Drewismyname Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 1 minute ago, J.R. said: Because, as has been pointed out to you, he's not a 'liability'. He's overtaxed being played as a #1D that he isn't, because of a lack of better options. Our problem isn't Edler, it's a lack of both quality and depth of D. With the amount of money paid to him, for the services of a liability (makes the team worse), he shouldn't even be on this team let alone playing #1 D minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Soldier Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 9 minutes ago, Drewismyname said: I don't have any more questions for you bud. You called me out questioning my statement of not supporting whipping boys and scapegoating. The next question is on you, seeing as you ignored " And that = me supporting scapegoating and having a whipping boy? " I am now aware that you're just trying to argue with me, as you probably have a collection of Edler posters on your wall, or maybe he's your uncle, or whatever. And I like how you assume the role of speaking for the board by using the term "us" while a fair amount of people agree with my statements. Nice try. What the hell are you going on about? I was questioning the point of the thread, not defending Edler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 wow CDC is so insecure. Literally have to dig up scapegoats whenever we go on losing streaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 1 hour ago, DIBdaQUIB said: He plays better with less minutes. Would be a good 2nd pairing D-man. Regardless...he won't waive and we don't have anyone in the system capable of taking on #1 ice-time and duties. JB has his work cut out for him. My thoughts exactly. I think he's being relied on too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewismyname Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 1 minute ago, Winter Soldier said: What the hell are you going on about? I was questioning the point of the thread, not defending Edler. Discussing the Canucks. That's kinda why we are on this board, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Kane Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 9 minutes ago, Edlerberry said: harmonic isn't and won't be a number 1, wow Did I say he currently is? - No Will he be a #1? Possibly. He's a complete defenseman, and no reason to believe he can't get better. (Look at Hamhuis for example, his best years were between 28-31) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 3 minutes ago, Drewismyname said: With the amount of money paid to him, for the services of a liability (makes the team worse), he shouldn't even be on this team let alone playing #1 D minutes. Congrats, that's the stupidest post you've made in this thread of stupid posts. Where's the minus button? He gets paid above average 2nd pair/below average 1st pair money. He isn't actually a liability and our D would be infinitely worse without him. Who the hell do we have that's better that would replace his minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanNuck Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I've been a medium fan of Edler - he's supposed to be marked as a poor man's Lidstrom, and during his best days, he really was one of the top blueliners in the league. In retrospect though, Edler benefited from having Luongo in net, plus Hamhuis and Bieksa in their peak days. Break up that core, let the others get older, everyone falls apart. I think we are best off trading Edler and Vrbata, plus another forward for a real #1 blueliner. Edler is more likely than Hamhuis to fetch value in a trade. Edler would be best served playing somewhere where he doesn't have to be the number one guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken. Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 51 minutes ago, Apple Juice said: He hasn't been the same since his back surgery. This is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Soldier Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Quote This is not a troll post, nor is it a hate on for Edler. 10 minutes ago, Drewismyname said: With the amount of money paid to him, for the services of a liability (makes the team worse), he shouldn't even be on this team let alone playing #1 D minutes. 4 minutes ago, Drewismyname said: Please, next time don't suggest I am in support of scapegoating, as that is an extremely disrespectful thing to say. O k a y d e r e b u d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Interesting stats from TSN about defencemen with 100+ points since 2010-1011: DEFENCEMEN WITH 100+ POINTS, 300+ PIM SINCE 2010-2011 PLAYER TEAM GP PTS PIM Dustin ByfuglienWPG 357 245 447 P.K. Subban MTL 383 242 469 Drew Doughty LA 379 192 307 Mark Giordano CGY 335 186 304 Zdeno Chara BOS 363 185 362 Dion Phaneuf TOR 365 173 523 Kevin Bieksa ANA 335 119 426 Travis Hamonic NYI 342 114 367 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desiboynux4lifee******* Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 great video, and yes you nailed it Edler needs to get outta here, now is the time to move him, atleast before Snow watches your video lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 thanks for your opinion...is it alright if some of us less knowledgeable fans disagree with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewismyname Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 18 minutes ago, J.R. said: Cngrats, that's the stupidest post you've made in this thread of stupid posts. Where's the minus button? He gets paid above average 2nd pair/below average 1st pair money. He isn't actually a liability and our D would be infinitely worse without him. Who the hell do we have that's better that would replace his minutes? oo more personal insults. Great! He isn't a liability? Did you watch the video? Series tied with Boston and he is a part of three defensive breakdowns, leading to them going up 3-0 in their own building? One of which was him watching Marchand walk around him and score shorthanded. (first minute or so of the video) How about passing Richards the puck in a 2-2 tied game vs LA and then calmly watching Carter score to eliminate us, at home? (2:16) Okay, so you aren't sold yet? How about pinching in OT, getting walked, vs san Jose at home game 2? (2:48) Then there's game 4 elimination OT when he skated into Schneider after rushing to the point on the PK, leaving a shark wide open to score. (3:40) How about passing David Jones the puck in Calgary, game 4, for him to score on miller to start the game? (4:44) How about passing jones the puck again, elimination game, tied 4-4, 3 minutes to go in the game? Losing us the series. I think when the game is tied and you're facing elimination, passing the other team the puck is probably a bad idea. (5:00) He's a liability. Terrible under pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 When the Canucks are top contenders again, I see Edler being a solid 2nd pairing D-man and the Sedins anchoring the 2nd line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Here's the catch unless you have a solution then we're just flapping lips. You get rid of Edler ( leading scorer from the blue line last year) ....who do you replace him with if we has another guy to step into his role great....and you certainly don't deal a guy when he's at his worst because the return will reflect that. IMO Edler plays a pretty simple game....don't try and refine or chnage his game let him play the game he's best suited to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainism Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 5 minutes ago, Fred65 said: Here's the catch unless you have a solution then we're just flapping lips. You get rid of Edler ( leading scorer from the blue line last year) ....who do you replace him with if we has another guy to step into his role great....and you certainly don't deal a guy when he's at his worst because the return will reflect that. IMO Edler plays a pretty simple game....don't try and refine or chnage his game let him play the game he's best suited to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Wow, didn't make it 6 weeks into the season before we start shredding the players. Right now I'm much more worried about the Bartkowski Bungles than Edler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desiboynux4lifee******* Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 6 minutes ago, Fred65 said: Here's the catch unless you have a solution then we're just flapping lips. You get rid of Edler ( leading scorer from the blue line last year) ....who do you replace him with if we has another guy to step into his role great....and you certainly don't deal a guy when he's at his worst because the return will reflect that. IMO Edler plays a pretty simple game....don't try and refine or chnage his game let him play the game he's best suited to um you get young prospects and picks in return and wait? Edler is what he is, you can't ever win a CUP with players that crack under pressure. some of the plays in the video are unacceptable. Again the hawks ran with 4 Defence during the Cup finals this year, this type of stuff matters. Who cares if he is putting points up in the regular season, if he can't perform under pressure whats the need for him; I say trade him and get some younger prospects that have a high ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 44 minutes ago, Edlerberry said: harmonic isn't and won't be a number 1, wow Well Harmonic isn't even in the NHL but Hamonic is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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