Fan since 82 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 This is something that bugged me as soon as it happened. When Torts was interviewed after the game he said something like (sorry not an exact quote): 'When I saw who he (Hartley) was starting I knew I had to do the same. I couldn't risk starting anyone else and have them get hurt.' There's no way a line brawl starts if there aren't willing partners on both sides. Why couldn't he have put our first line out against Calgary's fourth line? That's a line match coaches dream about. We win the draw, gain posession, and bam take a 1-0 lead within the first minute of the game. Torts was out-coached there and let Hartley dictate the beginning of the game. I know it's ancient history, but I only bring it up because it's a hot topic on the radio. Everybody is bashing Hartley, but it takes two to tango and I feel that Torts is as much to blame. Thoughts? PS - I searched for this topic but couldnt find anything. Apologies if it already exists somewhere and I missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowhereman Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 This is a lesson you should've learned on the schoolyard. Never start anything. But always finish it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senpai Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 The biggest thing was Hartley put out a goon forward as a defenseman. I forgot who, might have been McGrattan. That was honestly a little much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekey Pete Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 This is a lesson you should've learned on the schoolyard. Never start anything. But always finish it. Like when Torts finished his own career by trying to attack another coach? 10/10, smart lesson, would learn again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Why couldn't he have put our first line out against Calgary's fourth line? That's a line match coaches dream about. We win the draw, gain posession, and bam take a 1-0 lead within the first minute of the game. We're in trouble if dey jump da twin. - Alex Burrows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armada Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 That was the fall of that seasons team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Yes it was necessary to do so...everything after the brawl was stupid on Torts part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neversummer Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Am I in a time warp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan since 82 Posted October 9, 2015 Author Share Posted October 9, 2015 We're in trouble if dey jump da twin. - Alex Burrows I just don't think they would've done it. We would have had posession and if they kept running around looking for a scrap it would've made it that much easier to score. I know it's all water under the bridge but I have just never really seen it discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miked1101 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 We're in trouble if dey jump da twin. - Alex Burrows Don't push me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigturk8 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 This should clear everything up for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Actually would have made Hartley look foolish if we started the 1st line, played pond hockey and scored 20 seconds in. Only thing is, if the Flames goons grabbed the Sedins and started doing a Marchand speedbag routine for no reason, they wouldn't get punished / suspended as they should, since it's usually open season on the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standing_Tall#37 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Actually would have made Hartley look foolish if we started the 1st line, played pond hockey and scored 20 seconds in. Only thing is, if the Flames goons grabbed the Sedins and started doing a Marchand speedbag routine for no reason, they wouldn't get punished / suspended as they should, since it's usually open season on the Canucks. Well it is embarrassing to have players that can't stand up for themselves against a midget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Well it is embarrassing to have players that can't stand up for themselves against a midget. It is embarrassing, but still a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan since 82 Posted October 9, 2015 Author Share Posted October 9, 2015 Well it is embarrassing to have players that can't stand up for themselves against a midget. It's not that they can't stand up for themselves, more that it's not their game. Don't get me wrong I would've loved it if Daniel dropped the gloves with Marchand that night (even if he lost the fight I believe it would've given the Nucks a huge boost), but that's not his style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliewud Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Well it is embarrassing to have players that can't stand up for themselves against a midget. whats more embarrassing is those are our star players and NOBODY did anything to marchand after that...what a gutless team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singularity Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Well if Torts put out our first line and a brawl started and everyone got sent off to the penalty box then what? Their first line comes out while ours is away? Might as well take both 4th lines out and get back to the game. Everything else.. was not necessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan since 82 Posted October 9, 2015 Author Share Posted October 9, 2015 whats more embarrassing is those are our star players and NOBODY did anything to marchand after that...what a gutless team. ^This!^ I really believe that they lost the cup in that game. The Canucks were the better team but for some reason they were just too fragile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 whats more embarrassing is those are our star players and NOBODY did anything to marchand after that...what a gutless team.whats more embarrassing is those are our star players and NOBODY did anything to marchand after that...what a gutless team.Totally agree. Hockey is never more physical than CUP play. Either you want bad enough or you do not.If Sedin did not have push back then someone else certainly should have. Forsberg would have droppedMarchand or at the very least stuck the guy on the next shift. One way or the other it had to beanswered.There was no question about Tort's line response to Hartley. He did the right thing and as he said laterHartley had done the same thing in prior seasons. The problem was the locker room confrontation whichwas over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersexual Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I support Tort's on this. Remember when the Oilers did the same thing in the final few moments of a game when AV was coaching. The Oilers goon'ed up Linden and 4 foot something Mike Weaver had to fight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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