Alflives Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 He can and will obviously be moved to Left Wing once Benoit Pouliot isn't suited to the top six. Or they trade him, it doesn't make sense they have three potential number 1 centers, Draisaitl should be moved to someone who really needs him, for other pieces. What's he worth though? If Bo, who is clearly the much better player, isn't worth Jones or Monahan level players, then is LD worth it for the oil to trade him? Maybe they would be better to trade RNH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davathor Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 That's a disturbing story from some disturbing GM's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinoTambo Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 We got our next Captain out of the deal. Nuff said. Let's just move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat James Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Jones, maybe. Definitely not the other two. IMO those two are one way players, who may get a few more points, but will not impact a game like Bo does. Although I like all those players, I like Bo more. How good would a line be with Bo between those other two Canadian boys? If you wouldn't take MacKinnon over Horvat then you're dumb. Nathan almost halved his point totals from his first to his second year and still out scored Horvat. MacKinnon has the potential to be a top 5 center in this league, something Horvat does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z Hockey Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I don't recall Gillis saying that. All I remember Gillis saying (or implied, the guy stopped giving out straight answers by that point) was that the Oilers needed to do better than NJ because it was a trade within the division. I remember McTavish looking confused after the trade was announced and basically he thought that his offer of 7th overall was better than NJ's offer of 9th overall so he assumed that GIllis must have gotten 9th overall pick plus something else but he didn't, and that is why he was confused. But as far as Gillis was concerned, 7th and the 9th overall pick was equivalent because he was picking Horvat anyways. If Edmonton did end up offering up one of Klefbom or Maricin + 7th overall pick, Gillis might have taken that deal though. Well Gillis did say that, "Quote on Quote" "We wanted to get into the top ten." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianRugby Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 If I was an eccentric Billionaire and got my own NHL franchise I would be the president and hire Mike Gillis as GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I agree. Although it could have done better, he didn't do as bad as we initially thought. And Luongo siutation wasn't Gillis' fault at all. The salary recapture rule just goes to show how amateurish the league is operated and it led to Kovalchuk going back to Russia. I hope Hossa retires before his contract expires just to see how the league handles this situation. Gillis put $64 mill on the table for Lou. Lou is Lou, awfully good but not among the true worlds best players. But $64 mill, really over 8 or 9 years not 12, was the kind of money you pay Sydney Crosby. $64 million was half the money it would have taken to buy Columbus or St Louis NHL franchises at that time. Just for context. Bottom line is it was too much money! There is every reason to project how shelling out that kind of contract offer would end up... And it did end badly! Yup. Who from his draft would we trade, right now, for Bo? Hands down you take McKinnon, Jones and Monahan. Cases can be made for Lindholm & Wennberg although I'm not sure I'm buying. Burakovsky could slip into the conversation. Nichushkin was also injured last year, but played in both the Olympics and as an NHL 1st line winger as a rookie. He was a good pick. And I'm also still taking Barkov. That's irrelevant though. The real point is we made an excellent choice where we did. And that's all you want! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Playing for arguably the best defensive core in the league vs one of the worst, he better have a good year. Remind me how he did in the playoffs as well Minny was having goalie issues until Dubnyk came along, but even before that in Arizona Dubnyk was having a good season on the arguably worst defensive team in the NHL. Dubs was NOT propped up by the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Dubnyk is a bit of a Stud now though. So the goalie coach wasn't completely wrong. Being a goalie in Edmonton is tough though. Weakest D core on the west is a toss up between them and the Yotes in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Yup. Who from his draft would we trade, right now, for Bo? Aside from MacKinnon or Barkov (for obvious reasons)? Seth Jones, maybe. But neither player has proven enough to warrant even thinking about moving them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proheffanol Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Well dubnyk did have a better season than Cory... And likely will again this year. So the goalie coach was right eh? Schneider had the better season while playing for a terrible team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robongo Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 So basically they are lucky they didn't get Schneider, if they got Schneider they most likely wouldn't have gotten McDavid. One of the better trades they never made for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 If I was an eccentric Billionaire and got my own NHL franchise I would be the president and hire Mike Gillis as GM. No way, I would hire Mac T or other ex Oilers, get a bunch of 1st overalls and build a dynasty!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Aside from MacKinnon or Barkov (for obvious reasons)? Seth Jones, maybe. But neither player has proven enough to warrant even thinking about moving them. MacKinnon and Jones would still be the top 2 but it's safe to say we got one of the best players in the draft. We'll all have to wait 15 years to see who wins Cup(s) and has a better career but for now can't be any happier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 MacKinnon and Jones would still be the top 2 but it's safe to say we got one of the best players in the draft. We'll all have to wait 15 years to see who wins Cup(s) and has a better career but for now can't be any happier. More so, watching schnieder tonight we don't want that guy anyway. Gillis got kicked for that trade, but now with Bow so good, and Schnieder looking like a sieve tonight - and not leading his team to anything since the trade - we won that trade BIG TIME!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 More so, watching schnieder tonight we don't want that guy anyway. Gillis got kicked for that trade, but now with Bow so good, and Schnieder looking like a sieve tonight - and not leading his team to anything since the trade - we won that trade BIG TIME!!! I would re do the Bo for Schneider trade even if Schneider plays like he did last year and continues his career as expected. We needed a young C and infusion of youth and it was a good trade. With Markstrom about to become a started soon and Demko in the wings I'm not worried about our goal tending going into the future. Definitely a win for the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Bersnoozi Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 "You can keep Schnieder because my goalie coach said that Dubnyk will be a star.........for another team" - MacT *LOL* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BI3KSA- Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Wait, we lost out on a second round and a prospect? Damn. I'm happy we didnt do that trade. The Oilers are going to be monsters already without us giving them a legitimate franchise goalie to drub us even harder with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Funny that Gillis had swag when he was doing such a poor job with the goalie situation. He could have done a few things different. Having said that the league screwed him when they messed with the cap hit on Lui's contract. He got horvat out of shnieder and I'd say that's fair value. Might even turn out to be a blessing if Bo ever raises the chalice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongrel Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Well, technically the goalie coach was right. Dubnyk had a fantastic year last season, wasn't he a Vezina finalist? Schneids has yet to do that. Honestly, I doubt Schneids would have done much better in Edmonton with that team and defence. If those two switch teams who do you think has the better season statistically? Dubnyk is better than what he was able to show playing for Edmonton but he's the same goalie he's always been. A good starting caliber goalie but he's closer to Cloutier than he is to Hasek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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