WHL rocks Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 its actually genius I know a few people that wish they had this programing on their cars/trucks. why would someone want this on their vehicle, what would be the benefit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 why would someone want this on their vehicle, what would be the benefit? More power, better fuel efficiency, better longevity on parts... Yeah why would anybody want that? And fyi, it does already exist. Tuners for most makes and models of cats can modify ecu settings to change / improve any number of parameters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.DirtyDangles Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 More power, better fuel efficiency, better longevity on parts... Yeah why would anybody want that? And fyi, it does already exist. Tuners for most makes and models of cats can modify ecu settings to change / improve any number of parameters. Def not the case unless you are dialing back power on an forced induction engine. Any type of tuning that alters factory settings will inevitably have a serious affect on the engine and its over all longevity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksCelts Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 If this was Ford you would all be outraged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksCelts Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 More power, better fuel efficiency, better longevity on parts... Yeah why would anybody want that? And fyi, it does already exist. Tuners for most makes and models of cats can modify ecu settings to change / improve any number of parameters. One of my cars allegedly has the cats removed, downstream o2s removed, ect. The tune also changes all the strategies, giving it more power, better mileage, and keeps the CEL off. Used to always laugh driving out of aircare with no cats, and a pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Def not the case unless you are dialing back power on an forced induction engine. Any type of tuning that alters factory settings will inevitably have a serious affect on the engine and its over all longevity. Have you been paying attention to what's going on here at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neversummer Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Volkswagen issues sales halt; CEO apologizes on emissions cheating http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2015/09/20/volkswagen-ceo-martin-winterkorn-apologizes-epa-clean-air-act-emissions-violations/72519678/ Pretty quick response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Never been a fan of Volkswagen. I've always put them well behind Mercedes and BMW. To me they are like the Nissan of Japanese makes, or the Kia of Korea, or the Chrysler of American made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Never been a fan of Volkswagen. I've always put them well behind Mercedes and BMW. To me they are like the Nissan of Japanese makes, or the Kia of Korea, or the Chrysler of American made. How do you feel on Fiat vs Ferrari? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Dr. Evil took over VW I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Their shares plummeted nearly 20% this morning: http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/volkswagen-emissions-rigging-1.3236548 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Their shares plummeted nearly 20% this morning: http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/volkswagen-emissions-rigging-1.3236548Whoops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Had to see that coming... Good time to buy shares! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 One of my cars allegedly has the cats removed, downstream o2s removed, ect. The tune also changes all the strategies, giving it more power, better mileage, and keeps the CEL off. Used to always laugh driving out of aircare with no cats, and a pass. lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neversummer Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 So are used 2009-2015 VW diesels worth more now because they got the hack ... not that it matters here in BC since we got rid of Aircare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJVD Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I see some complaints about VW's engineering and it makes me wonder.. how many of you guys have ever owned a Saturn? I loved my Saturn! Though it was made in Belguim as an Opel, GM just changed the badge when they brought it to Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Exactly. It was my first car in the mid-late 90s, the interior was a cheap pos, plus, if you have to ever replace the window, god forbid, you're gonna have a great time getting to the panel to knock the window down. Gotta strip down the entire door (plastic and metal encasing et al), versus just peeling one layer off and done. I was so pissed when I was finally finished. I had helped a friend with his car window, and it was nothing like this. But u can kick the door without denting it, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 I loved my Saturn! Though it was made in Belguim as an Opel, GM just changed the badge when they brought it to Canada.So you basically got the one non-Saturn Saturn car. But u can kick the door without denting it, no?Never tried. Did have sex in it many times. Somehow it survived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.DirtyDangles Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Have you been paying attention to what's going on here at all? Plenty.... you stated longevity of parts as side affect . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Plenty.... you stated longevity of parts as side affect . Yeah, the mode that lowers NOx for testing only (the problem in question), apparently does so by running lower cylinder temps. Those lower temps create less NOx but they also create less power, lower fuel efficiency and create more soot. The additional soot of the 'cleaner' test mode will shorten the lives of components. The test mode creates less power, less efficiency and shortens life span of components. The until now 'regular mode' creates more power, better efficiency and less soot but evidently too much NOx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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