Warhippy Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 In addition to the health care and diet points noted above, I'd like to add that sustainable agriculture and farming practices for healthier food and less toxic farming environments are serious issues as well that are not even in the radar of the conservatives. The Green and NDP are the only parties with real agricultural reform in their platforms.knowing how the drought has affected Alberta and Saskatchewan as well as this being the first fiscal year without the assistance of the wheat board It will be very interesting to see if any party actually keys into this as an electoral issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 In addition to the health care and diet points noted above, I'd like to add that sustainable agriculture and farming practices for healthier food and less toxic farming environments are serious issues as well that are not even in the radar of the conservatives. The Green and NDP are the only parties with real agricultural reform in their platforms. Canadian Agriculture and health care have little relation. If you walk through the produce section of your neighbourhood grocery store shopping for Canadian food. You would be strained to find enough products to justify a hand basket. We eat nothing from our soil, even when our veggies are at harvest, read the tag "Grown in Mexico" we can't compete with their pricing. Now that the minimum wage is $15 the ghetto's of Canada will now be spending their extra money on organic food, thus lowering Heath Care cost. What a great idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Canadian Agriculture and health care have little relation. If you walk through the produce section of your neighbourhood grocery store shopping for Canadian food. You would be strained to find enough products to justify a hand basket. We eat nothing from our soil, even when our veggies are at harvest, read the tag "Grown in Mexico" we can't compete with their pricing. Now that the minimum wage is $15 the ghetto's of Canada will now be spending their extra money on organic food, thus lowering Heath Care cost. What a great idea!You may not but I sure do. We buy very little grown in Mexico produce. I buy local and/or organic whenever possible. Perhaps you should try being part of the solution as well Oh and we live in the environment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 You may not but I sure do. We buy very little grown in Mexico produce. I buy local and/or organic whenever possible. Perhaps you should try being part of the solution as well Maybe some of those subsidies Harper likes to give out to big oil might help out. We'll never find out until we elect an acceptable government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Maybe some of those subsidies Harper likes to give out to big oil might help out. We'll never find out until we elect an acceptable government.Given the American like standards of the "not Harper" (aka "not Bush") voters you can guarantee "acceptable" is just more of the same corruption and financial mismanagement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Maybe some of those subsidies Harper likes to give out to big oil might help out. We'll never find out until we elect an acceptable government. What's acceptable? Mulcair proposed giving big money to help bail out Greece. I hope you don't think that's acceptable? Oh btw oil is brought back up, big surprise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Given the American like standards of the "not Harper" (aka "not Bush") voters you can guarantee "acceptable" is just more of the same corruption and financial mismanagement. I fail to see how any of the leaders currently up for election could possibly do a worse job than the current regime. I don't consider a single one of their policies acceptable and am appalled at what they've done to my country. All the other leaders at least have platforms that don't advertise a totalitarian police state. If this nutjob is actually allowed back into power, we need to look at other options to get rid of him before the damage is irreparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 What's acceptable? Mulcair proposed giving big money to help bail out Greece. I hope you don't think that's acceptable? Oh btw oil is brought back up, big surprise... Do I like that particular part of his platform? No. However, at least SOME of his party's platform is acceptable to me. Harper's platform has literally nothing to suggest he'd do anything other than destroy this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Do I like that particular part of his platform? No. However, at least SOME of his party's platform is acceptable to me. Harper's platform has literally nothing to suggest he'd do anything other than destroy this country. Well I certainly didn't see anything in the Conservatives platform about destroying Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Well I certainly didn't see anything in the Conservatives platform about destroying Canada. Where heck you been the last 8 years. They've destroyed or eroded a lot of what made Canada, Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Well I certainly didn't see anything in the Conservatives platform about destroying Canada. Bill C-51, for starters. Say goodbye to free speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Do I like that particular part of his platform? No. However, at least SOME of his party's platform is acceptable to me. Harper's platform has literally nothing to suggest he'd do anything other than destroy this country. There are quite a few people who benefit from Harper being PM. Kinda hard to just dismiss them given they voted him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Bill C-51, for starters. Say goodbye to free speech. Technically we didn't have total free speech before C-51 anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Bill C-51, for starters. Say goodbye to free speech. Speaking of destroying Canada it's Mulcair that sides with the separatists. Ndp is the only party that supports 50 plus 1. But considering how many separatists mp's they have I guess we shouldn't be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Where heck you been the last 8 years. They've destroyed or eroded a lot of what made Canada, Canada. I respectfully disagree as do all the Canadians that keep voting his party in. But certainly you are allowed your opinion, no matter what heffy says about lack of free speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Canadian Agriculture and health care have little relation. If you walk through the produce section of your neighbourhood grocery store shopping for Canadian food. You would be strained to find enough products to justify a hand basket. We eat nothing from our soil, even when our veggies are at harvest, read the tag "Grown in Mexico" we can't compete with their pricing. Now that the minimum wage is $15 the ghetto's of Canada will now be spending their extra money on organic food, thus lowering Heath Care cost. What a great idea! Canadian grain supplies mass production all over the world from bread to standard cereal grain production, it also feeds the animals we eat. It has a HUGE impact on health as well. As anyone who eats healthy and takes care of themselves usually has less overall general impact on the health care system vs someone who eats like crap and doesn't take care of them self. Meat from western canada is almost exclusively sourced from western canada or new zealand. Your whole argument and closing statement is ridiculous. Now that the minimum wage is what? The NDP would have to win a majority to enact that legislation, it would be fought for years in court by both businesses and provinces and even then would take an additional year simply to implement. Should the NDP form a majority government the likelihood of them actually being able to enact legislation making the minimum wage $15 is very very unlikely Do you honestly know anything about this election, the people and parties in it let alone the issues facing Canada that happen to be essential parts of each party's platform Or are you literally just parroting the same nonsense people have been fed from the PC's and Conservatives for years, Because it isn't looking good for you with statements like this my man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 What's acceptable? Mulcair proposed giving big money to help bail out Greece. I hope you don't think that's acceptable? Oh btw oil is brought back up, big surprise... Harper just gives money away where he feels like it to... I think you should really look into who has recieved money for little reason from canada over the last 8 years before mocking Mulcair for saying canada had an obligation under treaties signed by the government of canada to the imf to lend money to a pot which would have assisted greece. This obligation was signed in by harper As well he pointed out that one of the agreements under the proposed european trade agreement would have canada obligated again to help any country in the EU during times of fiscal disaster. While Mulcair proposed it, please do go look. Harper has given away billions already, and some to very questionable places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Speaking of destroying Canada it's Mulcair that sides with the separatists. Ndp is the only party that supports 50 plus 1. But considering how many separatists mp's they have I guess we shouldn't be surprised. You're just attacking the party now. You can't attack their platform, but instead just their party. Don't forget of course harper is far from a friend of quebec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Correct me if I'm wrong but this minimum wage bit being thrown around by some on here is misinterpreted. I'm pretty sure it only applies to Federal jobs. To be perfectly honest I can't even think of any federal jobs that are minimum wage atm. In my opinion this is just a ploy to get lower earning Canadians to vote ndp, which in most cases they all ready do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I respectfully disagree as do all the Canadians that keep voting his party in. But certainly you are allowed your opinion, no matter what heffy says about lack of free speech. The war mongering, the muzzling of scientists, the un-protection of the environment/lakes/rivers/oceans, the secrecy, the lies, the lack of transparency, the abysmal economy/budget record, the slashing of veteran programs... That's not the Canada I know and love. The real question is how so many of you still believe he's doing what tells you he's doing, despite ALL the evidence QUITE to the contrary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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