Zuongo Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Worth 6.5mil. This is how every negotiation goes, gotta start high. Hell even Sbisa probably asked for 5mil originally haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 So, for the purposes of this discussion, that means he was just as solid defensively as Chara/Keith/Doughty? Having to play being Green should make Holtby's stats all the more impressive. The sole purpose of discussion was Norris calibre defencemen. You didn't realize that green was nominated multiple times and I enlightened you. Just helping you out bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amish Rake Fighter Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I had him at #3 for the Olympic team behind Price and Lu know who, he should be at the World Cup next year. Pretty good for the 10th goalie selected in his draft year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamHomer Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Come playoffs, Holtby turns into a beast. I would give him 6 mill per. If Miller makes 6 mill per, then Holtby definitely deserves more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 The sole purpose of discussion was Norris calibre defencemen. You didn't realize that green was nominated multiple times and I enlightened you. Just helping you out bud. No, the sole purpose of the discussion was Braden Holtby's goaltending, which is virtually unaffected by Green's offensive production (other than wins, potentially). And sorry to say, I already knew he was nominated. But obviously not for the reasons pertaining to this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 here is the extent of my discussion.... I read your post and thought I would throw you a bone and let you know that you were a little off base. without having any Chara/Keith/Doughty perennial Norris stud to play behind. i merely stated a fact... to be fair green was nominated for the Norris twice. Then you changed your opinion to "solid defensively" So, for the purposes of this discussion, that means he was just as solid defensively as Chara/Keith/Doughty? Having to play being Green should make Holtby's stats all the more impressive. once again I had never commented on Holtby or Greens defensive prowess one way or another. the sole purpose of my discussion was the fact that green was nominated for a Norris perennially. Sorry for nit picking I tend to do it from time to time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Soldier Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/braden-holtby-asks-for--8-million-per-season-in-arbitration-140929739.html This is pretty hilarious, quite honestly. I think he knows he won't ever get the 8 million but doing something so absurd is a surefire way to sour your relationship with your current team. Because the arbitration process in which a team has to explain to a third party why paying a player less than said player thinks they deserve is completely healthy to the relationship. Tit for tat, squire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 sign for 1 year at 5 mill then bolt for the free agent market and let the bidding begin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzam Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 If Miller makes 6 mill per, then Holtby definitely deserves more. Ufa and rfa, different story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguez Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 The sole purpose of discussion was Norris calibre defencemen. You didn't realize that green was nominated multiple times and I enlightened you. Just helping you out bud. Did he win the Norris? Nope. Not Norris calibre then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I'd give him 6 mill per year 8 million is too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papayas Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Did he win the Norris? Nope. Not Norris calibre then. did Doughty win the Norris? why is he on D-Money's list of Norris stud? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 did Doughty win the Norris? why is he on D-Money's list of Norris stud? I think D-Money's point, which shouldn't even require any discussion as it's crystal clear, is that Green is primarily an offensive defenseman who is not known to be responsible or difficult to play against in his own end. His "Norris" seasons, which were astounding offensively, should have been enough to win. However, his questionable defensive play came (and always has) into question. As for Doughty, a two time Olympian and two time Stanley Cup Champion, most people know he's one of the best on both sides of the ice. I understand that people love to have the last word over the internet (and in general) and also love to argue over semantics. But to keep things simple, Holtby put up terrific numbers behind an absolutely sub-par defensive unit. No person alive would consider Green a "defense first" guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papayas Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I think D-Money's point, which shouldn't even require any discussion as it's crystal clear, is that Green is primarily an offensive defenseman who is not known to be responsible or difficult to play against in his own end. His "Norris" seasons, which were astounding offensively, should have been enough to win. However, his questionable defensive play came (and always has) into question. As for Doughty, a two time Olympian and two time Stanley Cup Champion, most people know he's one of the best on both sides of the ice. I understand that people love to have the last word over the internet (and in general) and also love to argue over semantics. But to keep things simple, Holtby put up terrific numbers behind an absolutely sub-par defensive unit. No person alive would consider Green a "defense first" guy. fair enough.. I was just arguing for the sake of arguing ~ I know Green is not Doughty :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 And to think that some folks here thought $5.3 mil cap was too high for an elite goalie... Except if you subtract the final 3 years of Luongo's contract, the salary hit would have been around $6.5 million per. Considering the cap was approximately 65 million, he would have consumed 10% of the cap. His previous contract was $7+ million when the cap was even lower. Holtby will probably get $6.5, and with the cap at $71, he will still be earning less than Luongo ratio-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Except if you subtract the final 3 years of Luongo's contract, the salary hit would have been around $6.5 million per. Considering the cap was approximately 65 million, he would have consumed 10% of the cap. His previous contract was $7+ million when the cap was even lower. Holtby will probably get $6.5, and with the cap at $71, he will still be earning less than Luongo ratio-wise. He's still "consuming" $800,000 of our cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Signed 5 Year 30.5 Mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Specter Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 SportsCentreVerified account@SportsCentre JUST IN: @washcaps sign @Holts170 to a five-year, $30.5 million contract extension. 12:05 PM - 24 Jul 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Seems fair to me. Going rate for legitimate starters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Except if you subtract the final 3 years of Luongo's contract, the salary hit would have been around $6.5 million per. Considering the cap was approximately 65 million, he would have consumed 10% of the cap. His previous contract was $7+ million when the cap was even lower. Holtby will probably get $6.5, and with the cap at $71, he will still be earning less than Luongo ratio-wise. But why do that? Did we count 5.3 cap hit when we rode him to the finals and got extra space to fit a guy like higgy or lappy? It was 5.3 cap hit and that's all that mattered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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