Blueberries Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 3 minutes ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: Pedan is not slow...at all. Weber looked slow, Edler is slow, Pedan has good speed and is more agile than Weber or Edler. Edler isn't slow. He has pretty good speed for a guy his size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Just now, Blueberries said: Edler isn't slow. He has pretty good speed for a guy his size. Edler and Bartkowski can't turn around at speed...Bart falls down and Edler has to slow way down. Bart has good speed straight ahead, Edler is only average straight ahead. Pedan and Hutton are better skaters already and should only improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueberries Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 5 minutes ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: Edler and Bartkowski can't turn around at speed...Bart falls down and Edler has to slow way down. Bart has good speed straight ahead, Edler is only average straight ahead. Pedan and Hutton are better skaters already and should only improve. Ah I understand now. Add Sbisa to that as well, even though every time he turns it feels like he's about to fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 18 minutes ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: Edler and Bartkowski can't turn around at speed...Bart falls down and Edler has to slow way down. Bart has good speed straight ahead, Edler is only average straight ahead. Pedan and Hutton are better skaters already and should only improve. 12 minutes ago, Blueberries said: Ah I understand now. Add Sbisa to that as well, even though every time he turns it feels like he's about to fall. Ps... Be very excited about the possibility of Tryamkin next year, i watched the Spengler game early this am.. He is NHL ready, just needs convincing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 17 minutes ago, Blueberries said: Ah I understand now. Add Sbisa to that as well, even though every time he turns it feels like he's about to fall. Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Pedan looked excellent last night. Played a simple and very physical game. I'm hoping this convinces management to leave him up. He fills a very obvious need on the blueline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Pedan, Tryamkin, Sbisa, our D looks a lot tougher by next year. Should be fun to watch. Sure enjoyed Pedan manhandling the Oilers last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniwaki Canuck Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 40 minutes ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: Pedan is not slow...at all. Weber looked slow, Edler is slow, Pedan has good speed and is more agile than Weber or Edler. I agree that he's plenty fast enough once he gets going, but he isn't quick in the sense that his first step isn't powerful enough to get off the mark quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canorth Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 3 minutes ago, Maniwaki Canuck said: I agree that he's plenty fast enough once he gets going, but he isn't quick in the sense that his first step isn't powerful enough to get off the mark quickly. Its hard to imgaine him improving that initial step, given the length of those legs. However, that wing span should compensate for any initial ground lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Prophet Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 7 minutes ago, Canorth said: Its hard to imgaine him improving that initial step, given the length of those legs. However, that wing span should compensate for any initial ground lost. Exactly. Larger defencemen don't need to be fast if they know how use their physical gifts. I can't recall ever thinking Chara was fast on his skates, but he's very smart. He uses his large stick and his long legs to cover long distances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Ben Kuzma @benkuzma #Comets coach Travis Green on recalled Andrey Pedan: “In good games, he’s a real solid defender, closes quick and eliminates guys.” #Canucks 3:07 PM - 23 Nov 2015 Kinda like yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniwaki Canuck Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 2 hours ago, Canorth said: Its hard to imgaine him improving that initial step, given the length of those legs. However, that wing span should compensate for any initial ground lost. Draisaitl, who has similar size, did it last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted December 29, 2015 Author Share Posted December 29, 2015 Solid game for AP against the Kings. Nice to see him get extra ice in the 3rd (regardless of the score). Brings that element we've missed since Harold Snepts played. ...But Andrey is showing he has more to offer than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bissurnette Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 On 12/27/2015 at 0:30 PM, PhillipBlunt said: Pedan looked excellent last night. Played a simple and very physical game. I'm hoping this convinces management to leave him up. He fills a very obvious need on the blueline. You know I'm all for size and physicality especially on the backend, and Pedan looked like a future NHLer for sure. But imo, he'd benefit more from refining his skills (skating, puck handling and passing) down in the AHL for the remainder of this year when injured players start coming back, and joining the team next year full time. He and Tryamkin have me REALLY excited about the D core next year, but for this year I think we will have to manage with what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieBush Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Tbh I didn't think pedan had a great game last night, he looked lost at times and chased the play a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 8 minutes ago, ReggieBush said: Tbh I didn't think pedan had a great game last night, he looked lost at times and chased the play a lot I agree - I noticed a tendency to freelance in his zone - pursuing all over the place - but at the same time, there was generally a forward parked in his spot at the time, and I wouldn't necessarily fault his intent or aggressiveness because at least he's applying pressure and taking away time and space. It can be problematic if there are guys left wide open as a result, but in those instances I think he considered himself switched off and playing a forward's role temporarily. I also agree with the observation that he could continue to refine his skating and puck handling - but I'm actually more impressed with him than I'd expected to be. He looked quite a bit less refined in his decision making in the preseason imo and is coming along nicely. The size, edge and heaviness he brings, and that shot - quite promising. If he earns a spot in the future, between him and Sbisa, the blueline starts to have more bite in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 23 minutes ago, oldnews said: I agree - I noticed a tendency to freelance in his zone - pursuing all over the place - but at the same time, there was generally a forward parked in his spot at the time, and I wouldn't necessarily fault his intent or aggressiveness because at least he's applying pressure and taking away time and space. It can be problematic if there are guys left wide open as a result, but in those instances I think he considered himself switched off and playing a forward's role temporarily. I also agree with the observation that he could continue to refine his skating and puck handling - but I'm actually more impressed with him than I'd expected to be. He looked quite a bit less refined in his decision making in the preseason imo and is coming along nicely. The size, edge and heaviness he brings, and that shot - quite promising. If he earns a spot in the future, between him and Sbisa, the blueline starts to have more bite in it. I have been very pessimistic about the d-core depth this past year. Surprise, Hutton makes the team and now, hopefully, so has Beiga. Never seen Pedan play a game before the last two but he looks very promising. If Tryamkin can make it next year the look changes a lot. Keep Edler, Tanev and Sibsa, perhaps Bartkowski and move the rest. Hopefully Hamhuis is healthy enough for a trade and Weber as a throw in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 4 minutes ago, Boudrias said: I have been very pessimistic about the d-core depth this past year. Surprise, Hutton makes the team and now, hopefully, so has Beiga. Never seen Pedan play a game before the last two but he looks very promising. If Tryamkin can make it next year the look changes a lot. Keep Edler, Tanev and Sibsa, perhaps Bartkowski and move the rest. Hopefully Hamhuis is healthy enough for a trade and Weber as a throw in. Subban is off to a very impressive start in the A as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 38 minutes ago, Boudrias said: I have been very pessimistic about the d-core depth this past year. Surprise, Hutton makes the team and now, hopefully, so has Beiga. Never seen Pedan play a game before the last two but he looks very promising. If Tryamkin can make it next year the look changes a lot. Keep Edler, Tanev and Sibsa, perhaps Bartkowski and move the rest. Hopefully Hamhuis is healthy enough for a trade and Weber as a throw in. We actually have pretty good future 4-8 prospect depth, particularly on the left. What we lack is top 4 and ESPECIALLY top 2 capable depth. We have a couple of promising "maybes" but very little in the way of what one would consider "blue chip". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfstonker Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 1 hour ago, oldnews said: I agree - I noticed a tendency to freelance in his zone - pursuing all over the place - but at the same time, there was generally a forward parked in his spot at the time, and I wouldn't necessarily fault his intent or aggressiveness because at least he's applying pressure and taking away time and space. It can be problematic if there are guys left wide open as a result, but in those instances I think he considered himself switched off and playing a forward's role temporarily. I also agree with the observation that he could continue to refine his skating and puck handling - but I'm actually more impressed with him than I'd expected to be. He looked quite a bit less refined in his decision making in the preseason imo and is coming along nicely. The size, edge and heaviness he brings, and that shot - quite promising. If he earns a spot in the future, between him and Sbisa, the blueline starts to have more bite in it. Mostly agree with that but thought he came on stronger as the game went on. His stick handling seemed above average and that slapper - wow! He eats up distance with that big stride and I like how he is "infected" with the Biega "if in doubt claim the man" Considering he is only 22 years of age he looks like someone who can be developed into a nice asset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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