Relyt Krets Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Been thinking where these 2 may end up at deadline day. May even still be here. But why not trade them? Their returns can help us down the road and with what rental players can fetch now a days we should cash in. 2 teams I'd explore trades routes with would be Tampa Bay and Philli (pending they are in the playoff picture). Tampa Bay ; Targets would be, Adam Erne, Anthony Deangelo or Nikita Kucherov. People may think Kucherov would be untouchable but Tampa needs to resign Stamkos (if he even stays). Kucherov will get a decent payday, just not from Tampa. They could use either/or of Vrbata or Hamhuis as playoff rentals. I'd say Hamhuis better fits them though for a playoff run because like they say defence wins you championships. Deangelo would shore up our defence pool. Solid offensive defence man even though there are some issues, they can be solved with time. He is young after all. Erne is another good young point getter, I'd include Jensen in the deal and feel Erne is an upgrade. Kucherov would fit in with the youth movement. Would be a good addition to Horvats wing. Proven scorer. Philly; Targets Samuel Morin and/or Travis Sanheim. Morin is huge. Solid stay at home defence. Needs development time but would be a solid add to the defence prospects pool we don't have. Could be our very own Chara. Sanheim is offensively gifted. Like I said we need a D prospect pool. We also need offensive D. Sanheim could help. Vrbata could help Philly with scoring. I believe he could bring one of these 2 back in return. Thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 morin or sanheim will cost more that vrbata youd have to add a first and second rounder theres no way flyers trade almost nhl ready top d blue chip prospects for a 30 goal scoring ufa thats old maybe jensen a first and vrbata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 If Tampa has the potential to run deep at trade deadline,. Maybe a move like that brings us a late first round pick in 2016. Would be really nice if Virbata started to nail some of the chances he has had .. His points total would be way up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNuck Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Good job...I prefer trade proposals like these,where we get an actual player who is showing signs that he can play at the NHL level, as opposed to proposals where we get a draft pick. We already have picks, so unless we are improving our draft standing, let's get real players with potential in return.And to CANUKTRAVELLA...the reason teams make deals for established NHL players at the TD is because it will help their own club compete in the playoffs. What you mentioned is an off-season trade. The second a team calls to inquire about the availability of a certain NHL player (ie/ Vrbata/Hamhuis) they have essentially put themselves in the buyers seat in the negotiation. We have what they want, and they're gonna have to pay to get it. So no extra high picks needed from us. If it's the NHL ready vet they want (to fill out their roster for a deeper cup run) and it's a blue-chip prospect coming back our way, well then we'll compensate them with a depth prospect or pick, but that's about it. Gotta play tough GM in those situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Let's hope other teams forget how Vrbata plays in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 You have to think Tampa will move heaven and earth to get Stamkos locked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 If Tampa has the potential to run deep at trade deadline,. Maybe a move like that brings us a late first round pick in 2016. Would be really nice if Virbata started to nail some of the chances he has had .. His points total would be way up there.Would we want Drouin back is some package of Vrby and Hammer? Or is he too much of a bust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Would we want Drouin back is some package of Vrby and Hammer? Or is he too much of a bust?I'd say that would be too much of a risk. I would much rather get a package for both of them instead of dealing them in one trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 There is more chance of Tampa trading Stamkos than Kucherov.And Philly won't be a buyer at the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Let's hope other teams forget how Vrbata plays in the playoffs.Vrbata plays in the playoffs? That's news to me. I thought he just skated around the perimeter, avoiding hits like the Roadrunner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I'd say that would be too much of a risk. I would much rather get a package for both of them instead of dealing them in one trade. Okay,I know the kid has tonnes of talent, so thought a change of scenery might get more out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Okay,I know the kid has tonnes of talent, so thought a change of scenery might get more out of him... and my thoughts are we clear close to 10m at the trade deadline & pick up a good draft pick,... Add that pick (with our 1st and (2nd via Tortarella ) .This leaves us shopping with 10m for a bullet like Stamkos ... Using our picks and moving up higher in the 2016 draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 .. and my thoughts are we clear close to 10m at the trade deadline & pick up a good draft pick,... Add that pick (with our 1st and (2nd via Tortarella ) .This leaves us shopping with 10m for a bullet like Stamkos ... Using our picks and moving up higher in the 2016 draft? I like it A LOT !!! Phone JB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I like it A LOT !!! Phone JB!Been thinking where these 2 may end up at deadline day. May even still be here. But why not trade them? Their returns can help us down the road and with what rental players can fetch now a days we should cash in. 2 teams I'd explore trades routes with would be Tampa Bay and Philli (pending they are in the playoff picture). Tampa Bay ; Targets would be, Adam Erne, Anthony Deangelo or Nikita Kucherov. People may think Kucherov would be untouchable but Tampa needs to resign Stamkos (if he even stays). Kucherov will get a decent payday, just not from Tampa. They could use either/or of Vrbata or Hamhuis as playoff rentals. I'd say Hamhuis better fits them though for a playoff run because like they say defence wins you championships. Deangelo would shore up our defence pool. Solid offensive defence man even though there are some issues, they can be solved with time. He is young after all. Erne is another good young point getter, I'd include Jensen in the deal and feel Erne is an upgrade. Kucherov would fit in with the youth movement. Would be a good addition to Horvats wing. Proven scorer. Philly; Targets Samuel Morin and/or Travis Sanheim. Morin is huge. Solid stay at home defence. Needs development time but would be a solid add to the defence prospects pool we don't have. Could be our very own Chara. Sanheim is offensively gifted. Like I said we need a D prospect pool. We also need offensive D. Sanheim could help. Vrbata could help Philly with scoring. I believe he could bring one of these 2 back in return. ThoughtsIf Tampa has the potential to run deep at trade deadline,. Maybe a move like that brings us a late first round pick in 2016. Would be really nice if Virbata started to nail some of the chances he has had .. His points total would be way up there... and my thoughts are we clear close to 10m at the trade deadline & pick up a good draft pick,... Add that pick (with our 1st and (2nd via Tortarella ) ...This leaves us shopping.. with 10m for a bullet like Stamkos ... Using our picks and moving up higher in the 2016 draft? ... And in the 2016 Draft, A. Mathews.. Bar Down. http://www.tsn.ca/top-prospect-matthews-to-play-in-zurich-1.342161 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Philly has Voracek and Simmonds one and two at RW. Even IF they were in the play off race > Vrbata would not be their target. Hextall has also has signalled patience since arriving. Made none of the characteristic futile moves of Philly past. I don't see that one?Doubt you are going to get Kucherov! Or Drouin? At least not for a simple rental. That would be a hockey trade. Stevie Y is too smart.But I could easily see Tampa as a viable buyer. Although they don't need Vrbata. But with some twists?The thing they need more than any other is cap relief. To sign Stamkos. Then to gear up for a run. I could see Deangelo easily being on the table and he is an astute target BTW. This trade does both for TB;To Tampa: Dan Hamhuis, 3rd.To Vancouver: Matt Carle & Anthony Deangelo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Philly has Voracek and Simmonds one and two at RW. Even IF they were in the play off race > Vrbata would not be their target. Hextall has also has signalled patience since arriving. Made none of the characteristic futile moves of Philly past. I don't see that one?Doubt you are going to get Kucherov! Or Drouin? At least not for a simple rental. That would be a hockey trade. Stevie Y is too smart.But I could easily see Tampa as a viable buyer. Although they don't need Vrbata. But with some twists?The thing they need more than any other is cap relief. To sign Stamkos. Then to gear up for a run. I could see Deangelo easily being on the table and he is an astute target BTW. This trade does both for TB;To Tampa: Dan Hamhuis, 3rd.To Vancouver: Matt Carle & Anthony Deangelo... Still, I dont think Stamkos is Untouchable,. Tampas' moves are going to be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 .. Still, I dont think Stamkos is Untouchable,. Tampas' moves are going to be interesting.how do we get Stamkos, if Yzerman does think he's just going to walk in June? He would certainly fill the role of our needed Henrik replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 .. Still, I dont think Stamkos is Untouchable,. Tampas' moves are going to be interesting.I don't think too many bid on trading for Stamkos without being able to negotiate with him part and parcel.He would cost waaaaaaay too much in assets for a rental. That aside, not untouchable at all... I do salivate at the thought of having $12 mill to throw at Stamkos as UFA!Next year;Danny Hank Stamkos > The Twins final get an all star right winger to compliment them Two years time, Stamkos 28, Twins last year;Shinakruk Stamkos BoeserBaertschi McCann VirtanenDanny Hank SutterGaunce Horvat HansenCassels Edler DeangeloHutton TanevPedan SubbanTryamkin Sbisa DemkoMarkstrom! Twins go out with a bang! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatedkid666 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Habs need a 2nd line RW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Habs need a 2nd line RWwe need Galchenyuk! Phone JB and tell him to get 'er done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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