, gang members and thieves. It may not be PC to say it but it is a major problem in some regions. What exactly is your make-up? I believe I recall you saying you were also part black in another thread. Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 What exactly is your make-up? I believe I recall you saying you were also part black in another thread. Just curious. Part Lab and part Chihuahua is my guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Well Trump was just captured being stoopid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soshified Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Donald Trump is a legend. He's the USA's only hope at this point. Any argument calling him a "loser" for not going to war is dumb. Guy wouldn't likely have been a billionaire if he went to that useless war, or alive at all.#TRUMP2016 Can CDC hire a better troll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Can CDC hire a better troll? Cap considerations. But some of us are hoping that a trade can be worked out with Calgarypuck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 "This along with the Mexican government who purposefully send over their worst criminals for America to deal with" Do you have a non-Fox news link to back this claim up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Also what bothers me about Trump and his rant on Mexicans is why is he only targeting that specific group? and not the other group (blacks) that are notoriously but stereotypically associated with these crimes and happen to live domestically in the U.S... Seems like he's putting his odds on one minority because he can't get support from both.. Risky move Deal with a problem from the outside before you deal with one inside... If your family is having a fight and someone trespasses or even robs the house, do you keep fighting with family or do you stop the guy who's not supposed to be there in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsedin33 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 lol wut.. So because you're part Mexican you have some moral authority or judgment to make that outrageous statement? Its like those people who say they can make Native jokes because there like 1/4 native or often times less than that.. Long story short it doesn't work like that. Also what bothers me about Trump and his rant on Mexicans is why is he only targeting that specific group? and not the other group (blacks) that are notoriously but stereotypically associated with these crimes and happen to live domestically in the U.S... Seems like he's putting his odds on one minority because he can't get support from both.. Risky move You obviously didn't follow the routine or do any homework into the matter. He was talking about illegal immigrants from Mexico, why would he bring up black people who are American citizens and reside there? Whether you like it or not, illegal immigrants, criminals or not, if not documented, are there illegally. Trump is speaking only to the ones who are violent criminals, but technically under the law, all illegal immigrants are criminals because they are there illegally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer4now Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 You obviously didn't follow the routine or do any homework into the matter. He was talking about illegal immigrants from Mexico, why would he bring up black people who are American citizens and reside there? Whether you like it or not, illegal immigrants, criminals or not, if not documented, are there illegally. Trump is speaking only to the ones who are violent criminals, but technically under the law, all illegal immigrants are criminals because they are there illegally. I know he's talking about illegal immigrants, but his basis for throwing them under the bus so to speak could be contributed to other minorities.. The fact he had to single out the Latino minority because of their apparent "problems in society" is wrong.. He should have just said that he wants to halt illegal immigration from Mexico instead of using generalizations not backed by any hard facts. That's my beef.. He's bascially ignoring the crimes of other races or ethnicities to push his own personal agenda of stoping illegal immigration. Essentially he knows that Jeb Bush and someone else? is the most popular by Latinos if they vote republican. Basically throwing all eggs into one basket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I know he's talking about illegal immigrants, but his basis for throwing them under the bus so to speak could be contributed to other minorities.. The fact he had to single out the Latino minority because of their apparent "problems in society" is wrong.. He should have just said that he wants to halt illegal immigration from Mexico instead of using generalizations not backed by any hard facts. That's my beef.. He's bascially ignoring the crimes of other races or ethnicities to push his own personal agenda of stopping illegal immigration. Essentially he knows that Jeb Bush and someone else? is the most popular by Latinos if they vote republican. Basically throwing all eggs into one basket. Again, deal with the problem from the outside world before it damages your chance to deal with in-house issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsedin33 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I know he's talking about illegal immigrants, but his basis for throwing them under the bus so to speak could be contributed to other minorities.. The fact he had to single out the Latino minority because of their apparent "problems in society" is wrong.. He should have just said that he wants to halt illegal immigration from Mexico instead of using generalizations not backed by any hard facts. That's my beef.. He's bascially ignoring the crimes of other races or ethnicities to push his own personal agenda of stoping illegal immigration. Essentially he knows that Jeb Bush and someone else? is the most popular by Latinos if they vote republican. Basically throwing all eggs into one basket. He was using hard facts by the way, they wernt baseless. He was referring to journalists and documentaries he had read and saw in the news, he even gave his references later on when questioned. You can't play the racist card on this one, there are criminals of all types, but he is referring to the immigrants from Mexico in this case, and he had the facts to back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 He was using hard facts by the way, they wernt baseless. He was referring to journalists and documentaries he had read and saw in the news, he even gave his references later on when questioned. You can't play the racist card on this one, there are criminals of all types, but he is referring to the immigrants from Mexico in this case, and he had the facts to back it up. That's the problem with these splashy Trump quotes. The general public hears them in a vacuum and not in the context of the conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etsen3 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 The word you're looking for is "coward". I don't support blowhard Donald Trump, but he furthered his education instead of risking his life in a distant war that likely had no impact on the lives of Americans, then used that education to become a billionaire and create jobs? I respect John McCain's perseverance and service, but if I had that choice, I would take Trump's route every time, whether it's cowardly or not. In fact, I have made that choice and so have plenty of others, even if we may not become rich. The only difference is that nowadays this is entire legal because the government can't force you into risking your life for what may not necessarily be a worthy cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Ignoring that he was saying that in response to McCain calling Trump supporters crazies. Calling Mexicans rapists when he was referring to the cartels that bring people over the border and rape woman as an added cost to being smuggled. This along with the Mexican government who purposefully send over their worst criminals for America to deal with. Most of trumps comments were taken well out of context and used to sell as headlines. Like I said before, Hillary supporter here, but Trump is no fool. lol There's no appropriate context for his remark towards McCain. And it's certainly not appropriate for a draft dodger to call one who actually served his country anything but a hero, let alone one who refused to leave his fellow soldiers behind. I don't really like McCain either but I would never have the audacity to not call him what he is: an American war hero. Trump was foolish enough to feel the need to retract his remarks. The infallible Trump is fallible?? The whole rape thing is regard to women who use it as payment for being smuggled. Trump got called out on that by Lemon. And no, the rest of his comments aren't taken out of context. At least at the time because he literally said what he did. If he misrepresented his point then that's his fault. But out of context or not, his points simply have little to no basis in reality. Ambien tried to argue this crap too. I don't know why - it's a stupid position to take defending a bronzed turd who wouldn't give two shats about you if you paid him. "His claim is that most coming across the border are criminals. Often forced to by the Mexican government. Including those "tremendous infectious disease." Lets see the data, stats, evidence - proof. Otherwise Trump is out to lunch. Also from the Guardian: "The idea that the Mexican government is “forcing their most unwanted people into the United States” also seems to have little basis in reality: in the past year a crackdown by Mexican forces has dramatically reduced the flow of migrants into the US. Meanwhile, migration experts often stress that the migrants prepared to take the considerable risks of heading north tend to be among the most determined, hard-working and ambitious family members."http://www.theguardi...ectious-disease" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsedin33 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 lol There's no appropriate context for his remark towards McCain. And it's certainly not appropriate for a draft dodger to call one who actually served his country anything but a hero, let alone one who refused to leave his fellow soldiers behind. I don't really like McCain either but I would never have the audacity to not call him what he is: an American war hero. Trump was foolish enough to feel the need to retract his remarks. The infallible Trump is fallible?? The whole rape thing is regard to women who use it as payment for being smuggled. Trump got called out on that by Lemon. And no, the rest of his comments aren't taken out of context. At least at the time because he literally said what he did. If he misrepresented his point then that's his fault. But out of context or not, his points simply have little to no basis in reality. Ambien tried to argue this crap too. I don't know why - it's a stupid position to take defending a bronzed turd who wouldn't give two shats about you if you paid him. "His claim is that most coming across the border are criminals. Often forced to by the Mexican government. Including those "tremendous infectious disease." Lets see the data, stats, evidence - proof. Otherwise Trump is out to lunch. Also from the Guardian: "The idea that the Mexican government is “forcing their most unwanted people into the United States” also seems to have little basis in reality: in the past year a crackdown by Mexican forces has dramatically reduced the flow of migrants into the US. Meanwhile, migration experts often stress that the migrants prepared to take the considerable risks of heading north tend to be among the most determined, hard-working and ambitious family members."http://www.theguardi...ectious-disease" His remarks were is response to McCains comments of calling his supporters 'crazies. While Trump is a blow-hard, it was dumb of McCain (especially as he's a paid government employee) to say that about American citizens. Trump had to defend himself and his supporters, so in that context it makes complete sense. A war-hero is not a legally defined term, so really they are just stupidly fighting over a point of view. Trump went somewhat went back on his remarks, albeit super briefly on the O'Reilly show, which he is allowed to do, its a free country and no one is infallible. By definition, everyone who crosses the border illegally is a criminal under the eyes of the law (punishable by up to 6 months in prison), so Trump is technically correct for calling them criminals. I am all for finding a way to help those in need find a better life away from a life of suffering, but technically speaking, Trump is not wrong. I think people support him because he has a hardnosed 'take no prisoners' mentality, but that will end up biting him in the end, and there is no way Trump takes the presidency. Hillary for prez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 His remarks were is response to McCains comments of calling his supporters 'crazies. While Trump is a blow-hard, it was dumb of McCain (especially as he's a paid government employee) to say that about American citizens. Trump had to defend himself and his supporters, so in that context it makes complete sense. A war-hero is not a legally defined term, so really they are just stupidly fighting over a point of view. Trump went somewhat went back on his remarks, albeit super briefly on the O'Reilly show, which he is allowed to do, its a free country and no one is infallible. By definition, everyone who crosses the border illegally is a criminal under the eyes of the law (punishable by up to 6 months in prison), so Trump is technically correct for calling them criminals. I am all for finding a way to help those in need find a better life away from a life of suffering, but technically speaking, Trump is not wrong. I think people support him because he has a hardnosed 'take no prisoners' mentality, but that will end up biting him in the end, and there is no way Trump takes the presidency. Hillary for prez. I agree with pretty much everything here, except... Hillary for prez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMohammadman Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Screw republicans haha. Not that I love za democrats tough either But trump really is fracked up. I don't like bush 3.0, nor anyone else really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electro Rock Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 What exactly is your make-up? I believe I recall you saying you were also part black in another thread. Just curious. French, African American and Mexican mainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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