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Anaheim has 15 NHL forwards. 7 NHL defensemen. 3 NHL goaltenders. That's 25 NHL players. With cap space to spare.

We have 10 NHL forwards, 3 AHL forwards. 5 NHL defensemen, 2 AHL defensemen. 1 NHL goaltender, 1 AHL goaltender. That's 16 NHL players and 6 AHL players. With no cap space to spare.

Our decline...

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Anaheim has 15 NHL forwards. 7 NHL defensemen. 3 NHL goaltenders. That's 25 NHL players. With cap space to spare.

We have 10 NHL forwards, 3 AHL forwards. 5 NHL defensemen, 2 AHL defensemen. 1 NHL goaltender, 1 AHL goaltender. That's 16 NHL players and 6 AHL players. With no cap space to spare.

Our decline...

Meh transitional team.

I don't see cap being a major issue as season by season more younglings will be on our roster while the veterans shall be moved.

Of course we will have some veterans to help us during this transition but as years go by more will be expendable.

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Meh transitional team.

I don't see cap being a major issue as season by season more younglings will be on our roster while the veterans shall be moved.

Of course we will have some veterans to help us during this transition but as years go by more will be expendable.

Hey it's not my money. Good thing. Because if it was I'd slash the player budget in half.
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Anaheim has 15 NHL forwards. 7 NHL defensemen. 3 NHL goaltenders. That's 25 NHL players. With cap space to spare.

We have 10 NHL forwards, 3 AHL forwards. 5 NHL defensemen, 2 AHL defensemen. 1 NHL goaltender, 1 AHL goaltender. That's 16 NHL players and 6 AHL players. With no cap space to spare.

Our decline...

Patrick Maroon was playing in the AHL two seasons ago. Now he's on their first line.

Simon Despres played in the AHL before last season, now he's in their regular top 6.

John Gibson has played 26 games in the NHL.

Players play in the AHL before becoming NHL regulars in case you weren't aware. Calling them AHLers because they haven't cracked the NHL yet is dumb. We're transitioning in youth no different than any NHL team does, including Anaheim.

And as far as having 2 AHL defenseman, I'm not sure who the other one you're referring to is. Weber and Bartowski are NHLers, and if you're counting Korbinian Holzer as one, then these two should definitely be.

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Patrick Maroon was playing in the AHL before last season. Now he's on their first line.

Simon Despres played in the AHL before last season, now he's in their regular top 6.

John Gibson has played 26 games in the NHL.

Players play in the AHL before becoming NHL regulars in case you weren't aware. Calling them AHLers because they haven't cracked the NHL yet is dumb. We're transitioning in youth no different than any NHL team does, including Anaheim.

And as far as having 2 AHL defenseman, I'm not sure who the other one you're referring to is. Weber and Bartowski are NHLers, and if you're counting Korbinian Holzer as one, then these two should definitely be.

Our decline tho.
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Our decline tho.

Every team declines at some point.

What you see as decline I see as the beginning of our resurgence. We finally have a deep pool of prospects and our own farm team to develop them on; which is something we haven't been able to say throughout our history.

Now we should have the ability to have a constant flow of young players into the lineup, rather than having dark eras and big gaps in talent like we've seen in the past.

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Every team declines at some point.

What you see as decline I see as the beginning of our resurgence. We finally have a deep pool of prospects and our own farm team to develop them on; which is something we haven't been able to say throughout our history.

Now we should have the ability to have a constant flow of young players into the lineup, rather than having dark eras and big gaps in talent like we've seen in the past.

The lineup is currently in a state of decline, and there's currently also a big gap in talent, currently filled with stop-gaps. So what we see might be a pre-beginning of a resurgence if you will. But every team has a deep pool of prospects now. Fact is, we're going to need more if we ultimately want to win. A lot more.

What sucks is that everyone knew the decline was on the way, but the team remained stagnant for far too long, creating the talent gap we see now. Because other teams may not have managed so poorly, a dark era here is not completely out of the realm of possibility. Be that as it may, all that should matter is that we win a cup, and preferably multiple cups. Nobody remembers or cares about the dark days in Chicago. Such as it is in sports.

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The lineup is currently in a state of decline, and there's currently also a big gap in talent, currently filled with stop-gaps. So what we see might be a pre-beginning of a resurgence if you will. But every team has a deep pool of prospects now. Fact is, we're going to need more if we ultimately want to win. A lot more.

What sucks is that everyone knew the decline was on the way, but the team remained stagnant for far too long, creating the talent gap we see now. Because other teams may not have managed so poorly, a dark era here is not completely out of the realm of possibility. Be that as it may, all that should matter is that we win a cup, and preferably multiple cups. Nobody remembers or cares about the dark days in Chicago. Such as it is in sports.

Like with any team, the decline of our stars will give way for younger players to rise. Stop gap players are a necessity for every team. 101 points last season would suggest the teams decline isn't as steep as some believe either.

If the Sedins can remain top level players for the next 2-3 years, players like Horvat, Virtanen, Baertschi, Cassels, Shinkaruk, McCann, and Boeser can be developed slowly and brought in to a competitive environment and begin to take the reigns.

Our resurgence may not be as fast as some people want, but if you look at a team like Calgary, they essentially started their rebuild in 2013 when they shipped out Iginla and Bouwmeester and drafted Monahan 6th overall. Two years later and they're one of the top up and coming teams in the league.

The Canucks basically started the same process in 2013 when they drafted Horvat 9th overall, and also picked up Shinkaruk, Cassels, and Subban. The next year Calgary drafted Bennett and Mcdonald, While the Canucks drafted Virtanen, McCann, and Demko.

The resurgence is already happening, it's just a matter of being patient with the young players and developing them the proper way. Before you know it these young guys could be the next core of this team.

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The lineup is currently in a state of decline, and there's currently also a big gap in talent, currently filled with stop-gaps. So what we see might be a pre-beginning of a resurgence if you will. But every team has a deep pool of prospects now. Fact is, we're going to need more if we ultimately want to win. A lot more.

What sucks is that everyone knew the decline was on the way, but the team remained stagnant for far too long, creating the talent gap we see now. Because other teams may not have managed so poorly, a dark era here is not completely out of the realm of possibility. Be that as it may, all that should matter is that we win a cup, and preferably multiple cups. Nobody remembers or cares about the dark days in Chicago. Such as it is in sports.

By "dark days" I believe you mean rebuild?

As long as Hank and Dank are on this team we're going to try to be competitive and we wont be rebuilding.

We need to develop the next core before they are gone.

I don't see any dark days lasting long if we are able to successfully accomplish that.

The last thing we want is to thwart our youth's development by putting them in roles they are not ready for and in environments that is hard to flourish in.

If we get them ready and bring them up in a good environment in order to establish themselves as NHLers before the Sedins are done then we will be better prepared for their departure.

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Like with any team, the decline of our stars will give way for younger players to rise. Stop gap players are a necessity for every team. 101 points last season would suggest the teams decline isn't as steep as some believe either.

If the Sedins can remain top level players for the next 2-3 years, players like Horvat, Virtanen, Baertschi, Cassels, Shinkaruk, McCann, and Boeser can be developed slowly and brought in to a competitive environment and begin to take the reigns.

Our resurgence may not be as fast as some people want, but if you look at a team like Calgary, they essentially started their rebuild in 2013 when they shipped out Iginla and Bouwmeester and drafted Monahan 6th overall. Two years later and they're one of the top up and coming teams in the league.

The Canucks basically started the same process in 2013 when they drafted Horvat 9th overall, and also picked up Shinkaruk, Cassels, and Subban. The next year Calgary drafted Bennett and Mcdonald, While the Canucks drafted Virtanen, McCann, and Demko.

The resurgence is already happening, it's just a matter of being patient with the young players and developing them the proper way. Before you know it these young guys could be the next core of this team.

Parity is one thing that enables us, and any team, to remain competitive, no matter what steps they take towards building a winner. Something to consider. The difference between Hodgson and Stamkos/Doughty for us, for instance, was seven meaningless wins.

I want this team to transform into a winner, not just transform into another team. Time will tell.

By "dark days" I believe you mean rebuild?

As long as Hank and Dank are on this team we're going to try to be competitive and we wont be rebuilding.

We need to develop the next core before they are gone.

I don't see any dark days lasting long if we are able to successfully accomplish that.

The last thing we want is to thwart our youth's development by putting them in roles they are not ready for and in environments that is hard to flourish in.

If we get them ready and bring them up in a good environment in order to establish themselves as NHLers before the Sedins are done then we will be better prepared for their departure.

This team's future isn't soft, but it isn't strong either. It is mediocre. We could do better. The problem going forward as-is is that the fans know this. Meanwhile, there have been moves made to equate us to Calgary's painful pretend phase, as well as TO's, and they will both now peak as playoff pretenders.

The objective should be to win.

I hope we discontinue a pretend phase sooner rather than later, but success is hardly guaranteed regardless. It's going to take time and prudent planning. Right now the time is available but the planning has been a total mystery. Perhaps there is no plan. At least not one to win. Who knows. Time will tell.

I find the issue of putting players in too early to be a side effect of the main issue in that a lot of the prospects we have just aren't that great. If they're ready, they're ready. But that being said, our depth level this season is fairly weak. Thank God for parity. It's this parity that will allow this team to 'remain competitive' with the Sedins, however, we did finish poorly with them in the past.

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Parity is one thing that enables us, and any team, to remain competitive, no matter what steps they take towards building a winner. Something to consider. The difference between Hodgson and Stamkos/Doughty for us, for instance, was seven meaningless wins.

I want this team to transform into a winner, not just transform into another team. Time will tell.

And the difference between us drafting Hodgson and drafting Erik Karlsson was zero wins. He was there to be drafted, but we chose a center instead of drafting what would end up being the best puck mover in the draft.

Drafting has to be done well no matter where you draft. It's easy to say "we could have drafted Doughty/Stamkos" but there are no guarantees these guys will always be available. Sometimes you get a Johnson or Gudbranson instead. That draft we could have drafted Karlsson and Stepan, but instead went with Hodgson snd Sauve. A draft like that could have changed our franchise and we didn't need to finish dead last to do it.

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