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Let's talk about the muzzling of scientists. If you vote Harper, you are anti-science. Discuss.

Not necessarily. The "muzzling" of scientists is not good. But there may be more important things than that to other people. If it is important to you, vote for who you think will change it for the better.

Same with abortion.

Same with oil.

Same with the environment.

Same with the senate.

Same with retirement income.

Et cetera.

Et cetera.

Et cetera.

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https://ca.news.yahoo.com/conservative-candidate-touts-therapies-turn-gay-youth-straight-191942174.html

I don't even...

OTTAWA A Conservative candidate in suburban Toronto is defending therapies that attempt to turn gays straight, having penned an editorial that referred to homosexuality as "unnatural behaviour" and heterosexuals as "normal."

Jagdish Grewal, running in Mississauga-Malton, wrote an editorial in the Punjabi Post earlier this year entitled, "Is it wrong for a homosexual to become a normal person?"

He describes an NDP private member's bill passed in the Ontario legislature in June that removed public funding for services designed to "change or direct the sexual orientation or gender identity of a patient."

Grewal writes in the piece that some psychologists blame a "shock" during childhood for causing a person to become gay, but that the change "can be corrected."

"The political competition of today raises the question of whether any person's wish to become a normal person is wrong?" Grewal wrote in Punjabi.

"If it is a parent's right to set guidelines for their children in terms of their education, career and health, then why is it illegal for them to strengthen their natural heterosexuality?"

Grewal said in an interview Tuesday that he was attempting to educate readers about an issue in the news and lay out the positions taken by the provincial parties and psychologists. He said he did not recall the names of the psychologists he mentioned.

In the editorial, he points to the Alliance for Therapeutic Choice and Scientific Integrity, an American group that offers therapies to people who have "unwanted homosexual attractions."

"Yes, there's children who have tendencies, who are attracted," Grewal said in the interview. "If that child wants to come back or tell the parents that he wants to get out of this life, then parents should have the right to bring them back to their straight life."

Grewal's editorial does not address professional criticism of so-called reparative or conversion therapies. The Canadian Pediatric Society's position on adolescent sexual orientation states that such treatments "should not be provided because they do not work and have the potential to heighten guilt and anxiety."

High-profile Ontario Progressive Conservatives supported the private member's bill when it came to a vote.

Grewal is running against Liberal Navdeep Bains, a former MP who is also an organizer for the party in the Toronto area.

A campaign pamphlet recently spotted in the riding, with the fine print, "Authorized by the official agent for Jagdish Grewal," features a picture of Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau and Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne at the Toronto Pride parade. The slogan reads, "Are these the priorities of your family?"

In another picture, a piece of paper is superimposed onto Bains' hand. The paper reads "Liberal priorities: Sex Education, Gay Marriage, Legalize Marijuana and Prostitution."

Grewal says the flyer is not from his campaign.

There has been opposition to the Ontario government's new sexual education curriculum from within some ethnic communities. The new content addresses sexual orientation and gender identity and homophobia. Children in Grade 1 will be taught the correct names of body parts.

Earlier this year, Wynne said she believed the federal Conservatives were using sex ed as a political wedge issue in the province in advance of the election.

Grewal says he's been getting an earful from people in the Muslim, Sikh and Hindu communities upset by the curriculum.

"There are families who are keeping their kids at home, they're not sending them to school they're so frustrated with this," said Grewal. "They don't talk about any other issues. This is their biggest issue at the time at the door."

Bains disagrees, saying people understand that a federal MP has no power to shape a provincial education plan.

"Unemployment is high, higher than the national average, youth unemployment is high and people are worried about the economy, worried about jobs," Bains said of the riding. "Those are the issues that matter."

...con will con...

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I'm sorry jazz but your views are borderline ridiculous. You're 17 and you have early 20th century and 19th century ideas.

In various threads including this one you say we should be run by a king and queen with no rights for the people and now you're are suggesting being gay is a choice?

Do you really think people would choose to be ridiculed and assaulted? You claim you want to be a mp or pm well luck your views are so out of touch it's scary. I can't believe you were born in the late 90's and have these views...

Unless of course you're doing this deliberately to get under people's skin, kinda like what I do with hippy. If it's not the case, wow!

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I'm sorry jazz but your views are borderline ridiculous. You're 17 and you have early 20th century and 19th century ideas.

In various threads including this one you say we should be run by a king and queen with no rights for the people and now you're are suggesting being gay is a choice?

Do you really think people would choose to be ridiculed and assaulted? You claim you want to be a mp or pm well luck your views are so out of touch it's scary. I can't believe you were born in the late 90's and have these views...

Unless of course you're doing this deliberately to get under people's skin, kinda like what I do with hippy. If it's not the case, wow!

Lol. Monarchy? I'd love it, but I've already explained it won't work in today's society. In that case, we make do with what we're given, aka democracy.

But no rights? Dude. People should totally have rights, both human and civil.

And when did I say being gay was a choice?

I do have some personal views that are admittedly a bit different, but I do have a sense of realism too.

I'd like to get back onto the election, if that's okay.

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Btw jazz I can't even type out how ridiculous a monarchy is in 2015. The fact that Canada is still associated with the British Monarchy is absolutely ridiculous.

Canada pays more per capita then any other nation in the commonwealth, it's crazy, we are Canadians in Canada that money should stay at home not go to some overseas corrupt family.

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Lol. Monarchy? I'd love it, but I've already explained it won't work in today's society. In that case, we make do with what we're given, aka democracy.

But no rights? Dude. People should totally have rights, both human and civil.

And when did I say being gay was a choice?

I do have some personal views that are admittedly a bit different, but I do have a sense of realism too.

I'd like to get back onto the election, if that's okay.

When you posted that image of your google searches and in everything you say on this board on the topic.

And why do you want a monarchy? What are the advantages you see?

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Conservatives on a roll.

Yet ANOTHER wtf moment for a Con candidate.

This Conservative Says The Ground Absorbs The Oil From Pipeline Spills

Sabrina Zuniga, a Conservative candidate in Toronto, made a point of mentioning in her interview with CPAC that shes a science teacher.

When asked how shed get young people to vote, she said: I tell them that Im here to champion research and innovation. Again, teaching science and teaching biology and chemistry in high school, this is a natural for me.

Later on in the segment, she talked about pipeline spills. Oil is a natural substance, she said. So spilling into the environment, the land will absorb it because thats what oil is.

Full quote:

"A lot of people would like to see the pipeline get going and go through because it is a safer method than putting them on trains, for instance. And I come back to my interest in technology and innovation. We have the technology and to keep the pipeline safe, to cut off if anything is going to spill. Oil is a natural substance. So spilling into the environment, the land will absorb it because thats what oil is. Its just when there is too much at once, thats when the difficulty comes in."

http://www.buzzfeed.com/emmaloop/this-tory-candidate-says-the-ground-will-just-absorb-the-oil#.tgjOOv37qo

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"Wait, what? The ground absorbs it? Because science? Okay boys, work's done!"

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Conservatives on a roll.

Yet ANOTHER wtf moment for a Con candidate.

Full quote:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/emmaloop/this-tory-candidate-says-the-ground-will-just-absorb-the-oil#.tgjOOv37qo

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"Wait, what? The ground absorbs it? Because science? Okay boys, work's done!"

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F%$k me. I know this woman too.

She is in the same riding with Olivia Chow and Adam Vaughan if I'm not mistaken. So she is not winning any seats.

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Toml you support ndp right?

I guess I see your point when you say conservatives are on a roll. Conservatives are gaining while ndp is falling fast. :)

I support the best chance of getting Harper out and the Reformative party completely destroyed. Putting the Reform Party in power was a mistake. It's time to erase that mistake. If the Liberals win, which was likely until the Ndp shocked Canada and took Alberta, so be it.
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And another wtf Con candidate moment...

Conservative candidate tells voter to renounce heritage over Bill C-24 concerns

A University of Alberta law professor is asking for an apology from a Conservative candidate after he was advised to "renounce his heritage" if he is worried over the impact of the new citizenship law on his children.

When Ubaka Ogbogu recently greeted Edmonton Centre Conservative candidate James Cumming on his doorstep, he was eager to talk about the Strengthening Canadian Citizenship Act, or Bill C-24.

The law allows the federal government to revoke Canadian citizenship from people convicted of terrorism, espionage or treason provided they are also citizens of a second country.

Ogbogu is worried his two young girls, both born in Canada, could be sent to Nigeria, where he was born, if he was ever implicated in a terrorist act or even a less serious crime.

"He really didn't have any response to that," Ogbogu said. "when I pushed him on the fact my daughters would lose their citizenship.

"He then said to me if the law was a concern to me, I should renounce my heritage and I'll be OK," he said. "Those were his exact words.

"I was dumbfounded"

It was something he never expected to hear when he came to Canada 13 years ago, he said.

"It's ridiculous to suggest that a multicultural country in a liberal democracy where people come here and bring their different cultures, different perspectives to make this country great, that he should suggest to me that because some stupid law that's been passed by his government, that I should renounce my heritage."

Ogbogu is asking for an apology.

"I don't think he was expecting to run into a law professor who had read his bills and who knew what he was talking about and would push him about it.

"But it was an unguarded moment of real honesty from him."

James Cumming would not return calls, but his campaign organizers issued a statement saying he stands by Bill C-24.

"Bill C-24 only allows for revocation of citizenship from individuals convicted of the most serious acts of disloyalty to Canada such as terrorism, treason, or waging war against Canada," the statement said.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/conservative-candidate-tells-voter-to-renounce-heritage-over-bill-c-24-concerns-1.3260212

What the Con candidate did was pretty in violation of the Human Rights Act of Canada.

It would seem that Bill C-24 is worse than we could have imagined when it's being used by government officials as a form of 'polite ethnic cleansing.'

The Conservatives make me sick.

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And another wtf Con candidate moment...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/conservative-candidate-tells-voter-to-renounce-heritage-over-bill-c-24-concerns-1.3260212

What the Con candidate did was pretty in violation of the Human Rights Act of Canada.

It would seem that Bill C-24 is worse than we could have imagined when it's being used by government officials as a form of 'polite ethnic cleansing.'

The Conservatives make me sick.

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Well... good news is none of these candidates is going to win any seats. They will cost Harper's the election.

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