The Canadian Election - Liberals Win Majority

[Warhippy]

What a joke. One of my biggest issues with Harper is that we are STILL waiting for promises to be kept from back in 2005-2006. Everything from bridges to infrastructure to education savings.

Every SINGLE election him and his caucus promise the world IF they are re-elected.

Does this sound familiar to you? This is part of his big economic platform. Just wait....you'll see a pattern. Because it is promised...AFTER 2016

Conservative Leader Stephen Harper promised this morning to bring back a home renovation tax credit and make it permanently available to Canadians, arguing it would inject $4.3 billion into the economy.

The $1,000 to $5,000 credit would be worth an average of $700 after it's applied to a homeowner's taxes, according to a news release.

Harper made the announcement in Toronto, alongside Eglinton-Lawrence candidate Joe Oliver, on day 3 of the federal election campaign.

The program would provide a 15 per cent tax credit for renovations or permanent alterations to a dwelling or the land on which it sits, according to background information provided by the Conservatives. The credit would be renewable each year, but wouldn't necessarily come into effect right away because the

Conservatives are making it contingent on the government's finances.

The Conservatives estimate the credit would cost the government $1.5 billion a year.

The Conservatives say three million Canadians took advantage of the credit when it was first introduced in 2009 as a temporary measure.

It was Harper's second economic policy announcement in two days. In Laval, Que., on Monday, he pledged to increase and extend a tax credit for businesses that hire apprentices.

The Conservatives prefer to focus on the economy, and what they say is the NDP and Liberals' inability to manage the Canadian economy.

The NDP and Liberals point to the current downturn to argue the Conservatives have done a bad job of managing it.

[\/ijay]

I just want the conservatives out of power at this point. I still don't know who I am going to vote for. I was originally leaning NDP but these Conservative adds just make me like Trudeau more and more. If anything I think his lack of experience is a plus. I do remember him making separatist comments like 10 years ago though.

[Mr. Ambien]

I just want the conservatives out of power at this point. I still don't know who I am going to vote for. I was originally leaning NDP but these Conservative adds just make me like Trudeau more and more. If anything I think his lack of experience is a plus. I do remember him making separatist comments like 10 years ago though.

Good thing people have the memory of a goldfish otherwise they'd be expecting Trudeau to bury himself in Quebec by now with his separatist comments and Harper majority+reelections.

[Warhippy]

Good thing people have the memory of a goldfish otherwise they'd be expecting Trudeau to bury himself in Quebec by now with his separatist comments and Harper majority+reelections.

Even better that they forget Harper co founded one of the most racist groups in Canadian history

http://www.stopracism.ca/content/stephen-harper-and-his-northern-foundation-past

[Kakanucks]

those Justin Trudeau has no experience job interview ads are so god damn annoying.

Especially the comments made, are so borderline childish, whoever thought this up for the campaign should be fired immediately.

In fact, it makes me want to vote for Trudeau even more.

Currently leaning NDP though, just no Conservative.

BTW, when can we get rid of Christy Clark?

[Mustapha]

I don't know if another government can mess up economic, domestic and foreign policy more than the Harper Conservatives have.

Canada needs to get serious about the future of its people. Forget about the 'threat' or ISIS, or the need for tax breaks for corporations to 'create jobs'.

Trickle down economics doesn't work. Corporations will just keep extra profit from tax breaks and not reinvest it into our own nation's economy.

I was going to vote Liberal, but they aren't going to increase taxes on corporations, which I think is a mistake. The NDP are a better choice IMO when you look at their policy as a whole.

A resource rich nation like Canada needs to use its wealth to bolster it's social system and help Canadians that need it. Governments that are more concerned with corporate profits rather than the wellbeing of their citizens isn't a true government at all.

[Mr.Habitat]

I've voted conservative in the past, but I freel its time for a change. Since its close between the liberals and cons in my richmond riding , I will be voting liberal

[\/ijay]

those Justin Trudeau has no experience job interview ads are so god damn annoying.

Especially the comments made, are so borderline childish, whoever thought this up for the campaign should be fired immediately.

In fact, it makes me want to vote for Trudeau even more.

This is the problem I have, I'm leaning NDP but those ads just make me want to vote for Trudeau.

Seriously, it sounds like 2-3 senile people clinging to the past.

[Heretic]

Be prepared for the onslaught of attack ads. Two plus months worth should be good enough to drive away enough voters for a Conservative majority win.

Yep...that's why I hate election campaigns....all about what you can smear your competitors with instead of telling the voters why we should vote for them.

[Warhippy]

those Justin Trudeau has no experience job interview ads are so god damn annoying.

Especially the comments made, are so borderline childish, whoever thought this up for the campaign should be fired immediately.

In fact, it makes me want to vote for Trudeau even more.

Currently leaning NDP though, just no Conservative.

BTW, when can we get rid of Christy Clark?

iy gets worse. They made an identical one about Mulcair so we get twice the annoyance

[SabreFan1]

Good luck Canada. Let's hope that your political system isn't going to lead up to the same extreme version of political corruption that's seen in the U.S. It will sadden me to see it if it becomes a reality.

Jimmy Carter (frmr. President) said something a few days ago that I've been saying for a long time. The US system is no longer a democracy. It's an Oligarchy.

One of the reasons that the Carter Administration still gets bashed on is because Carter didn't sugar coat his criticisms while he was in office. Although that isn't the only reason. Of course though his comments didn't even get a mention in the mainstream media that are mainly run by the oligarchs that he spoke about.

[Mr. Ambien]

I don't know if another government can mess up economic, domestic and foreign policy more than the Harper Conservatives have.

Canada needs to get serious about the future of its people. Forget about the 'threat' or ISIS, or the need for tax breaks for corporations to 'create jobs'.

Trickle down economics doesn't work. Corporations will just keep extra profit from tax breaks and not reinvest it into our own nation's economy.

I was going to vote Liberal, but they aren't going to increase taxes on corporations, which I think is a mistake. The NDP are a better choice IMO when you look at their policy as a whole.

A resource rich nation like Canada needs to use its wealth to bolster it's social system and help Canadians that need it. Governments that are more concerned with corporate profits rather than the wellbeing of their citizens isn't a true government at all.

This is why you won't get what you want -- the worst thing to do during any economic downturn is increase taxes, on people or businesses. Obviously only someone who has no job or doesn't work in general wouldn't worry about the consequences of what you desire. The other rants like Canada needing to use it's "social system" more is moot, it already does, and the rant about supply side economics is more fit for another country like the US, it has nothing to do with Canada.

If this is the standard belief for the left who will vote Liberal or NDP then it will be another runaway conservative victory.

[Chalky]

I just want the conservatives out of power at this point. I still don't know who I am going to vote for. I was originally leaning NDP but these Conservative adds just make me like Trudeau more and more. If anything I think his lack of experience is a plus. I do remember him making separatist comments like 10 years ago though.

Which comments are you referring to? He did discuss a situation where he may support separation under specific circumstances, is that what you referencing? I don't think he is a separatist at all, but I don't like populist leaders, they are generally fake and I hope he is not going to be one. I just can't bring myself to ever vote NDP, Mulcair is soft and he has literally no talent around him. I feel like the Federal Liberals have moved a little further Left and that pleases me. I also have found the Cons ads are making me like Trudeau more.

[LaBamba]

So to sum up, LITERALLY what you just said

You don't care what the government does as long as corporate taxes stay low and oil is unfettered. The rest can come from the taxpayer who quite frankly you could give two wet sharts about

How very Harper of you

But hey bud, just to clarify, there are almost 40 MILLION more people who NEED the government to act like a government and actually govern, not just act as a liason for a massive multi national corporation.

That's not how things work

So I will ask, knowing what your exact mind set is to just avoid talking to me about this in the future. Anyone who is that single minded cannot be spoken to or reasoned with and I'd rather avoid the headache.

because anyone who cares so very little about what happens to their neighbours and countrymen is not someone I care to speak to.

It is in actuality...actually very American

If you want to reap the benefits of the oilsands then go to Ft Mac and work for it.

Oil is a competitive market, it's a very simple formula for Oil companies. Money invested < money earned = a place to do business. The more you take away from their bottom line the more they subtract from the to do list.

With all the global pressure on oil today a change in government that promises to take a bigger piece of cake will be the breaking point for another tier of economically viable projects.

I am in the middle of this now. I see this on my desk everyday. We are currently trying to slash costs so we can continue to drill. Every little thing makes it harder and harder to drill a well in a $50/bbl environment. The NDP victory in Alberta has already curved our investment into BC and Saskatchewan.

The world needs 95,000,000bbls of oil a day, and we produce about 1,500,000 bbls too much. Where do you think the 1,500,000 bbls will subtracted from? The places that cost the most to drill. The Oil Sands are already at the very top of the list for most expensive proven reserves in the world, probably top 3.

Harper is from the west and understands the business. It's a battle for market share. That is why we need the Keystone, that is why we need to bring down our drilling cost which include Royalties and Corprate taxes. If we do the opposite we will lose our global market share and be cast back into the dark ages of the 80's.

The most important thing to the Canadian economy is oil, this entire election is about how to handle the Oil.

Like I said before, the government needs to do absolutely nothing right now.

[Chalky]

Yep...that's why I hate election campaigns....all about what you can smear your competitors with instead of telling the voters why we should vote for them.

"What's your platform?"

"I'm not the other guy".

[Mr. Ambien]

If you want to reap the benefits of the oilsands then go to Ft Mac and work for it.

Oil is a competitive market, it's a very simple formula for Oil companies. Money invested < money earned = a place to do business. The more you take away from their bottom line the more they subtract from the to do list.

With all the global pressure on oil today a change in government that promises to take a bigger piece of cake will be the breaking point for another tier of economically viable projects.

I am in the middle of this now. I see this on my desk everyday. We are currently trying to slash costs so we can continue to drill. Every little thing makes it harder and harder to drill a well in a $50/bbl environment. The NDP victory in Alberta has already curved our investment into BC and Saskatchewan.

The world needs 95,000,000bbls of oil a day, and we produce about 1,500,000 bbls too much. Where do you think the 1,500,000 bbls will subtracted from? The places that cost the most to drill. The Oil Sands are already at the very top of the list for most expensive proven reserves in the world, probably top 3.

Harper is from the west and understands the business. It's a battle for market share. That is why we need the Keystone, that is why we need to bring down our drilling cost which include Royalties and Corprate taxes. If we do the opposite we will lose our global market share and be cast back into the dark ages of the 80's.

The most important thing to the Canadian economy is oil, this entire election is about how to handle the Oil.

Like I said before, the government needs to do absolutely nothing right now.

Right?

At the moment, the sinking loonie actually represents a blessing in disguise if you ever wanted to bring production back to Canada. People will invest where it's cheaper.

It's laughable right now that anyone's solution to current economic problems would be "tax le corporashuns more!111one", "hike le minimumm wagez". ???? ridiculous.

Our economy is actually worse off than it would seem. Where people have it right with the Harper government ???? up is that they're stimulating the stock market and inflating a housing bubble at the expense of everything else. I would love to see Harper out but there is no viable alternative at the moment. I'll probably be voting across the spectrum again as I vote for people, not parties, but the way it looks is it'll involve mostly a combination of PC and Libertarian.

[LaBamba]

Right?

At the moment, the sinking loonie actually represents a blessing in disguise if you ever wanted to bring production back to Canada. People will invest where it's cheaper.

It's laughable right now that anyone's solution to current economic problems would be "tax le corporashuns more!111one", "hike le minimumm wagez". ???? ridiculous.

Our economy is actually worse off than it would seem. Where people have it right with the Harper government ???? up is that they're stimulating the stock market and inflating a housing bubble at the expense of everything else. I would love to see Harper out but there is no viable alternative at the moment. I'll probably be voting across the spectrum again as I vote for people, not parties, but the way it looks is it'll involve mostly a combination of PC and Libertarian.

People also don't realize that Corprate taxes include ma, and pa businesses, young tradesmen, home daycare, the neighbourhood corner store, the tattoo shop. The word Corporate doesn't translate to multi billion dollar corporation. It includes anyone who has an incorporated business. I have a consulting corp and would be directly effected by this. I'm already in the highest possible tax bracket. Now I gotta dish out even more if the corporate tax increases.

Thanks voters, you sure showed them.

[Warhippy]

If you want to reap the benefits of the oilsands then go to Ft Mac and work for it.

Oil is a competitive market, it's a very simple formula for Oil companies. Money invested < money earned = a place to do business. The more you take away from their bottom line the more they subtract from the to do list.

With all the global pressure on oil today a change in government that promises to take a bigger piece of cake will be the breaking point for another tier of economically viable projects.

I am in the middle of this now. I see this on my desk everyday. We are currently trying to slash costs so we can continue to drill. Every little thing makes it harder and harder to drill a well in a $50/bbl environment. The NDP victory in Alberta has already curved our investment into BC and Saskatchewan.

The world needs 95,000,000bbls of oil a day, and we produce about 1,500,000 bbls too much. Where do you think the 1,500,000 bbls will subtracted from? The places that cost the most to drill. The Oil Sands are already at the very top of the list for most expensive proven reserves in the world, probably top 3.

Harper is from the west and understands the business. It's a battle for market share. That is why we need the Keystone, that is why we need to bring down our drilling cost which include Royalties and Corprate taxes. If we do the opposite we will lose our global market share and be cast back into the dark ages of the 80's.

The most important thing to the Canadian economy is oil, this entire election is about how to handle the Oil.

Like I said before, the government needs to do absolutely nothing right now.

Bottom line is you are failing to diversify and like much of the oil patch want and need OUR tax dollars to remain competitive via subsidies in the form of tax breaks tax cuts money for infrastructure or lower royalties.

wanna know who pays for that.

EVERYONE else.

Screw that bud. YOUR business is YOUR issue not the rest of us. Want to remain competitive, diversify or die, because quite honestly that is how the market works. THAT is conservative values, not sustained welfare at the expense of the rest of the tax payers in this country.

Also, Harper is about as from the west as You are caring about your fellow Canadian. he is a Toronto born raised and educated individual who made his foray into politics in Alberta. Seriously....

[Mr. Ambien]

People also don't realize that Corprate taxes include ma, and pa businesses, young tradesmen, home daycare, the neighbourhood corner store, the tattoo shop. The word Corporate doesn't translate to multi billion dollar corporation. It includes anyone who has an incorporated business. I have a consulting corp and would be directly effected by this. I'm already in the highest possible tax bracket. Now I gotta dish out even more if the corporate tax increases.

Thanks voters, you sure showed them.

Indeed, they don't even realize they cater directly to the big corporations who can absorb these increases by cutting overhead and shuffling logistics, never mind lobby to government for more tax loopholes. Small businesses like the ones you mentioned don't have the resources for it. This is why cons are so attractive for the many business oriented, and why election after election those on the left continue to be shocked that Harper continues to be PM.

[milk and honey]