dbark95 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 "Rule 78.4: A goal shall be scored if the puck is put into the goal in any way by a player of the defending side. The player of the attacking side who last touched the puck shall be credited with the goal but no assist shall be awarded." http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en/v3/ext/rules/2014-2015-rulebook.pdf It wasn't an own goal. It was a deflection. Deflecting goals off defending players are awarded assists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 At least give Widman the helper then c'mon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Could have asked in his prospect thread or the GDT. Oh god I am becoming a monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 It wasn't an own goal. It was a deflection. Deflecting goals off defending players are awarded assists. That, I guess, is what's up to interpretation. I agree that it looked like a deflection, but it's definitely a closer case than some, and I can see how the scorekeepers might see it as an own goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Give the kid the point already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thLineGrinder Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 i call BS on the rule wideman is a professional, if he had control of that puck he is knocking it to the corner out of harms way, NOT INTO HIS OWN NET ON PURPOSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 We see own-goal deflections all the time where assists are given. Typically if it deflects off a defending player (arm, leg, skate etc) where the player isn't intentionally trying to play the puck assists are given. In this case Wideman intentionally reached out with his stick literally playing the puck into his own net though his own action. Making it an "own goal". In this case it's correct to apply the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasCanuck Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 "Rule 78.4: A goal shall be scored if the puck is put into the goal in any way by a player of the defending side. The player of the attacking side who last touched the puck shall be credited with the goal but no assist shall be awarded." http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en/v3/ext/rules/2014-2015-rulebook.pdf Even though the rule is clearly shown and it proves the Ref's made the right call; people still keep complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Even though the rule is clearly shown and it proves the Ref's made the right call; people still keep complaining. Does "any player" include the goalie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brouhaha Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I agree with Barzal, I mean yeah it would've been swell to get that point in your first game, against our rivals, with your parents in the crowd, but really i'm sure it'd be sweeter if it was a goal or an assist that wasn't an own goal. His time will come ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Does "any player" include the goalie? I'd think it would. Goalies can have own goals as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I'd think it would. Goalies can have own goals as well. I just see pucks deflecting on off goalie sticks a lot, so why are those not considered own goals? The rule sounds like it is open to interpretation. That's why points should not be the barometer of a player's value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I just see pucks deflecting on off goalie sticks a lot, so why are those not considered own goals? The rule sounds like it is open to interpretation. That's why points should not be the barometer of a player's value. I see your point but let's say the goalie intently tries to direct the puck to behind the net but puts it in, is it an own goal... Yes but it would have to be obvious that he was making an attempt to play the puck but shot it in his own net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I watched the play like 8 times and wondered why it wasn't an assist. Guess the rule explains that. Nonetheless, it was nice that Burrows got the puck for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cupbearer Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Does "any player" include the goalie? Yes, that's happen at times, where a team shoots on a delayed penalty, then send it back to the point, miss and it goes into their own net. Then the goalie gets the goal as the last to touch it. I think Van was on the right side of one of these gaffes a few years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\/ijay Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 As others have said it was ruled an own goal. When I watched the highlights I actually went back to look at the score sheet to see who made that great defensive play and got the assist and was surprised it was unassisted. Personally I did not consider it an own goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I'll try this again........... Typically if it deflects off a defending player (arm, leg, skate etc) where the player isn't intentionally trying to play the puck assists are given. In this case Wideman intentionally reached out with his stick literally playing the puck into his own net though his own action. Making it an "own goal". In this case it's correct to apply the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slegr Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 But the point is that this rule rarely gets implemented on things like deflections. One of a million examples - look at this own-goal by Smith, scoring on himself with the puck in his pants: And yet, they gave an assist on the play to one of the Sabres (Matt Moulson). Why? It helped that the game was in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Typically if it deflects off a defending player (arm, leg, skate etc) where the player isn't intentionally trying to play the puck assists are given. In this case Wideman intentionally reached out with his stick literally playing the puck into his own net though his own action. Making it an "own goal". In this case it's correct to apply the rule. Swinging at the puck is "playing" the puck? I've only really seen the play a couple times but doesn't look like he had control of the puck at all, not enough to "play the puck" into his own net anyway. Regardless McCann will get a point soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersexual Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 It is similar to a delayed penalty call. The whistle would of blown and the goal wouldn't of have counted if there was a delayed penalty on Calgary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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