Red Light Racicot Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil — The Catholic Church has allowed priests accused of sexually abusing children in the United States and Europe to relocate to poor parishes in South America, a yearlong GlobalPost investigation has found. Reporters confronted five accused priests in as many countries: Paraguay, Ecuador, Colombia, Brazil and Peru. One priest who relocated to a poor parish in Peru admitted on camera to molesting a 13-year-old boy while working in the Jackson, Mississippi diocese. Another is currently under investigation in Brazil after allegations arose that he abused disadvantaged children living in an orphanage he founded there. All five were able to continue working as priests, despite criminal investigations or cash payouts to alleged victims. All enjoyed the privilege, respect and unfettered access to young people that comes with being clergy members. In the US, Catholic leaders have come under intense pressure for concealing priests’ sex crimes, and for transferring perpetrators among parishes rather than turning them over to law enforcement. The scandal has cost the church billions of dollars and led to a sharp decline in new clergy. http://www.globalpost.com/article/6650841/2015/09/16/us-priests-accused-sex-abusive-get-second-chance-relocating-south-america This has come up again because as we all know the Vatican has refused to handle this matter in any adult sense. Unless opening all those pedophile priest files for prosecution along with Vatican names who circled with them and covered up for all of it, they are nowhere close to the 21st century. The Pope has pledged to clean up his organization, but I dont think it matters unless he is willing/able to do something like that. His promise seems a token gesture based on unrealistic and insufficient means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 It's good that they're getting a second chance. But if they screw up again, they should be dealt with accordingly by both legal and religious authorities. They're leaders of the community, they're not supposed to be monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.DirtyDangles Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 It's good that they're getting a second chance. But if they screw up again, they should be dealt with accordingly by both legal and religious authorities. They're leaders of the community, they're not supposed to be monsters. JFC !!!! and I was about to type cue the second chances and forgiveness crowd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 It's good that they're getting a second chance. But if they screw up again, they should be dealt with accordingly by both legal and religious authorities. They're leaders of the community, they're not supposed to be monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 JFC !!!! and I was about to type cue the second chances and forgiveness crowd What are your other two wishes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Strangelove Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 It's good that they're getting a second chance. But if they screw up again, they should be dealt with accordingly by both legal and religious authorities. They're leaders of the community, they're not supposed to be monsters. Uhh they should be dealt with the first time and not be allowed to continue unpunished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwen Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 It's good that they're getting a second chance. But if they screw up again, they should be dealt with accordingly by both legal and religious authorities. They're leaders of the community, they're not supposed to be monsters. Their victims are forever scarred and never get a second chance at innocence so why should the priest who molests them get a 'second chance'? You want yet ANOTHER innocent child (children) to be assaulted and pay the price for a priest's perversions before something concrete is done? No, pedophile priests should be dealt with the first time....there should be no second chances for a transgression of this magnitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Uhh they should be dealt with the first time and not be allowed to continue unpunished But they were. If they weren't punished, they'd be allowed to continue at their current parish. You all seem to believe that people can't change (or that people are their actions), yet you'd never give them the opportunity to in a million years. That's why if these priests reject the second chance they've gotten, go ahead, throw them in prison for the horrendous acts they've done. But if they can change, good on them, they have a chance to impact a new community in a good way, instead of a bad one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Everyone deserves a second chance (too touch children inappropriately)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 But they were. If they weren't punished, they'd be allowed to continue at their current parish. You all seem to believe that people can't change (or that people are their actions), yet you'd never give them the opportunity to in a million years. That's why if these priests reject the second chance they've gotten, go ahead, throw them in prison for the horrendous acts they've done. But if they can change, good on them, they have a chance to impact a new community in a good way, instead of a bad one. No, I'm afraid in normal society if you're a kid loving pervert, you should go to jail the first time. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inane Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 But they were. If they weren't punished, they'd be allowed to continue at their current parish. You all seem to believe that people can't change (or that people are their actions), yet you'd never give them the opportunity to in a million years. That's why if these priests reject the second chance they've gotten, go ahead, throw them in prison for the horrendous acts they've done. But if they can change, good on them, they have a chance to impact a new community in a good way, instead of a bad one. 'Leaders of the community' who molest children don't get a second chance. Sorry bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Strangelove Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 But they were. If they weren't punished, they'd be allowed to continue at their current parish. You all seem to believe that people can't change (or that people are their actions), yet you'd never give them the opportunity to in a million years. That's why if these priests reject the second chance they've gotten, go ahead, throw them in prison for the horrendous acts they've done. But if they can change, good on them, they have a chance to impact a new community in a good way, instead of a bad one. They got sent to areas with more targets and much less oversight that's far from a punishment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwen Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 But they were. If they weren't punished, they'd be allowed to continue at their current parish. You all seem to believe that people can't change (or that people are their actions), yet you'd never give them the opportunity to in a million years. That's why if these priests reject the second chance they've gotten, go ahead, throw them in prison for the horrendous acts they've done. But if they can change, good on them, they have a chance to impact a new community in a good way, instead of a bad one. It is well established that pedophiles can't, and do not, change their preference for sex with young children. What's the recidivism rate for pedophiles again? Yeah, look it up. Educate yourself. But no, you want another innocent child or children to pay the price of being sexually assaulted or molested so that the poor priest gets his 'second chance'.Can'thardlyf'nbelieve your comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Everyone deserves a second chance (too touch children inappropriately)! No one deserves a second chance. No one deserves a first chance tbh. No, I'm afraid in normal society if you're a kid loving pervert, you should go to jail the first time. End of story. Yes, they should. But it's good to give second chances, you never know who that person was meant to be or impact (positively) and they'll never get to be that person. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwen Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 They got sent to areas with more targets and much less oversight that's far from a punishment No f'n kidding. I'm actually dumbfounded by the sheer ignorance in the comment of the poster we're all responding to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Light Racicot Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 It's good that they're getting a second chance. But if they screw up again, they should be dealt with accordingly by both legal and religious authorities. They're leaders of the community, they're not supposed to be monsters. They very likely ARE actually, but they are just doing it in places where they are less likely to get in trouble for it. These guys aren't exactly the "Ive learned my lesson, so just... let me be in constant contact with minors under less surveillance and nothing will happen" type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 It is well established that pedophiles can't, and do not, change their preference for sex with young children. What's the recidivism rate for pedophiles again? Yeah, look it up. Educate yourself. But no, you want another innocent child or children to pay the price of being sexually assaulted or molested so that the poor priest gets his 'second chance'.Can'thardlyf'nbelieve your comment. Does anyone try to help them change? Or do we just fear that they'll do it again? Being afraid of people does no one any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butters Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 No one deserves a second chance. No one deserves a first chance tbh. Yes, they should. But it's good to give second chances, you never know who that person was meant to be or impact (positively) and they'll never get to be that person. Ever. Pedophiles should NEVER get a second chance to have access to kids. If you feel strongly otherwise, leave kids of your own with 'reformed' pedophile priests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 No one deserves a second chance. No one deserves a first chance tbh. Yes, they should. But it's good to give second chances, you never know who that person was meant to be or impact (positively) and they'll never get to be that person. Ever. You lose that opportunity when you TOUCH CHILDREN INAPPROPRIATELY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwen Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Does anyone try to help them change? Or do we just fear that they'll do it again? Being afraid of people does no one any good. They can get help to 'change' while they're locked up in prison for sexually assaulting children. At least they're not being deliberately exposed to more children. They can have a few years to think about 'changing' their ways, making peace with their God. For Christ's sake, do some bloody research on the 'curing' of pedophiles .....then maybe you'll understand why the great majority of us want them locked up and far away from children. Seriously, educate yourself on the subject of pedophiles, please. Yeah, let's give them another shot at damaging an innocent child so they get a second chance.... you seriously think that an innocent child should pay the price for a pedophile priest's second chance? Seriously? You gonna pray the pedophilia out of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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