TimberWolf Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Why would Kesler feel obligated to go to a team he doesn't want to? He signed a contract for less for two reasons, so we could surround him with cup winning talent and bargaining power should it be time to move on. Why would he remove that bargaining power? For you? Would you do that? Say you were able to get traded to a team of your choice. Would you just waive that and go to Columbus or something so the teams fans you left feel better? Why would or should he care about that? He was our hardest working player for a long time. I don't begrudge him to move on at the end of his career. I appreciate what he did here and wish him well. I don't cheer for him on another team but a small part of me would be amused if he and Bieksa would win the cup just to see the reactions of a few posters here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 No bro, not acting tough at all, just stating facts. He was never a play off performer/great guy in the dressing room yet he was dubbed all of those things. He's just a good player not a great player or difference maker. Kesler has always played behind a great centreman. He just isn't the guy that will take a team to the next step. Sure, "facts"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 This is not a Ryan Kesler hate thread because he held up the Canucks for ransom by only allowing organization to be traded to only two teams. We could have gotten a lot more had he not done this but it was a blessing in disguise for the Canucks. Firstly, He is not a great guy in the dressing room to have by his actions(above), he is also a notorious diver, trash talker who hardly fights or back it up and let others come in to save his ass. When he doesn't get his way, he doesn't like to hide it at all and lets the whole world know that he is not happy. He hated RJ Umberger and made it public even though Umberger is a lot more liked than Kesler around the league by his teammates and also my his peers. It's never behind closed doors and with Anahiem faltering fast, he will probably be either bought out by season 2 or 3 into his contract or asked to be traded. Secondly, his past accomplishments have been highly over talked about. His 2010 Olympics showing was great but wasn't a factor for the Americans in 2014. His past play off accomplishments are below average at best. He had one great play off series against the Preds where he was cleary the best player and one great play off period in 2013 game 2 against the Sharks but other than that he has pretty much no showed or not delievered at all. Look at 2010 for example after the Americans lost to Canada in the gold medal game he was pretty much non existent and it showed in the 2010 play offs and the series against Chicago some people said Luongo was the reason why we lost that year to the eventual champs but at least played good in at least two of those games where as Kesler was just plain invisible. Lastly, his Selke award winning season was great but he should never have gotten that trophy. If you look back into that season it was Maholtra that was playing against the top lines making Kesler into a 40 goal scorer because the other teams had to focus on the Sedins twins/Burrows line. Kesler only scored against non play off teams and didn't have to play against opposing teams top forwards as broadcasted by the canucks media. After Maholtra went down (cost canucks the cup) Kesler began playing that role and the team was never the same, it wasn't Kesler's fault but the great situation the Canucks were in with three great centres. But let's be fair Maholtra never got the credit he deserved after the injury by management. After the injury Kesler never hit 30 goals or hit 60 points. Finally, In conclusion The ducks will soon regret this contract extension because he is not worth the 6.75 million . He is not even a 50 point scorer anymore, he d be lucky to score over 20 goals this season and will never win another major trophy again. This is a good example of a hate thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC20.0 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I do agree, he is over rated now, but that being said, Kesler was a warrior for us. You mentioned he only had the Nashville series in 2011. Wrong. While it's true he dominated Nashville, he did score the Game tying goal in game 5 vs the Sharks. 2010 Olympics, goal medal game, who started the come back? Kesler. 2013 against the Sharks, game 2. Vancouver has no momentum. Who puts the team on his back? Kesler. That Selke was damn well deserved and you know it, especially after he got robbed of one the year prior. While I hate the way Kesler left, and I lost respect for him, you can't deny the achievements he had here. He was huge, and no way we make it to the Finals without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon45ca Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Lest we forget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckGAME Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Kesler is one of the best players to ever wear a Canucks uniform. The dude left on bad terms, whatever. I'm over it. But he will always have my respect for what he did for this franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spliced Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 All the brainless stuff he would do was just infuriating. His mouthing off and not backing it up in the playoff before 2011, his tunnel vision on the ice especially earlier in his career. Other players would get to him so easily. Then of course the diving, all the diving. Of course he keeps up the idiocy last playoffs, yup Chicago sure couldn't withstand all those hits right Ryan?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etsen3 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 OP says this an unbiased, factual, non-hate thread, but I bet he wasn't saying this stuff when Kesler was still on the team. Even if you don't like the way he left, he busted his ass for Vancouver, and was many times the hardest working player on the ice, even if he wasn't scoring all the goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Nah he was alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spotted Zebra Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 People like to use the term heart and soul in nonchalant terms Kessler was one player who absolutely deserved his recognition. Whether he left on bad terms or not, he wore his heart on his sleeve every single game he played, especially in the playoffs. More than I can say about some of his teammates. I still respect him and hope he wins the big one this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadcanucks Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 CDC...where on occasion, opinion is presented as fact. Nice job by 89mogilny to perpetuate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalky Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 This is not a Ryan Kesler hate thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalky Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 CDC...where on occasion, opinion is presented as fact. Nice job by 89mogilny to perpetuate that. Yeah, sometimes I do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocnhockey Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 CDC...where on occasion, opinion is presented as fact. Nice job by 89mogilny to perpetuate that. Are you kidding me? ....on occasion? .... try all the time.....and for many years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimberWolf Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Are you kidding me? ....on occasion? .... try all the time.....and for many years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Ryan Kesler? never heard of her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadcanucks Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Are you kidding me? ....on occasion? .... try all the time.....and for many years I know...I know...I try not to be absolute because everything in life, as you probably already know, is relative. Plus, there's a few posters around here that provide facts as facts and opinions as opinions -- don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickly Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Never liked the guy much but he was real good offensively for a couple years and has been sound defensively pretty much his whole career. I wouldn't say he's overrated but he's not as good as some people make him out to be. His whining, diving, inability to back up his antics most of the time and poor attitude towards the end of his tenure here really drove me to disliking him. I hope he never wins a cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7Nucks Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Are you kidding me? ....on occasion? .... try all the time.....and for many years I like how the people who complain about CDC are generally the people that are what is wrong with CDC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkayloomeh Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I see that you've said it's not a Kesler hate thread, but it is. Including those first few sentences made it obvious before you started with your opinions. You say he hated Umberger.. okay. That happened literally ten years before kesler got traded, or even made the canucks roster lol. Umberger was the salty bitch who whined because Kesler got a contract before he did. You purposely chose not to include that, though. He had 4 pts and was a +6 for the USA in the 2014 olympics. That team had issues, he was not one of them. 2013 playoffs were just awful for everyone, but the referees fracked us in that series. I don't hold anyone accountable for that series. I agree regarding his Selke. Yes, it's true. Henrik and Malhotra during the regular season of that 2010-2011 season, were the heavy lifters. It was not deserved. The Malhotra crap is just nonsense. Gillis LOVED the guy as a player, so did the coaches, so did the players, so did the fans. He got a puck in the eye, they made a decision for him not to play much. He tried twice again in MTL and CAR, and he was not good. It's just a fact. The non playoff team goal scoring stuff is nonsense. If you look at any player in the NHL, or at least 99% of them, they're going to have a majority of their goals scored against non-playoff teams... His contract is awful, and they're going to regret that contract for sure - but the way you went about making your point is awful. Well said Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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