nergish Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Exactly Yeah, but based on last season's sample, that's like saying "if Seguin and Benn continue to have good chemistry..." Gaudreau is an Allstar. He's not going to regress. He'll be a thorn in the sides of Canucks fans for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowgary Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Yeah, but based on last season's sample, that's like saying "if Seguin and Benn continue to have good chemistry..." Gaudreau is an Allstar. He's not going to regress. He'll be a thorn in the sides of Canucks fans for years. He'll be a thorn in the side of many teams, Horvat might be a thorn in the side of Calgary to the same degree in time. As time progresses, teams will be better prepared for his tendencies. Calgary is a middle of the pack team on the rise, nothing more. In 3 yrs from now, we might have as many kids in the lineup as the Flames do presently. I'm just not sold on the Flames yet, they will have their hands full with the Oilers the next few years, just like we will, and I do like our prospects, so the future looks bright in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 He'll be a thorn in the side of many teams, Horvat might be a thorn in the side of Calgary to the same degree in time. As time progresses, teams will be better prepared for his tendencies. Calgary is a middle of the pack team on the rise, nothing more. In 3 yrs from now, we might have as many kids in the lineup as the Flames do presently. I'm just not sold on the Flames yet, they will have their hands full with the Oilers the next few years, just like we will, and I do like our prospects, so the future looks bright in my eyes. I sorta expect the flames to have a regression year like the Avalanche did. I think I remember hearing that Calgary's advanced stats weren't very good much like Colorado's 2 years ago. Course we'll see how things go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPatrick33 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Man some people are overrating the flames already...they got dominated by the ducks, I do not see them being a playoff stalwart yet. Let's see how they play now that they are expected to do something, being the underdog you have no pressure and is probably why they were able to come back so many times last year. I remember the avalanche had a similar year, then last year they returned to normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soshified Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Maybe not next year, but very soon.. They beat us remember. The Calgary fricken flames beat us think about that for a sec. They beat us, but it's not like they dominated us. Yes, Flames are good. But IMO, Canucks beat themselves last playoffs. Remember the games that Canucks won? They played great and shut down Calgary's best. But with a goalie that let in quite a few, a defence that was soft and coughed up the pucks, and an offence that couldn't show up besides two 34 year olds and a 19 year old... We were bound to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 It is true Calgary is in a much better position than us. Both Monahan and Gaudreau are young and already bona fide first liners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl's Jn Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Lol, love how much of an effect Ferland had on this fan base. He is a useless player when he can't charge. EDIT: Actually, "useless" is a little much, but he is definitely not something we need an "answer" to. You know who we need an answer to? Sam Bennett and Dougie Hamilton he can charge us because we don't skate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonny_Bohonos_14 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 As both Calgary and Winnipeg were brought up, I'll comment as a Winnipeger. Only way Winnipeg even looks at doing this is if Carolina retains salary. The Jets are currently not a cap team and are already in the midst of trying to work out both a Ladd extension and a Byfuglien extension. The lack of a deal so far doesn't have to do with lack of cap space, but more with Chevy not wanting to overpay two players at 29 and 30 years old respectively; especially with Trouba, Scheifele, and Lowry set to become RFAs next season, who will all need increases in salary. So, with the Jets facing said salary issues with the above 5 players (two UFAs and three RFAs), Skinner coming in would be at a retained salary. Long story short, I don't see a fit. I wonder if Carolina would be interested in a Buff/Skinner swap? Other pieces would have to be included as well, but it's something to ponder if Winnipeg doesn't think Buff will sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I'm surprised how many people on here underestimate Calgary. You guys are going to look pretty dumb this season. Don't forget they beat us without their best defenseman Gio and some other key players. They also added Hamilton who is better than any defender we have and all their young guys will be a year older and be even better. and you were probably thinking the same thing about Colorado last year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Gaudreau is an elite rookie, yes. Whenever a young player is even nominated for the Calder is means they are something special. Now with that said, by no means is it any different when Iginla was there. Gaudreau has a better supporting cast, but in the end the Perry's and Kopitar's of the league are much scarier. All I'm saying is Calgary might be better than us for the first time in years, but it's not saying much considering the other teams in our conference. Gaudreau can be handled. Personally out of anybody on that roster, the Monahan/Hudler duo scares me more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 That said, I don't think Skinner helps them very much. He's pretty much like Gaudreau. And if Gaudreau's career path is anything like Skinner's, he's a hit or two away from being a career 30 point player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 That said, I don't think Skinner helps them very much. He's pretty much like Gaudreau. And if Gaudreau's career path is anything like Skinner's, he's a hit or two away from being a career 30 point player. They need size in top 6 Actually- Kassian would have been a good experiment for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I wonder if Carolina would be interested in a Buff/Skinner swap? Other pieces would have to be included as well, but it's something to ponder if Winnipeg doesn't think Buff will sign. Just to clarify, Byfuglien and the Jets want to get a deal done. It's not a matter of Byfuglien not wanting to sign, it's whether the Jets want to dish out that amount, when they have Trouba and Myers signed for less and are younger. The Jets record without Byfuglien was 9-3-3 last year. Small sample size, but there is evidence to show that he may not be as needed as originally thought. Also, and I don't have this available ATM, but the Jets record with Byfuglien playing forward vs. defense was also better. So perhaps the Jets parting ways and getting a forward is the right move. Now, as for a Buff/Skinner swap. I'm both a huge Buff and Skinner fan, so part of me would be interested to see what Skinner can do in Winnipeg, particularly if they are unable (or choose not) to extend Ladd. Having Skinner as an "ace up the sleeve" for a backup plan is certainly a smart move. However, his injury history and current salary tag are questionable. Either the Canes would have to add something else in, or retain a little bit of Skinner's salary (but not much). Long story short, as much as I like Buff, it's in the best interest of the Jets at this point to sell high, especially with Trouba and Myers already in the fold. They do need a forward, and particularly a winger. So there may be something here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420since1974 Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 What key players besides Giordano? Lance Bouma had a broken hand from blocking a shot and did not play at all. Sean Monahan (back-cross check) and Jiri Hudler (wrist - slash) were both injured by Robyn Regher in the last Los Angles game just prior to the play-offs, and were playing at 60% of their capabilities at best. Michael Ferland (back) injured himself while checking Hamuis in the last game of the Canucks series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua59 Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 The flames werent going to suck forever, many years of great drafting and smart trades has made them pretty good team. It wouldn't surprise me if we get sweeped in the season series this upcoming season. Goaltending is an issue in Calgary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420since1974 Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Calgary is overpaying ($8.3M total) for Jonas Hiller & Kari Ramo (both average NHL goaltenders). However, the Flames arguably have 5 Top 4 defense-men playing in front of them, so I don't think it will be much of an issue. Joni Orito will be in the NHL by 2016/2017, so one of Hiller/Ramo (both will be UFAs) will be gone by the end of this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nooks Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Calgary had the second highest shooting percentage of all NHL teams last year. They also has the third lowest number of shots next to Buffalo and New Jersey. The cup winners took 500 more shots and only scored 17 more goals. Not going to happen again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Calgary had the second highest shooting percentage of all NHL teams last year. They also has the third lowest number of shots next to Buffalo and New Jersey. The cup winners took 500 more shots and only scored 17 more goals. Not going to happen againThe Fraudreau Train must roll on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeslerPlaysLikeACanadian Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 He'll be a thorn in the side of many teams, Horvat might be a thorn in the side of Calgary to the same degree in time. As time progresses, teams will be better prepared for his tendencies. Calgary is a middle of the pack team on the rise, nothing more. In 3 yrs from now, we might have as many kids in the lineup as the Flames do presently. I'm just not sold on the Flames yet, they will have their hands full with the Oilers the next few years, just like we will, and I do like our prospects, so the future looks bright in my eyes. I think the Flames look absolutely great right now, and I think they are 50/50 to make the playoffs. That's where about 10 teams in the West stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeslerPlaysLikeACanadian Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Lance Bouma had a broken hand from blocking a shot and did not play at all. Sean Monahan (back-cross check) and Jiri Hudler (wrist - slash) were both injured by Robyn Regher in the last Los Angles game just prior to the play-offs, and were playing at 60% of their capabilities at best. Michael Ferland (back) injured himself while checking Hamuis in the last game of the Canucks series. Hahaha. Sweet justice. The man with the license to crosscheck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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