Ilya Mikheyev Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Speculation is brewing in Philadelphia over possible moves by the Flyers to shed salary and free up a roster spot for an affordable young player before the start of the upcoming season. The Flyers currently have just over $583K in salary-cap space, giving them no wiggle room to promote a deserving prospect. CSNPhilly.com’s Greg Paone reports defenseman Luke Schenn seems the most likely to move. The 25-year-old has one season remaining on his contract worth $3.35 million. NJ.com’s Randy Miller claims the Flyers tried dumping Schenn’s $3.6-million cap hit for the past two years. He speculates they might get a third-round pick in return. NBC Sports’ Mike Halford, meanwhile, speculates Luke’s brother Brayden could become a trade candidate. He cites a report noting GM Ron Hextall’s tepid analysis of the 24-year-old winger’s performance (“Brayden’s been OK,” said Hextall in a recent media scrum) which suggested the younger Schenn might not fit into the Flyers long-term plans. Brayden is slated to become a restricted free agent next summer. Halford pointed out Hextall declined to offer the winger a contract extension after locking up Sean Couturier and Jakub Voracek to long-term deals. A versatile forward who can play center or wing, Brayden enters 2015-16 with two straight 40-plus point performances on his resume. Of the Schenn brothers, Brayden could have the most value but moving him could effect their scoring depth, whereas the Flyers defensive depth suggests Luke would be the more likely trade candidate. The Boston Bruins could be a trade partner, as they’re in need of depth after losing Dennis Seidenberg for two months following recent back surgery. Philly.com’s Sam Carchidi also reports Hextall is trying to move Luke Schenn, as well as veteran forwards Vincent Lecavalier and R.J. Umberger. With Lecavalier and Umberger now in their mid-thirties and each carrying contracts with over $4-million cap hits, it’s unlikely the Flyers GM will find takers for those two. - THN Dreger on Brayden: His name has been kind of on and off the trade list over the past season, maybe two seasons. I would think that Hakstol would want to get a real good look at him, and see what he has. I mean, that’s the arrogance of coaching, isn’t it, regardless if you have NHL experience. You come in and think that you’re the guy to come in and push the right buttons to make every player go.“But, having said that, Schenn’s name is out there. There’s no doubt about that. I know the St. Louis Blues, as example – we’re going to talk about this a bit on in Insider Trading tonight – there’s a team that’s looking for a top 9 forward. Schenn makes some sense, but he makes a lot of money and he might be too expensive for the St. Louis Blues and a lot of other teams.“But at least as far as media circles go, Brayden Schenn – his name is out there. But again, it’s so early, it’s really tough to find any traction with one specific team.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 If I were GMJB I'd be taking a flyer on both these guys. Luke Schenn, a big RHed crease clearing defensemen entering his prime, but doesn't have a lot of contract negotiation leverage, and Brayden, a 45 point winger who is reliable defensively? These two are underrated IMO. Cap space it probably wouldn't work out this year though, or at least would be fairly complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Braden's been slightly less disappointing than Luke, if that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 Braden's been slightly less disappointing than Luke, if that matters. It's true they haven't met expectations, but if you look at them as players without the expectation of developing into elite top-level players, they both fill a role pretty well, and they're still only 24 and 25. 47 points isn't bad for a player who moved around the top-9. I think Brayden would look good on a line with Sutter & Lucic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7Nucks Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 For it to work with us (Vancouver, for those that don't like when we refer to the team as us) we'd likely need to move Hammer and Vrbata, then use those picks/prospects and move them for the Schenn's, assuming we take a flyer on both. The cap space just isn't there for us right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 It's true they haven't met expectations, but if you look at them as players without the expectation of developing into elite top-level players, they both fill a role pretty well, and they're still only 24 and 25. 47 points isn't bad for a player who moved around the top-9. I think Brayden would look good on a line with Sutter & Lucic. What are Brayden's expected RFA demands? Luke's UFA demands? Might want to shelve Lucic plans if we're taking on both these guys. Then again, we have UFA's of our own. Not a huge fan of Luke's game. The puck dies on his stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Would bang, though it'll cost picks and prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC20.0 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Decent players, but never lived up to their hype or cap hit. I remember when Luke was supposed to be the Leafs next big star haha. But a change of scenery could be all it takes for these guys. Shisa for L. Schenn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madness Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 No thanks. I'd pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7Nucks Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Decent players, but never lived up to their hype or cap hit. I remember when Luke was supposed to be the Leafs next big star haha. But a change of scenery could be all it takes for these guys. Shisa for L. Schenn? Sounds like they want cap. So it'd be picks/prospects going their way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Luke Schenn seems like a player Benning would target. If they're looking to clear cap and he wouldn't cost much, I would go for it. We'd have to clear one of Higgins or Hansen's contracts first though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Luke is a bust. At this point he reminds me of Denis Gauthier's stint with the Flyers. Brayden has underachieved but is a solid player. He is one of the best hitting forwards in the NHL with legit talent. 199 hits last season and 200 hits the year before. Only Ladd, Backes and Ovechkin topped him in both hits and points. He also still shows signs of legit top line talent and isn't bad defensively. IMO the biggest flaw he has is anticipation and general hockey sense. It is common to see him chasing the puck instead of seeing it come to him. He scores a lot of points simply on raw talent or outworking the opposition. In a way it reminds me of Voracek early in his career where you saw the talent but he had to mature mentally as a player before he started posting those big numbers. His career could also have been hurt by the fact that he has never been developing in just one position. Philly has repeatedly moved him around to different positions. IMO though Brayden is worth taking a chance on for a team while his stock is lowish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonecoldstevebernier Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Brayden Schenn's tempting but the Flyers would ask for way more than a one-for-one deal, I'd rather play our own prospects than package them up for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Luke is a bust. At this point he reminds me of Denis Gauthier's stint with the Flyers. He's an NHLer, not sure how you can consider that a bust. Sure he didn't meet expectations for a top 5 pick, but he's not a bust. A bust would indicate he never even became an NHL regular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I really like Brayden Schenn. Luke on the other hand is meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Perfect example of trying to get a young d into the NHL far too soon. There must be cause for concern for Brayden as well. The Kings like big guys, and they got rid of him pretty early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Honestly...I'd consider a move around a group of players/prospects on our end and a pick to nab both brothers. Hansen, Corrado, Shinkaruk or Jensen and any 2 of a 2016/2017 3rd and 4th round pick Does it seem like an underpayment? Well..ya, ya it does. It also leaves us clearing cap. BUT! It also gives the Flyers cap space which they need every single year. Schenn and Schenn might very well do better out here on a team that could capably allow them to grow instead of relying on them for more than they can give at this stage of their careers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 He's an NHLer, not sure how you can consider that a bust. Sure he didn't meet expectations for a top 5 pick, but he's not a bust. A bust would indicate he never even became an NHL regular. Calling him an NHLer at this point is even a stretch in itself. He was often a healthy scratch last season and when he did play it was often because of the set scenario. Ghost tore his ACL and Coburn (who also ended up traded), MacDonald, and Grossmann all sustained significant injuries during the season opening up spots for Schenn to play. In addition the Flyers sometimes simply dressed 7 defenders with Schenn often being the bubble man. As of right now Luke is skating on the 4th defensive pair and is speculated to be a healthy scratch to start the season if he remains on the team. Keep in mind despite the Flyers having a rich crop of defensive prospects the current defense aka his competition is laughably ugly. IMO the only reason Luke has an NHL job now is because of his contract and his drafted positions reputation clinging to hope he may still turn it around. Otherwise he just seems like an AHL/7th defenseman to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I always looked Brayden Schenn and Brandon Sutter the same way. Personally, I'd rather have Schenn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutral Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 corrado for l.schenn 50 percent retained Jensen/vey hansen and Carolinas 3rd rounder for B.Schenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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