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I think the sexuality can go to a different thread. This is about the election. Not the political correctness of how one goes about being gay or straight. Regardless of what your views are or are not.

It's not about political correctness. Most scientific and anthropological evidence, as far as we could tell, suggests that sexuality is biological.

One of the propaganda weapons of choice from conservative people is to attribute scientific truths they do not like as 'political correctness' to make it sound like science is somehow subjective.

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Maybe some people really don't wanna be gay. I see nothing wrong with this therapy. At the end of the day it's still your choice to try this therapy in the first place.

Sure. Just like anyone has the right to try any blood magic or voodoo rituals. But to have someone running for office coming out to support such ridiculousness says how out of touch with reality that person is. And it reflects on the philosophy of the party they represent.

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Put your political correctness aside for one moment and look at reality. One of my best friends growing up was gay, and it was really really really hard on him and his family. Poor bastard tried to kill himself. Some people aren't that strong and it's a possible alternative solution to facing that kinda pain.

Most gay people I know are very happy people.

If they are having a tough life then perhaps it's the environment they are in and the people there, not them.

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Why....why do you people still answer to LB?

I mean seriously he answers with stuff like this and you still try to corner him in to critical debate

Some of you just like to argue I guess

Who cares what I say? This entire thread is full of stubborn narrowly minded people like myself.

We all turn a blind eye to facts that go against our beliefs.

I have posted several reliable news articles that back up the crap that comes from my tapping thumb. It's not like any of you acknowledge it. And it's not like I acknowledge any of your media based opinions either.

Just except me as your brother.

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What?

The guy is concerned that his daughters will be forced to go to Nigeria if he gets convicted of terrorism or some other serious crime. Then he shouldn't commit any of those crimes.

The candidate basically said if you don't like the law, you can leave. Violation of rights? Please.

The candidate went directly to having the man switch heritages instead. Almost everything we've seen during this Conservative campaign has been on the edge of hatespeech propaganda and human rights violations. From their silly taxpayer-funded niqab poll to stir up quebec, to their backward attacks on non-Christian religions, immigrants, the poor, gays, etc. on down. It makes me sick.
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Most gay people I know are very happy people.

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I'm glad you have the power and wisdom to generalize people.

Tell me more about this world? How should I act?

Answer me on a new white noise thread if you must. it is against the rules to discuss such a thing on an unrelated topic and I'm not one to break the rules. I am a conservative.

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I'm glad you have the power and wisdom to generalize people.

Tell me more about this world? How should I act?

Answer me on a new white noise thread if you must. it is against the rules to discuss such a thing on an unrelated topic and I'm not one to break the rules. I am a conservative.

Not generalizing. It's just what they tell me. They have lots of friends. Some of them make very good money. Feel bad for your one friend. But that's just one person. Looks like you are the one generalizing.

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The candidate went directly to having the man switch heritages instead. Almost everything we've seen during this Conservative campaign has been on the edge of hatespeech propaganda and human rights violations. From their silly taxpayer-funded niqab poll to stir up quebec, to their backward attacks on non-Christian religions, immigrants, the poor, gays, etc. on down. It makes me sick.

So, a Nigerian decides to move here 13 years ago, make a good life for himself and his family, and he is concerned about his children losing Canadian citizenship in the event that he commits a terrorist act, or some other serious crime? What does he have planned, I wonder??

The candidate provides this professor with an option that if he doesn't like the law, he can revert back to being Nigerian? Maybe instead of asking for an apology, he can sue for emotional distress or something. The horror!

If this sets you over the edge, you have a hair trigger, sir. This is solely a weak attempt by the professor to complain about the new law, and a typical yellow journalism piece trying to raise this as an issue. I'm not claiming the Cons are all a rosy bunch, but this is an absolute non-issue.

You're only second-class if you want to be. The law looks fine to me, and I'm in a similar boat as this guy, as Canadian is not my first citizenship.

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So, a Nigerian decides to move here 13 years ago, make a good life for himself and his family, and he is concerned about his children losing Canadian citizenship in the event that he commits a terrorist act, or some other serious crime? What does he have planned, I wonder??

The candidate provides this professor with an option that if he doesn't like the law, he can revert back to being Nigerian? Maybe instead of asking for an apology, he can sue for emotional distress or something. The horror!

If this sets you over the edge, you have a hair trigger, sir. This is solely a weak attempt by the professor to complain about the new law, and a typical yellow journalism piece trying to raise this as an issue. I'm not claiming the Cons are all a rosy bunch, but this is an absolute non-issue.

You're only second-class if you want to be. The law looks fine to me, and I'm in a similar boat as this guy, as Canadian is not my first citizenship.

His complaints about the law are valid, of course. The proposed solution by the candidate, renounce your heritage, was not.

How would you like someone to tell you to renounce your heritage? If you cannot see the issue with what the candidate said, then you are blind.

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His complaints about the law are valid, of course. The proposed solution by the candidate, renounce your heritage, was not.

How would you like someone to tell you to renounce your heritage? If you cannot see the issue with what the candidate said, then you are blind.

What's wrong with the law? If you are a dual-citizen (or similar criteria), and are convicted of a terrorist act, you and your family potentially lose citizenship. Pretty cut and dry... Canada doesn't want to house terrorists, and wants the home countries of terrorists to be responsible for them. I have zero issue with that. What problem do you have?

The candidate suggested the guy renounce his adopted heritage. If he doesn't like the Canadian law, he can renounce his new citizenship/heritage and just be Nigerian. I would think that if he loves Canada so much, and doesn't want to be associated with terrorists, then he would appreciate the law for its intent: keeping Canada beautiful by having avenues to get rid of terrorists.

If I thought Canadian laws or society were changing in ways I didn't like, and couldn't see any way to change/fix them, why wouldn't I distance myself from Canada?

Anyhow, my point here is that this was just a weak-ass molehill being masqueraded as some kind of a mountain. Your glasses seem to continue to give you the impression that this is still a mountain. You are entitled to your feelings, but without any other info suggesting that this is some human rights offense as you claimed, it leaves your judgment on what really matters open to question.

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For those of you proclaiming Harper has ruined Canada's reputation...

Congratulations, Canada. You're the world's coolest country again.

The Great White North has been recognized as the world's "most admired" country in a report by the Reputation Institute, recovering the ranking it lost to Switzerland last year.

The institute came up with its rankings by surveying 48,000 people in the world's largest countries by GDP between February and March.

Fernando Prado with the institute told CTV's Canada AM that the country deserves praise for its government, its friendly people and its lack of corruption.

But, he said, it also lags when it comes to having strong brands and being a contributor to global culture.

The institute determines reputations by weighing a series of factors:

  • Effective government (36.9 per cent): This metric examines factors such as whether the country can be considered safe and ethical, and whether it has progressive social and economic policies;
  • Appealing environment (36.1 per cent): This metric looks at whether the country has friendly and welcoming people, is pretty to look at and has an appealing lifestyle;
  • Advanced economy (27.1 per cent): This identifies whether a country delivers high quality services and products, is a "contributor to global culture" and if it has "well-educated and reliable people."

Altogether, Canada had a score of 78.1, just one point over second-place Norway, which had 77.1, and Sweden, which had 76.6.

Canada took the highest score in the report when it came to having an appealing environment, but it was fifth on advanced economy, trailing Japan, Germany, Switzerland and Sweden.

It also came fourth on having an effective government, behind Sweden, Norway and Switzerland.

The country is certainly receiving better news from the Reputation Institute than Toronto did after it dropped out of its top 10 cities last year.

Vancouver and Montreal, meanwhile, both ranked among the top 10.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/07/15/canada-best-reputation-institute_n_7803670.html

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This is farked. A tip line to report on your neighbours.

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com//news/tories-promise-rcmp-tip-line-for-people-to-report-neighbors-for-barbaric-cultural-practices

These guys just deal in fear, I don't know how any actual conservative person could vote for this party.

Oh and there's a video of Kenney, who so staunchly supports this now, a few years ago saying it's no place of the government to tell people what to wear. What happened to that guy?

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Knives are out. The "We're putting this all on Harper" movement continues...

Prime Ministers Office ordered halt to refugee processing

The Prime Ministers Office directed Canadian immigration officials to stop processing one of the most vulnerable classes of Syrian refugees this spring and declared that all UN-referred refugees would require approval from the Prime Minister, a decision that halted a critical aspect of Canadas response to a global crisis.

The Globe and Mail has learned that the Prime Minister intervened in a file normally handled by the Citizenship and Immigration department in the months before dramatic images of a dead toddler brought the refugee crisis to the fore. The processing stop, which was not disclosed to the public, was in place for at least several weeks. It is unclear when it was lifted. At the same time, an audit was ordered of all Syrian refugees referred by the United Nations in 2014 and 2015.

The Prime Ministers Office asked Citizenship and Immigration for the files of some Syrian refugees so they could be vetted by the PMO potentially placing political staff with little training in refugee matters in the middle of an already complex process.

PMO staff could have also had access to files that are considered protected, because they contain personal information, including a refugees health history and narrative of escape, raising questions about the privacy and security of that information and the basis on which it was being reviewed.

As a result of the halt, and the additional layers of scrutiny, families that had fled Syria and were judged by the United Nations refugee agency to be in need of resettlement had to wait longer to find refuge in Canada. It also meant there were fewer cases of UN-referred Syrians approved and ready for sponsorship when the public came forward in large numbers after the drowning death of three-year-old Alan Kurdi in August.

The Prime Ministers Office did not directly respond to a request for comment, nor did it confirm Stephen Harpers involvement.

A spokesman for Citizenship and Immigration Minister Chris Alexander, however, said the government was concerned about the integrity of the system and ensuring that security was not compromised in any way.

The processing of Syrian Government Assisted Refugees resumed only after there was confidence that our procedures were adequate to identify those vulnerable persons in most need of protection while screening out threats to Canada, said Chris Day, spokesman for Mr. Alexander. He noted that processing of privately sponsored refugees, who are not referred by the UN but by their Canadian sponsors and who make up a growing portion of Canadas refugees, continued throughout this period.

Critics have long complained about the centralization of decision-making in the PMO and it would be unusual for a prime minister to sign off on refugee files that have already been vetted by the UN refugee agency, Canadian visa officials and in a small minority of cases by the Canadian Security Intelligence Service and the Canada Border Services Agency.

The opposition parties and refugee advocates have accused the government of being slow to act in the face of the worlds largest refugee crisis in decades. Two weeks ago, the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees called on Canada to do more to aid in the emergency, citing the risk of food shortages and a deterioration in living conditions for Syrian refugees.

More than 2,000 Syrian refugees have died trying to flee the region and half a million have arrived in Europe this year. The Conservatives have pledged to speed up processing to welcome 10,000 refugees by September, 2016, and during the campaign promised to take an additional 10,000 from the region if re-elected.

One of the governments concerns that led to this springs processing halt centred on the hiring of a foreign NGO to screen refugees referred by the UNHCR. The Danish Refugee Council was hired to assist with the processing of refugees from the Syrian crisis. The contract terms have not been disclosed publicly but the council confirms it is working in partnership with Canada. It referred questions to the Canadian government. Why Canada hired a foreign NGO and at what cost is not clear.

Normally, Canada gets its government-assisted refugees referred by the UNHCR, which does its own assessment of the candidates for resettlement before Canada interviews them again, goes through security checks and orders health exams. They are usually among the most vulnerable of all refugees, since the UNHCR can offer resettlement in the West to only about 1 per cent of those displaced around the world. (Privately sponsored refugees can be selected regardless of relative need by family and faith groups in Canada.) Private groups can also sponsor UN-referred refugees as Blended Visa Office Referred cases.

The shutdown in processing potentially threatened Canadas ability to meet its refugee resettlement targets for this year, although after the outcry stirred by photographs of Alan Kurdis body washed up on the shore, the government has provided more resources to process applications.

The department of Citizenship and Immigration said Canada issued visas to only 308 UN-referred refugees from Syria through the first eight months of this year, compared with 1,513 privately sponsored refugees.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/prime-ministers-office-ordered-halt-to-refugee-processing/article26713562/

I believe Harper's gone, win or lose. So who is his replacement going to be? There are a lot of shady candidates and maybe a few decent ones? But as long as the Reformative policies remain, does it matter?

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