TOMapleLaughs Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Why a Patrick Kane trade to the Canucks will never happen. http://www.theprovince.com/index.html?__lsa=4b00-65c8Reality be damned. On with the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Kane Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Huberdeau, Gudbranson, Bjugstad, and two firsts would do it. I can't see Florida giving up Ekblad. Florida has the cap space, and it would save the Hawks on cap space (for now). I don't see Florida offering that much, but from a Chicago perspective I would take that trade (assuming Kane has to be dealt). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Huberdeau, Gudbranson, Bjugstad, and two firsts would do it. I can't see Florida giving up Ekblad. Florida has the cap space, and it would save the Hawks on cap space (for now). If Kane did what he is accused of, such a price would be highway robbery for Chicago. Tallon knows better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckleHorse Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Maybe Hooby, Gudbranson a 1st and a 2nd Big Jugs won't be going anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkayloomeh Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 One of the most over-rated, one dimensional players in the NHL. If you can't feed him the kind of minutes he needs, he's as much a liability as there is in the NHL. Plays very soft minutes for a 'superstar' - very high ozone starts, weak competition - the other side of his game requires it. At the same time, puts up mediocre possession numbers on a premier puck possession team. Yeah - I know - the highlight reel fans on here will object and over-react.....'but, but have you seen him play? he's mmmmagggiccc!' As good a situational player as he is, there are also all the obvious limits to his game, and moreover, his production should be kept not only in the context of his team-mates and SC lineups, but also how soft his minutes are. If a team has the kind of supporting cast Chicago does, he may complement them. But some of the proposals here - Bjugstad, Barkov, Huberdeau, Ekblad plus two firsts... are absolutely nutters - beyond nuts.man do I ever agree with you old news. No way I would give up what people are proposing on this board for Kane. I bet on another team he isn't the players he is when on the Hawks. Nevermind the 10 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 The Ducks still have 7 Million in Cap room. I can see The Ducks being on this if they really want to get over the hump. Plus Imagine Patrick Kane and Ryan Kesler in the same line.there is only one puck though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 there is only one puck though In NHL 11 I think Kesler was considered a play maker so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_Canuck Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Maybe it's the right time for bowman to trade him. They've won 3 cups together, they have given him a great place to play since being drafted. His cap hit hasn't come into play yet, so you let someone else stick out the term. His value is at an all time high, so the return would be monstrous. With there skillful development, who's to say they won't have another gem. His loss would definitely hurt, but it would aswell when he starts to degress. Just rip off the bandaid instead of tugging at it. Very tough decision for bowman, we'll see what he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Maybe it's the right time for bowman to trade him. They've won 3 cups together, they have given him a great place to play since being drafted. His cap hit hasn't come into play yet, so you let someone else stick out the term. His value is at an all time high, so the return would be monstrous. With there skillful development, who's to say they won't have another gem. His loss would definitely hurt, but it would aswell when he starts to degress. Just rip off the bandaid instead of tugging at it. Very tough decision for bowman, we'll see what he does. To CHI Girgenson Ennis Grigirenko 2016 1st To BUFF Kane Kane O Reilly Kane Moulson Eichel Gionta Then with Reinhart coming through that could be a sick top 6 in 3 yrs Kane Eichel Kane Moulson Reinhart O Reilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 To CHI Girgenson Ennis Grigirenko 2016 1st To BUFF Kane Kane O Reilly Kane Moulson Eichel Gionta Then with Reinhart coming through that could be a sick top 6 in 3 yrs Kane Eichel Kane Moulson Reinhart O Reilly hate to break it to you but grigorenko is avalanche property. He was traded there in the o'Reilly deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z Hockey Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 To CHI Girgenson Ennis Grigirenko 2016 1st To BUFF Kane Kane O Reilly Kane Moulson Eichel Gionta Then with Reinhart coming through that could be a sick top 6 in 3 yrs Kane Eichel Kane Moulson Reinhart O Reilly Grigorenko was traded to the Avalanche in the R. O'Reilly deal. That's underpayment too. More like... To Sabres: P. Kane Tropp (Conditional) pick 2017 To Blackhawks: Ennis M. Foligno Eric Cornel Linus Ullmark 2017 1st 2016 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 You really think Kane is gonna go to a place where he just got accused of rape? If anything he would want to disappear from the media by going to a team like Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 You really think Kane is gonna go to a place where he just got accused of rape? If anything he would want to disappear from the media by going to a team like Florida. Chicago cares about the bad press, but does Kane? I could see both Florida (the Tallon connection), as well as Buffalo being at the top of the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 hate to break it to you but grigorenko is avalanche property. He was traded there in the o'Reilly deal. Grigorenko was traded to the Avalanche in the R. O'Reilly deal. There an echo in here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 There an echo in here? Nope. Just you, me, ECKO Canuck, Erik Karlsson, Canucks-12 and whoever else joins this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I don't know, oldnews. He may not be the most defensively minded player, like at all, but there is no denying his ridiculous skill level, speed, and agility. He is an upper echelon player in the league without question, but he couldn't back check to save his life. I still remember that game last year against Chicago where Bo went behind Chicago's net and manhandled Kane, stripping him of the puck. Kane's reaction was as if someone unplugged the controller. Oldnews doesn't think Doughty is a top defender in the league and is overrated, yet everyone in the hockey world sees him atleast as a top 5 defender. He likes to bring up all kinds of lame stats. Doughty in the playoffs and olympics is about as good as it gets. Only Keith is up there with him imo. Same things said about Kane can be said about Stamkos and most other offensive stars. Difference is Kane is clutch and scores big goals when it matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 One of the most over-rated, one dimensional players in the NHL. If you can't feed him the kind of minutes he needs, he's as much a liability as there is in the NHL. Plays very soft minutes for a 'superstar' - very high ozone starts, weak competition - the other side of his game requires it. At the same time, puts up mediocre possession numbers on a premier puck possession team. Yeah - I know - the highlight reel fans on here will object and over-react.....'but, but have you seen him play? he's mmmmagggiccc!' As good a situational player as he is, there are also all the obvious limits to his game, and moreover, his production should be kept not only in the context of his team-mates and SC lineups, but also how soft his minutes are. If a team has the kind of supporting cast Chicago does, he may complement them. But some of the proposals here - Bjugstad, Barkov, Huberdeau, Ekblad plus two firsts... are absolutely nutters - beyond nuts. Still one of the most offensively talented players in the league and one the best playoff performers of this era. Kane is also as clutch as they come. Arguably the best american player of this era so far. Advanced stats or not 3 cups are nothing to joke and neither is at a ppg in over 100 playoff games. 8 years younger and probably could acquire more playoff points than both Sedin twins combined before his career is over. He has accomplished a hell of a lot for a player his size and is a key presence on the Blackhawks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Still one of the most offensively talented players in the league and one the best playoff performers of this era. Kane is also as clutch as they come. Arguably the best american player of this era so far. Advanced stats or not 3 cups are nothing to joke and neither is at a ppg in over 100 playoff games. 8 years younger and probably could acquire more playoff points than both Sedin twins combined before his career is over. He has accomplished a hell of a lot for a player his size and is a key presence on the Blackhawks. not a Kessel fan I take it? if Kane is the best American of this era, that would explain the collosal failures of their national team. I'd take Ryan Suter or Jonathon Quick over the NHL's other premier floater (actually, probably a bigger floater than Kessel). http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2014/02/winter_olympics_hockey_5_reasons_to_be_disgusted_with_team_usa.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 not a Kessel fan I take it? if Kane is the best American of this era, that would explain the collosal failures of their national team. I'd take Ryan Suter or Jonathon Quick over the NHL's other premier floater (actually, probably a bigger floater than Kessel). http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2014/02/winter_olympics_hockey_5_reasons_to_be_disgusted_with_team_usa.html You don't like Kane, we get it. However, even though Kane is far more offensively minded than others, the benefit to this is that he ALWAYS delivers when it matters, and that's not an overstatement either. In every year the Hawks have won the cup, he shows up every time. Even this last year after being out for 2 months with a shoulder injury, he came back just in time for the playoffs and looked like he never missed a beat. It's one thing to not care about defense, then not show up (ie. Kessel, Ovechkin up until this last playoff), it's quite another thing to focus on offence and come though every single time. That's why Kane is so valuable. You put him on the ice and the guy wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 However, even though Kane is far more offensively minded than others, the benefit to this is that he ALWAYS delivers when it matters, and that's not an overstatement either. In every year the Hawks have won the cup, he shows up every time. Even this last year after being out for 2 months with a shoulder injury, he came back just in time for the playoffs and looked like he never missed a beat. It's one thing to not care about defense, then not show up (ie. Kessel, Ovechkin up until this last playoff), it's quite another thing to focus on offence and come though every single time. That's why Kane is so valuable. You put him on the ice and the guy wins. he shows up.... unless he's scared of the Edler train I deleted your first sentence because it's both a presumption and irrelevent to the matter we're discussing. I've said nothing about his character or lack of, his personality or whatnot - I can't be bothered - I'm talking about the hockey player, not the person. As for always showing up when it matters, I take it you didn't read the link. If I were surrounded by Toews, Hossa, Keith, Seabrook, Sharp et al, I would't find it that challenging to show up to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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