homersexual Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 By now, it’s common knowledge the Canucks offered Cory Schneider to the Oil for a package consisting of the seventh overall pick, a second-rounder and Martin Marincin. For the Canucks, turns out, it wouldn’t have mattered if they had the Oil pick or Lou’s New Jersey one. They were taking Horvat over Nichuskin (and that was the debate, if there was one). Before the negotiation with MacTavish broke off, however, the Canucks offer came down to No. 7 and Marincin. Mac-T had to think long and hard over that one. But he came back to Vancouver and declined, saying: “My goalie coach says Dubnyk is going to be a star.” The Gilly response to Mac-T: “You’re going to be firing your goalie coach.” He was right. http://blogs.theprovince.com/2015/10/07/the-provies-its-money-back-guarantee-night-first-game-is-the-best-game/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 GM MG OUT-GM'D GM Mac-T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Funny that Gillis had swag when he was doing such a poor job with the goalie situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 This guys username's probably the one of the only things that'll stand out in this thread. Anywho, comes to show how valuable Horvat was at the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimberWolf Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Funny that Gillis had swag when he was doing such a poor job with the goalie situation. Gillis like to win trades. Sometimes that worked for us, sometimes it didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob.Loblaw Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Wait, we lost out on a second round and a prospect? Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I wonder who we were going to draft had we gotten the 7th overall pick? Nurse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbark95 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I wonder who we were going to draft had we gotten the 7th overall pick? Nurse? For the Canucks, turns out, it wouldn’t have mattered if they had the Oil pick or Lou’s New Jersey one. They were taking Horvat over Nichuskin (and that was the debate, if there was one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Well dubnyk did have a better season than Cory... And likely will again this year. So the goalie coach was right eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Schnieder had the better season, he was just on a crappy team. Without schnieder nj would have been picking in the top 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Gaunce Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Well dubnyk did have a better season than Cory... And likely will again this year. So the goalie coach was right eh? Playing for arguably the best defensive core in the league vs one of the worst, he better have a good year. Remind me how he did in the playoffs as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekey Pete Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Funny that Gillis had swag when he was doing such a poor job with the goalie situation. Gillis did pretty good with the goalie situation in hindsight. The Luongo contract screwed him, and he has to take part of the blame for that (the other part going to the NHL for changing cap rules). But, he turned Schneider into Horvat, and Luongo into Markstrom. Markstrom has the potential to be a great starter, and Horvat is already proving his potential as a solid two way centre who brings it every night he plays. I'd say MG did a very not-poor job with the goalie situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockhart Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 So basically they are lucky they didn't get Schneider, if they got Schneider they most likely wouldn't have gotten McDavid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z Hockey Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 That doesn't entirely make sense, I believe the negotiations for Schneider began after the Oilers had already taken Nurse with the 7th pick. That's why Gillis said when asked why he didn't take Edmontons better offer, "We wanted to get into the top ten." It was probably the Oilers 2014 1st round pick, a 2nd, and Marincin. All that wasn't good enough to Gillis and he figured Horvat alone coming out of a top ten pick was better. He was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Wait, we lost out on a second round and a prospect? Damn. No, we would have only got Marincin, but McT wouldn't even go for that. He's since been traded away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEGCanuck Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 GM MG OUT-GM'D GM Mac-T.With due respect, your mother could out-GM MacT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 That doesn't entirely make sense, I believe the negotiations for Schneider began after the Oilers had already taken Nurse with the 7th pick. Wrong. The deal was made the night before the draft. They just agreed to wait for the draft(was in new jersey and if they didn't have a pick people might not have come) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPatrick33 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Gillis was taking Horvat all the way, he sure was right in his conviction, and quite literally saved his reputation after he traded away our own home grown superstar goalie. Typical oilers management, do not know how to develop talent almost ruined dubnyk lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Bersnoozi Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 By now, it’s common knowledge the Canucks offered Cory Schneider to the Oil for a package consisting of the seventh overall pick, a second-rounder and Martin Marincin. Mac-T had to think long and hard over that one. But he came back to Vancouver and declined, saying: “My goalie coach says Dubnyk is going to be a star.” The Gilly response to Mac-T: “You’re going to be firing your goalie coach.” Well, technically the goalie coach was right. Dubnyk had a fantastic year last season, wasn't he a Vezina finalist? Schneids has yet to do that. Honestly, I doubt Schneids would have done much better in Edmonton with that team and defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Gillis did pretty good with the goalie situation in hindsight. The Luongo contract screwed him, and he has to take part of the blame for that (the other part going to the NHL for changing cap rules). But, he turned Schneider into Horvat, and Luongo into Markstrom. Markstrom has the potential to be a great starter, and Horvat is already proving his potential as a solid two way centre who brings it every night he plays. I'd say MG did a very not-poor job with the goalie situation. The return was fine and I'm huge Horvat fanboy, but the drama that overshadowed the team at the time was horrible. A year after a SCF the Canucks couldn't even make it to the 7th game of the 1st round, and not only did Luongo want out, then Kesler did too. Torts brought it all crashing down, but it was definitely building up before him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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