Warhippy Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Again the ndp is the only party that supports making it easier to destroy Canada. I'm sorry but that is a major problem in the ndp platform. I'm sorry...but what? Name 1 part of the NDP platform that destroys Canada Then fall back to the Harper free trade agreements, omnibus legislation C-51 and other rights eroding legislation and not to mention the chinese free trade agreement and FIPA inside of it which allows china to simply do what they want within canada so long as they hold a viable business entity within our borders. I agree with Inane...this thread is beyond ridiculous now. Bring it back to the election Health care infrastructure environment drug plan education. Not...really sad and kinda of pathetic fear mongering with little to no factual basis besides something muttered by a Conservative somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Election issues. Child care. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-comparing-the-major-parties-on-child-care-promises-1.3201117 How would a single mom with one child requiring daycare fare under the proposals of the Conservatives, the NDP and the Liberals? What a about a two-parent family with two children? CBC's Tom Parry looks at how the Conservatives, the NDP and the Liberals stack up on the issue of child care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Election issues. Child care. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-comparing-the-major-parties-on-child-care-promises-1.3201117 How would a single mom with one child requiring daycare fare under the proposals of the Conservatives, the NDP and the Liberals? What a about a two-parent family with two children? CBC's Tom Parry looks at how the Conservatives, the NDP and the Liberals stack up on the issue of child care. lol @ NDP We pay $55/day per child for daycare unsubsidized (I notice some home daycares are around 30 a day but we don't trust these, had a bad incident in Ontario with one of them and got her license removed). Looking at the subsidized daycares, they cost maybe a meager $5 less than mine, and the lowest I've seen in Calgary for subsidized is maybe 40 or 45. There's no way that can be brought down to $15 here. Passing a law requiring daycare providers to charge that much would put them out of business. Subsidizing it would be ridiculously expensive. Just to get it down to $15 without mandating daycare costs means taxpayers foot the bill for 60-80% of daycare costs, even for people who make around 100k a year -- obviously under that too. What, 80%+ of working adults with children fall under that criteria? Garbage. Just an empty promise, they can't do it. Liberals would give 500 a month to a huge chunk of the populace with kids. That would probably knock off ~ 30-80% of their daycare costs, which is pretty reasonable sounding, but again.. how is that paid for? Have to hike taxes again for families over 200k. That's not going to get their vote, that's for sure. PC's plan is as realistic as it gets, even though that's too much money as well. My taxes shouldn't be going to fund people's costs of daycare. If they're having kids they can't afford they do something logical like, I don't know, wait to have kids, use family members to watch their kids, etc. All else fails, if they can't afford having kids, they shouldn't be making one in the first place. Force them to put the kid up for adoption. I'm not into being taxed to high heaven because of other people's stupid choices. As far as the daycare issue is concerned, I would much rather see Harper stay in power than see Mulcair or Trudeau. At least Harper won't crap the bed with empty promises on this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Lol this thread is ridiculous now. Truth hurt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I'm sorry...but what? Name 1 part of the NDP platform that destroys Canada Then fall back to the Harper free trade agreements, omnibus legislation C-51 and other rights eroding legislation and not to mention the chinese free trade agreement and FIPA inside of it which allows china to simply do what they want within canada so long as they hold a viable business entity within our borders. I agree with Inane...this thread is beyond ridiculous now. Bring it back to the election Health care infrastructure environment drug plan education. Not...really sad and kinda of pathetic fear mongering with little to no factual basis besides something muttered by a Conservative somewhere Hippy you are the one that has spent most this thread fear mongering. As far as the 50 plus 1 mulcair repeated it again to Trudeau at the debate, I guess you missed that? The only party to agree with the separatists gee I wonder why... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Mulcairs daycare plan will cost 1.9 billion the first year with the number to grow to 5 billion after 8 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 You're like a cartoon version of a conservative parrot. I find it funny that hippy, Jr and you constantly spew out pure hate for Harper and in hippys is cases inaccurate most the time but yet even truthful things are said that may hurt the ndp you guys seem to get up in arms, why is that? Hippy has spent most this thread fear mongering now he is accusing others of it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Truth hurt? Yeah you really have a deep understanding of the issues and articulate well thought out arguments when you say the ndp platform will destroy canada. That's some real truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I find it funny that hippy, Jr and you constantly spew out pure hate for Harper and in hippys is cases inaccurate most the time but yet even truthful things are said that may hurt the ndp you guys seem to get up in arms, why is that? Hippy has spent most this thread fear mongering now he is accusing others of it.. Because 'insert stupid childish stereotype and meaningless generalization here'. What I find weird is your infatuation with the ndp. You and the others just go on about the ndp. It's like a lonely high school bully where you love to hate that one kid and the only way to make yourself feel good is to put him down. Pretty sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I find it funny that hippy, Jr and you constantly spew out pure hate for Harper and in hippys is cases inaccurate most the time but yet even truthful things are said that may hurt the ndp you guys seem to get up in arms, why is that? Hippy has spent most this thread fear mongering now he is accusing others of it.. Find one post in this thread where Inane uses some type of source or fact to back its claim. It is the girlfriend lipping you off as you are about to scrap her boyfriend. Nothing more then passionate arm flailing. I'm actually puzzled as to what sex it is. Hippy is so blinded by his hate for the conservatives that he can't see anything else. He refuses to acknowledge anything that isn't communist. Calls me out while doing the exact same thing he calls me out for. The reason I don't even bring up healthcare or child care is because super Tom hasn't come up with a logical way to pay for any of his communist agenda. Raising corporate taxes will hurt the corporations we have and keep the corporations we don't have away. I look at the stock market this morning in sheer horror. I can't imagine a government swinging open the door and puffing its chest in the midst of this chaos. Yes, there is little a government can do about this global sell off which is why you should do absolutely nothing. Stop rocking a boat during an epic storm. Just sit tight and let captain Harps lead us through these turbulent times like he has been doing his entire term. He has done such a fantastic job, so fantastic that JR and warhippy haven't even noticed what is going on around the globe. They have been insulated in the warm sanctuary of Harper. Fed by his bountiful bosom and bathed by his empathetic tears. I however, cherish this protection and willingly surrender my taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Find one post in this thread where Inane uses some type of source or fact to back its claim. It is the girlfriend lipping you off as you are about to scrap her boyfriend. Nothing more then passionate arm flailing. I'm actually puzzled as to what sex it is. Hippy is so blinded by his hate for the conservatives that he can't see anything else. He refuses to acknowledge anything that isn't communist. Calls me out while doing the exact same thing he calls me out for. The reason I don't even bring up healthcare or child care is because super Tom hasn't come up with a logical way to pay for any of his communist agenda. Raising corporate taxes will hurt the corporations we have and keep the corporations we don't have away. I look at the stock market this morning in sheer horror. I can't imagine a government swinging open the door and puffing its chest in the midst of this chaos. Yes, there is little a government can do about this global sell off which is why you should do absolutely nothing. Stop rocking a boat during an epic storm. Just sit tight and let captain Harps lead us through these turbulent times like he has been doing his entire term. He has done such a fantastic job, so fantastic that JR and warhippy haven't even noticed what is going on around the globe. They have been insulated in the warm sanctuary of Harper. Fed by his bountiful bosom and bathed by his empathetic tears. I however, cherish this protection and willingly surrender my taxes. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Ya'll are two sides of the same coin smh. Harper hasn't been too bad nor has he been too good. No one who comes in to replace him will be much better or much worse. And my guess is we'll be right back down this same road in three or four years when the next election happens regardless of who wins this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Ya'll are two sides of the same coin smh. Harper hasn't been too bad nor has he been too good. No one who comes in to replace him will be much better or much worse. And my guess is we'll be right back down this same road in three or four years when the next election happens regardless of who wins this one. So far it's looking like a minority, an election is likely within 18 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I look at the stock market this morning in sheer horror. I can't imagine a government swinging open the door and puffing its chest in the midst of this chaos. Yes, there is little a government can do about this global sell off which is why you should do absolutely nothing. . Scary morning on the tsx. China is slowing down and people are panic selling. Things have started to come back up over the last hour but. Man. My personal portfolio wasn't looking. It's risky but I'm starting to pick up some shares on cheap prices. Who knows everything is so shaky right now might be the wrong move. blame Harper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Albertan Corporations, our saviors, our leaders of the economy, are choosing to not pay their taxes.http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/corporations-owe-alberta-1-1b-in-unpaid-taxes Corporations owe Alberta $1.1B in unpaid taxesUncollected corporate taxes and penalties surged by over 25 per cent in Alberta last year, despite a stern warning from the provinces financial watchdog that the government needs to do a better job of getting businesses to pay up. The mounting tab now totals more than $1.1 billion, an amount roughly equal to one-fifth the total amount actually collected from corporations over the last 12 months and two times what the new NDP government hopes to raise annually by hiking the rate for big businesses from 10 to 12 per cent. The Finance Departments recent annual report also shows that fully 38 per cent of whats outstanding, or $431 million, will likely have to be written off. The numbers suggest the problem is getting worse. The proportion of all corporate taxes and penalties that were assessed in a given year but were then unpaid increased by a third from 5.7 per cent in 2013-14 to 7.6 per cent in 2014-15. A scathing report by the auditor general last October said the department needed to update its tax collection policies, better train the staff to pursue overdue accounts, and establish more aggressive targets and effective strategies to get corporations to pay more of what they owe sooner. The risk of not collecting the taxes owed by corporations is that the government wont have the money it needs to pay for programs, assistant auditor general Brad Ireland said in an interview. And the longer these amounts are left outstanding the less likely they are to ever be paid. In response to the watchdogs report, the department said Wednesday that new collections officers have been hired and caseloads are being adjusted inside the corporate taxation unit. Training has been and will continue to be adjusted as we develop additional performance measures and targets for staff with the goal of increasing the effectiveness of our tax collections area. spokeswoman Carolyn Gregson said in a prepared response. Management is continuing to work on identifying legislation, policy and collection strategies this work will be ongoing in the months ahead. The NDP campaigned during the recent election on boosting efforts to collect delinquent and unpaid corporate taxes, and Finance Minister Joe Ceci said Wednesday he has asked his department to make changes quickly. The auditor general has given us until 2017 to implement these recommendations, but I believe we need to move faster on this, Ceci said in a prepared statement. The vast majority of Albertans and Alberta companies do the right thing and pay their taxes, and expect others to do the same. One of only two provinces that do not contract with Canada Revenue Agency to collect corporate taxes, Alberta spent $34 million last year to collect $5.6 billion in corporate taxes. While running its own administration meant Alberta got to keep about $230 million in interest and penalties it collected last year, it also means the province has to assume the risk if taxes assessed go unpaid and ultimately have to be written off. Nearly half of the $1.1 billion amount outstanding or some $547 million relates to nearly 900 corporate returns that are being disputed by businesses. Albertas tax law currently only allows the department to collect 50 per cent of the amount assessed as owing from larger corporations who are fighting an assessment. Wildrose finance critic Derek Fildebrandt predicted the amount of contested taxes will grow as a result of the NDPs recent hike to the rates levied large businesses. There will be an increased incentive for businesses to find ways to reduce their liability and to battle when they think the amount theyre asked to pay is unfair, Fildebrandt said. And its important that there be a presumption of innocence when a tax assessment is disputed. But he said the official Opposition supported efforts to improve collections where the amount was not in dispute. When corporations dont pay what they should, said Fildebrandt, it puts a greater burden on those who are compliant. The Alberta director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation said the mounting unpaid tax bill under the former Tory regime is concerning and she is looking forward to seeing how the NDP government will address the problem. I think its positive that they have made this a priority, said Paige MacPherson, but they should have probably looked at collecting what they were owed first before raising corporate taxes. Aw, poor big oil CEOs. The thing is while these corporations can often get away with not paying their fair share of taxes, Common Canadians cannot. Why should Common Canadians subsidize these billion dollar outfits so they can run away with their profits? Enough with corporate deserters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Albertan Corporations, our saviors, our leaders of the economy, are choosing to not pay their taxes.http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/corporations-owe-alberta-1-1b-in-unpaid-taxes Aw, poor big oil CEOs. The thing is while these corporations can often get away with not paying their fair share of taxes, Common Canadians cannot. Why should Common Canadians subsidize these billion dollar outfits so they can run away with their profits? Enough with corporate deserters. What's up with people assuming the term corporation = only big oil companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Albertan Corporations, our saviors, our leaders of the economy, are choosing to not pay their taxes.http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/corporations-owe-alberta-1-1b-in-unpaid-taxes Aw, poor big oil CEOs. The thing is while these corporations can often get away with not paying their fair share of taxes, Common Canadians cannot. Why should Common Canadians subsidize these billion dollar outfits so they can run away with their profits? Enough with corporate deserters. But look at all the jobs they created in collections by not paying that debt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 What's up with people assuming the term corporation = only big oil companies.More important question is what's up with Harper assuming the same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 What's up with people assuming the term corporation = only big oil companies. It's people who've never really worked and don't realize that the vast majority of corporations are owned by small businesses. I guarantee it's not "big oil" that has unpaid taxes, it's small businesses and tradesmen who are responsible for collecting their own taxes. In my line of work, I see a lot of people's tax returns (or lack of). You'd be surprised how many tradesmen and small businesses pay no taxes to begin with, as they always seem to earn like $10,000/year, but somehow afford cars, houses, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Meanwhile, Mulcair has scaled back his corporate tax rate hike, so I guess all the big CEOs can all calm down. Every party is onboard with keeping the tax rate relatively the same, so it's essentially a non-issue.http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-mulcair-scales-back-magnitude-of-ndp-s-promised-corporate-tax-hike-1.3201087Mulcair earlier this month said he would impose "a slight and graduated increase" that would still be "far below the average that the Conservatives had for the 10 years that they've been in power." The average rate under Stephen Harper's government is 17.5 per cent. If Mulcair really intends to stay "far below" that, he's looking at something like a one percentage point increase maybe two, if one stretches the definition of "far below." And he's now saying even that small hike would be phased in over a number of years. Once fully implemented, that would mean at most an additional $3 billion flowing into federal coffers annually, based on the NDP's estimate that each percentage point increase in the corporate tax rate would add $1.5 billion in revenue. "That's a very small increase in potential revenues," says University of Laval economist Stephen Gordon. Gordon says it might just be enough to offset the revenue loss caused by the steep and continuing slide in oil prices which has the parliamentary budget officer predicting a $1 billion federal deficit this year, notwithstanding Conservative promises to the contrary. At various other times, he's promised to keep Canada's combined federal-provincial corporate tax rate (currently 26.3 per cent) below the average of the G7 industrialized countries (29.9 per cent) or below the combined federal-state rate in the United States (39 per cent). By those yardsticks, an NDP government could increase Canada's corporate tax rate by at least three points, up to as much as 12 points. Mulcair's apparent change of heart is perhaps "a recognition that very large increases in the corporate tax rate are more trouble than they're worth," says Gordon, noting that corporations are adept at finding legal ways to avoid paying additional taxes. It would appear that this leftist option for Canadians doesn't exist. Mulcair's policies are centralist, perhaps slightly left. And it remains to be seen whether his promises on child care or health spending are kept. However, Harper's failures with the economy, failures to get any pipelines off the drawing board, and failures to appease anyone on social issues, I don't see how it can get any worse than Harper. And I think there's money available to the incoming party for sure. It might take a term to clean up all Harper's mess though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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