Frogger009 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Just kicking around an idea for re-alignment here as most people say Quebec would be a problem with the current East/West set up, unless Detroit or Columbus moves back to the West.Basically is this,Each conference has 4 divisions, maybe as follows (just an idea, obviously could differ)WestDiv 1 - Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, San JoseDiv 2 - Los Angeles, Anaheim, Las Vegas, ArizonaDiv 3 - Dallas, Colorado, Nashville, St.LouisDiv 4 - Winnipeg, Chicago, Minnesota, ColumbusEastDiv 1 - Toronto, Detroit, Montreal, BostonDiv 2 - Ottawa, Quebec, Pittsburgh, PhiladelphiaDiv 3 - New York, New York, New Jersey, BuffaloDiv 4 - Washington, Carolina, Florida, Tampa BaySo each division would be paired with a partner division from their conference which would rotate on a 3 year cycle (like the NFL)Schedule - 6 games against Division = 18, 4 games against partner Division = 16, 2 games against everyone else = 48, Total = 82Playoffs would be top 2 teams in each division play in round 1, Round 2 the winners play the winner of their partner division (so it changes every year), Round 3 the winners play the other remaining conference team, then the Stanley Cup Finals. Basically, this could foster great division rivalries, gives some different playoff scenarios as the partner division changes each year and would cut on travel because it is division heavy.Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shift-4 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Breaking up the Cali teams?Ott sits in between Tor and Mtl yet you want to break them up? Back to the drawing boardOr maybe colouring book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogger009 Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share Posted October 29, 2015 Breaking up the Cali teams?Ott sits in between Tor and Mtl yet you want to break them up? Back to the drawing boardOr maybe colouring bookLike I said, an idea of divisions. If not SJ, who comes up north? Arizona and LV are both farther south. And in the east, do you split up Montreal/Boston? if you take Detroit out for Ottawa sure but that leaves Quebec as the lone Canadian team in that division. It's the concept I was talking about, not the exact Division organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Calm downI don't see 4 team divisions working. Though I do like the math. The travel thing is only an issue in the West. I don't think the NHL really cares about the West that much.Geographically speaking Det would move back to the West but the NHL has already promised them the East. I fully expect an unbalanced alignment because of TV. Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogger009 Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share Posted October 29, 2015 Calm downI don't see 4 team divisions working. Though I do like the math. The travel thing is only an issue in the West. I don't think the NHL really cares about the West that much.Geographically speaking Det would move back to the West but the NHL has already promised them the East. I fully expect an unbalanced alignment because of TV. Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional. I apologize for the snapping, it's this place I tell you. I have never been on a forum before where every second post has some snarky remark, comment or "How is this even a thread" post, granted yours wasn't too bad but its cumulative really. Just want to discuss some hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I apologize for the snapping, it's this place I tell you. I have never been on a forum before where every second post has some snarky remark, comment or "How is this even a thread" post, granted yours wasn't too bad but its cumulative really. Just want to discuss some hockey. no worries I deserved it lolI just don't see those teams I noted being separated. It will be very interesting to see how the NHL resolves this if Que and LV are awarded the franchises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I think this is a pretty well thought out idea so the NHL will never go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 WestDiv 1 - Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, San JoseDiv 2 - Los Angeles, Anaheim, Las Vegas, ArizonaDiv 3 - Dallas, Colorado, Nashville, St.LouisDiv 4 - Winnipeg, Chicago, Minnesota, ColumbusEastDiv 1 - Toronto, Detroit, Montreal, BostonDiv 2 - Ottawa, Quebec, Pittsburgh, PhiladelphiaDiv 3 - New York, New York, New Jersey, BuffaloDiv 4 - Washington, Carolina, Florida, Tampa BayI would say go back to 6 divisions.Pacific- Anaheim, Arizona, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, San Jose, VancouverMidwest- Calgary, Colorado, Edmonton, Minnesota, WinnipegCentral- Chicago, Columbus, Detroit, Pittsburgh, St. LouisAtlantic- Boston, Buffalo, Montreal, Ottawa, Quebec, TorontoMetropolitan- New Jersey, NYI, NYR, Philadelphia, WashingtonGulf- Carolina, Dallas, Florida, Nashville, Tampa Bay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I think we'd be more likely to be looking at this, under your model: WestDiv 1 - Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Seattle(expansion 2019)Div 2 - Los Angeles, Anaheim, San Jose, Las Vegas(expansion 2017)Div 3 - Dallas, Nashville, St.Louis, Arizona (or possible relocation to KC)Div 4 - Winnipeg, Chicago, Minnesota, ColoradoEastDiv 1 - Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, Quebec(relocation from Fla)Div 2 - Boston, Columbus, Detroit, BuffaloDiv 3 - New York, New York, New Jersey, WashingtonDiv 4 - Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Carolina,Tampa Bay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadcanucks Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I apologize for the snapping, it's this place I tell you. I have never been on a forum before where every second post has some snarky remark, comment or "How is this even a thread" post, granted yours wasn't too bad but its cumulative really. Just want to discuss some hockey. no worries I deserved it lolI just don't see those teams I noted being separated. It will be very interesting to see how the NHL resolves this if Que and LV are awarded the franchises.Frogger009 and Shift-4...sounding like an old married couple. Glad peace has been restored.Like the way Frogger009's number work on the division re-alignment, though I think I would get tired of seeing the Flames, Oilers and Sharks 6 times a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 WestDiv 1 - Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Las VegasDiv 2 - Los Angeles, Anaheim, San Jose, ArizonaDiv 3 - Dallas, Colorado, Nashville, St.LouisDiv 4 - Winnipeg, Chicago, Minnesota, ColumbusEastDiv 1 - Detroit, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, BostonDiv 2 - Ottawa, Quebec, Montreal, TorontoDiv 3 - New York, New York, New Jersey, BuffaloDiv 4 - Washington, Carolina, Florida, Tampa Bay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 It will be very interesting to see how the NHL resolves this if Que and LV are awarded the franchises.They could resolve it by shipping the Panthers to Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 They could resolve it by shipping the Panthers to Seattle.Works for me. Or even some place like Kansas City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC20.0 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Just kicking around an idea for re-alignment here as most people say Quebec would be a problem with the current East/West set up, unless Detroit or Columbus moves back to the West.Basically is this,Each conference has 4 divisions, maybe as follows (just an idea, obviously could differ)WestDiv 1 - Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, San JoseDiv 2 - Los Angeles, Anaheim, Las Vegas, ArizonaDiv 3 - Dallas, Colorado, Nashville, St.LouisDiv 4 - Winnipeg, Chicago, Minnesota, ColumbusEastDiv 1 - Toronto, Detroit, Montreal, BostonDiv 2 - Ottawa, Quebec, Pittsburgh, PhiladelphiaDiv 3 - New York, New York, New Jersey, BuffaloDiv 4 - Washington, Carolina, Florida, Tampa BaySo each division would be paired with a partner division from their conference which would rotate on a 3 year cycle (like the NFL)Schedule - 6 games against Division = 18, 4 games against partner Division = 16, 2 games against everyone else = 48, Total = 82Playoffs would be top 2 teams in each division play in round 1, Round 2 the winners play the winner of their partner division (so it changes every year), Round 3 the winners play the other remaining conference team, then the Stanley Cup Finals. Basically, this could foster great division rivalries, gives some different playoff scenarios as the partner division changes each year and would cut on travel because it is division heavy.CheersI like it, but a few tweaks.West:Division 1. Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg.Division 2. Los Angeles, San Jose, Anaheim, Las VegasDivision 3. Arizona, Dallas, Colorado, MinnesotaDivision 4. Nashville, St. Louis, Chicago, ColumbusEast:Division 1. Quebec, Ottawa, Montreal, TorontoDivision 2. Detroit, Boston, Buffalo, New York RangersDivision 3. Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, New York Islanders, New Jersey DevilsDivision 4. Washington, Carolina, Tampa Bay, Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BI3KSA- Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I like it, but a few tweaks.West:Division 1. Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg.Division 2. Los Angeles, San Jose, Anaheim, Las VegasDivision 3. Arizona, Dallas, Colorado, MinnesotaDivision 4. Nashville, St. Louis, Chicago, ColumbusEast:Division 1. Quebec, Ottawa, Montreal, TorontoDivision 2. Detroit, Boston, Buffalo, New York RangersDivision 3. Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, New York Islanders, New Jersey DevilsDivision 4. Washington, Carolina, Tampa Bay, Florida.I'd prefer the quoted Vancouver div over yours. San Jose is closer to us than Winterpeg and within the same time zone. Actually, I prefer the quoted divs overall, theyre closer together and better time zone wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlerberry Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 8 divisions is a bit ridiculous don't you think why not have 32 divisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 8 divisions is a bit ridiculous don't you thinkAgreed. I like it the way it is now, but it would be even better with two 16-team conferences.Ultimately though, I have a feeling that the playoffs will get expanded to 20 teams once the league expands. The potential added playoff revenue will be impossible for the league to ignore. Add four more wildcard spots and have a mini-playoff round to get down to 16. Sort of like baseball, but probably best of 3. I have no evidence or source on this, just a prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogger009 Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 Agreed. I like it the way it is now, but it would be even better with two 16-team conferences.Ultimately though, I have a feeling that the playoffs will get expanded to 20 teams once the league expands. The potential added playoff revenue will be impossible for the league to ignore. Add four more wildcard spots and have a mini-playoff round to get down to 16. Sort of like baseball, but probably best of 3. I have no evidence or source on this, just a prediction.I hope not. Right now just over 53% of teams make the playoffs, with 20 out of 32 it increases to almost 63%. It would cheapen the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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