DownUndaCanuck Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Obviously Florida love their kid Ekblad and he's their franchise player, but he's exactly what this Canucks team need right now. Our needs on defence are far more than needs on offence, and it'd take a lot to get a franchise defenceman.TO VAN: Aaron EkbladTO FLA: Hamhuis + Virtanen + Vbrata + 1st + 2nd I would have suggested McCann but Florida have plenty of good young centers, Virtanen would look much nicer over there.Why Florida do it? They probably shouldn't, but those are a LOT of high quality pieces Vancouver's offering. No player should be untouchable, Ekblad is close but this trade is essentially (value wise) 2 or 3 first round picks plus two 2nd round picks in value from Vancouver for a high first round pick.Why Vancouver do it? You have to pay quality and quantity to get a guy like Ekblad and he would fill the single biggest hole we have right now - right handed top-4 young defenceman. If I were JB I'd do anything in my power to get anyone who can fill that need and we've got the pieces right now. Hamhuis and Vbrata are replaceable (Hamhuis directly by Ekblad, Vbrata by Shinkaruk/Gaunce and the kids). Virtanen's loss would hurt, even I'll admit that, but Boeser's having a hell of a year, as are Shinkaruk and Gaunce and Baertschi as well. We've got PLENTY of depth on the wing - something the Panthers lack a bit.FLORIDA LINEUP:Jagr - Trocheck - JokinenHuberdeau - Bjugstad - VbrataSmith - Barkov - PirriHowden - Bolland - Virtanen Campbell - GudbransonHamhuis - KulikovMitchell - Petrovic+ 1st round pick + 2nd round pick VANCOUVER LINEUP:Sedin - Sedin - HansenShinkaruk - Sutter - BurrowsBaertschi - Horvat - HigginsDorsett - McCann - Prust Edler - EkbladHutton - TanevSbisa - WeberBartkowski More than anything else I'm trying to highlight the need for a top-4 right handed defenceman and that we have PLENTY of valuable assets we can part with and fill from within, mainly wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlerberry Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 why not just trade for an entire line thoughprust + 5th for crosby, malkin, kessel, letang, maatta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 I would also throw our farm at this point for a young franchise dman. But why does Florida even have to to do this trade? Will Hamhuis and Vrbata bring them a Stanley Cup? No. So they are hoping that Virtanen and that 1st/2nd round picks will turn into something useful. Why not keep Ekblad who is already a franchise player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 For your explanation on why Vancouver makes this deal. You should have wrote down, because Vancouver would be stupid not to, if Tallon asks for those pieces.Also, you forgot to throw in Higgins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Sparkle Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 For your explanation on why Vancouver makes this deal. You should have wrote down, because Vancouver would be stupid not to, if Tallon asks for those pieces.Also, you forgot to throw in Higgins.and hansen. this deal makes no sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 15, 2015 Would anyone do Vbrata + 2nd for Girardi? 30 year old sound defensively, right handed shutdown guy who can help groom Hutton. He's a perfect mentor for him over the next couple of years.Edler - TanevHutton - GirardiHamhuis - Sbisa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat James Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 If you're trading for stud defensemen then Nashville is the team to call, not Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 How about we draft one?Easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Both Vrbata and Hammer have no trade clauses, but I'm sure they''ll waive waive them for you to go to Florida instead of playing out their deals and deciding for themselves over the summer where they want to move their families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 If you're trading for stud defensemen then Nashville is the team to call, not Florida.agree, they can win now and need offense. I'd keep virtanen though - a big skilled guy who can play in the top 6.vrbata and hamhuis while UFAs have more value to NSH.Vrbata + Hamhuis + Jensen + 1st+ Hansen for Jones + 2ndbefore you all say that is not enough - our first round pick is going to be high , especially once we move hammer and vrbata - def top 15, maybe top 10. Hansen could get a late first at the deadline if he keeps this play up, he could put up 20 goals this year if he goes on the PP and the top 2 lines. He also is fast, gritty and excellent defensively, kills penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Wait until the offseason and make a solid offer to Mike Weber in Buffalo. Hard-nosed dman that can put the fear into opposing team's forwards. Won't get a guy like Komarov running around like last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadcanucks Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Both Vrbata and Hammer have no trade clauses, but I'm sure they''ll waive waive them for you to go to Florida instead of playing out their deals and deciding for themselves over the summer where they want to move their families.Seriously man, how many people do you know move their families for a three to four months period only to move again at season's end? If either of these guys consent to getting moved, they will live out of a hotel from the day they are traded and until season's end. Their families will stay put where they are until they sign with whoever.EDIT: Sorry for digressing.IMO, Ekblad ain't going to happen...neither is Seth Jones. The only hope that the Canucks have in landing a bona-fide no. 1 d-man is via UFA or drafting one (in which case it will be 3-5 years before the Canucks actually have their "stud" d-man).If I'm JB, the UFAs I'd be targeting are Kevin Shattenkirk and Dustin Byufglien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANUCK-EXPRESS Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Right... cuz Panthers are willing to trade their stud franchise defenceman for declining players and a rookie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Kane Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 lmaooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Why Florida do it? They probably shouldn't,This ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Hail Mary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 So you'll go so far as to call another poster stupid for simply vocalizing their support for Virtanen yet you have the audacity to post a bullsh*t trade like this? Start with Horvat and Virtanen and you've still got trouble making that deal. Congratulations on being the flagship member of my ignore list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intoewsables Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 I don't know why I keep opening your trade threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAY JAY Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Obviously Florida love their kid Ekblad and he's their franchise player, but he's exactly what this Canucks team need right now. Our needs on defence are far more than needs on offence, and it'd take a lot to get a franchise defenceman.TO VAN: Aaron EkbladTO FLA: Hamhuis + Virtanen + Vbrata + 1st + 2nd Is this the basis of a new stand up routine. It's very funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Seriously man, how many people do you know move their families for a three to four months period only to move again at season's end? If either of these guys consent to getting moved, they will live out of a hotel from the day they are traded and until season's end. Their families will stay put where they are until they sign with whoever.EDIT: Sorry for digressing.IMO, Ekblad ain't going to happen...neither is Seth Jones. The only hope that the Canucks have in landing a bona-fide no. 1 d-man is via UFA or drafting one (in which case it will be 3-5 years before the Canucks actually have their "stud" d-man).If I'm JB, the UFAs I'd be targeting are Kevin Shattenkirk and Dustin Byufglien. I think you need to re-read my post and turn your sarcasm meter to ON because you just said the same thing I said in my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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