Warhippy Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Just wondering but, Sedins don't deserve what exactly? To be top 10 in league scoring? To be revered and loved by this team the city and the fans? To be emulated league wide? To have coaches and players lose their minds trying to find plays to break them? I know what they don't deserve. Fans always trying to say what's best for them. Maybe just maybe staying home with their family in the city they love is more important to them than going somewhere else for parts like they're not wanted anymore for the "sake of the team" Just a thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 The twins deserve to play where they want to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 The Sedins are smart enough to know what was coming when they signed those last contracts. If they would like to move on at some point, JB should try to accommodate them. If they want to retire as Canucks, they should be granted that wish, too. Either way is fine. What I would not do is try to put a winning team around them trying for some last gasp shot at a Cup. Thank goodness Benning won't be doing anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 The Sedins are smart enough to know what was coming when they signed those last contracts. If they would like to move on at some point, JB should try to accommodate them. If they want to retire as Canucks, they should be granted that wish, too. Either way is fine. What I would not do is try to put a winning team around them trying for some last gasp shot at a Cup. Thank goodness Benning won't be doing anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedin Brothers Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Please trade them. They deserve a cup. Not to rot on this team. Give them a chance to make an impact on a team. Not coattail on a fourth line when they're old as $&!# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 The time to lose the Sedins was before they re-signed. Upon that, their path was set in stone and they will retire Canucks as their best players to-date, collecting reg. season statistical hallmarks along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowardrobertford Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 We'll be demoted to the AHL if they were traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 7 minutes ago, Cowardrobertford said: We'll be demoted to the AHL if they were demoted if they were traded. I think you are missing a comma somewhere. That sentence don't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nom_de_plume Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 10 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: Edler needs to go somewhere where he doesn't screw up the Sedins mojo. Guantanamo Bay anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 For $7 million a year I would play for the Canucks! Heck, I'd do it for $200,000! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Here are a top 10 of players who also didn't "deserve" it either...But I still consider them some of the greatest players ever. Which is how I'll remember the Sedin's, Cup or not. #10 – Jean Ratelle - Inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1985. Known as one of the most gentlemanly players to ever play the game, Ratelle never had more than 28 penalty minutes in one of his 21 NHL seasons. He was also a phenomenal passer, face-off specialist and retired in 1981 number six on the all-time points list. Even though he walked away with no cup he helped win the 1972 Summit Series as a member of Team Canada. #9 – Brad Park - Inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1988. He played 18 seasons with three teams and was a nine time NHL all-star. Thanks to Bobby Orr, Park was also a six time runner up for the Norris Trophy as the leagues best defenseman. Still after his retirement, which was nearly 25 years ago, he is currently the 11 th highest scoring defenseman in history. Too add to the pain, Park never once missed making the playoffs, just missed succeeding in them. #8 – Gilbert Perrault - Inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1990. He played his entire 17 year career with the Buffalo Sabres and was the franchises inaugural player. This nine time all-star earned “rookie of the year” in 1971 and led his team in every category. Perrault has played in 90 playoff games but his Sabres could never finish the deal. In 1975, Buffalo finished first in their division and dominated every opponent until the Stanley Cup finals where they lost to the Flyers four games to two. Never would he get closer to taste the champagne. #7 – Borje Salming - Inducted into The Hockey Hall of Fame in 1996. The godfather of European players in the NHL, Salming was a key person in opening the game for players overseas. He played 16 seasons in the NHL but 15 of them with the Toronto Maple Leafs where his jersey and number was retired. Salming was a very well rounded defenseman in all aspects of the game and also had five straight seasons with 100 plus penalty minutes. By the way, when was the last time the Maple Leafs won the cup? #6 – Peter Stastny - Inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1998. He was the first NHL player to earn 100 plus points during a rookie season (Gretzky did not technically have a rookie NHL season). Stastny would also go on and score 100 plus points in seven of his first eight seasons and be known as one of the best Europeans to play in the league. He was a pretty good playoff player but just not good enough to carry a team to the holy land. Maybe his son Peter will have better luck in future years with the Colorado Avalanche. #5 – Darryl Sittler - Inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1989. Sittler is a lot more then the man known for his unbreakable record of 10 points in one game (six goals, four assists). He scored nearly 1200 points and had over 1000 penalty minutes in a 15 year career. Sittler actually had nine seasons with 35 or more goals. No doubt a legend in Maple Leaf land but it usually Stanley Cups that count and he has less than one. By the way, when was the last time the Maple Leafs won the cup? #4 – Dale Hawerchuk - Inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 2001. Hawerchuk seemed to have an amazing career while being under the radar. He scored over 100 points in six of his first seven seasons and went 13 straight seasons with more than 80 points. This man was responsible for leading Winnipeg Jets to a 48 point turn-around in his first season in the league but no cup. Even with Buffalo, Philadelphia and St. Louis, Lord Stanley never came close. #3 – Mike Gartner - Inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 2001. Gartner didn't win a Cup during his 19 season career; actually he didn't win any kind of NHL award at all, unless you consider the all-star game MVP and award. No MVP's, no Lady Byng's, no Calder, nothing. This guy scored 30 plus goals in 15 straight seasons, a record that Jaromir Jagr is currently tide with. Gartner was a very fast, consistent player who gave 100% every second of every shift. A long career with the Capitals and stints with the North Stars, Rangers Maple Leafs and Coyotes gave him three legitimate Cup opportunities with no reward. #2 – Pat LaFontaine - Inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 2003. Lafontaine started his career in 1983 with the New York Islanders; too bad for him it was at the end of the Isles dynasty. His rookie season was the first and last time he would see the Stanley Cup finals in a five game loss to the Edmonton Oilers. It was unbelievable to watch him on the ice where he combined a snipers touch with an accurate play making ability. Unfortunately for LaFontaine, he barely played over 900 NHL games and seemed to be injured half of his career, mainly with concussions that lead to his early retirement in 1999. Even though he averaged well over a point a game during his career, he never once held the most pinnacle trophy in the sport. And my winner for the best player who has not won the Stanley Cup in NHL history goes to… #1 – Marcel Dionne - Inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1992. Six seasons with 50 or more goals, eight seasons with 100 or more points, nine post season appearances and zero Stanley Cups for Dionne. He played for Detroit, Los Angeles and the Rangers who are all legitimate teams but no luck. His much younger and less talented brother Gilbert won a cup with Montreal in 1993; imagine the Christmas dinner bragging rights talk. Dionne was and still is one of the best 25 players to ever play in a NHL arena. He has been awarded with two Lester B. Pearson and Lady Byng trophies but never a Stanley Cup. http://www.prohockey-fans.com/hockey-articles/top-10-cupless-players_012809.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 11 hours ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Sorry, heard what JB publicly stated, but our team is headed for the ditch. Send the twins out East. Let the prime-time masses appreciate the beauty of their genius. As a bonus, we'd likely get to add 2 or 3 young gems to really get the future percolatin'. Rebuilds are like true romance-it's 100% or nuthin..let's stop kidding ourselves. Lastly, use allopening cap space to take on useless bums(on 1 or 2 yr term remaining deals; with accompanying youth & size). Lets stockpile young futures. Use our 71 mill as a dirty, old sponge to soak up other franchises messy excess. The only major issue with this team is Hutton and Sutter's injuries. Before that it was Sbisa and Prust's injuries. The Canucns are fine. I don't expect you to like losing, I don't like it either. But to suggest trading the Sedins, who have stated hey wanted to stay, as did their GM, is asking to blow it up for the sake of tanking. Your motive has been revealed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 11 hours ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Sorry, heard what JB publicly stated, but our team is headed for the ditch. Send the twins out East. Let the prime-time masses appreciate the beauty of their genius. As a bonus, we'd likely get to add 2 or 3 young gems to really get the future percolatin'. Rebuilds are like true romance-it's 100% or nuthin..let's stop kidding ourselves. Lastly, use allopening cap space to take on useless bums(on 1 or 2 yr term remaining deals; with accompanying youth & size). Lets stockpile young futures. Use our 71 mill as a dirty, old sponge to soak up other franchises messy excess. What the twins don't need is someone else pretending to decide their fate. I'm sure they can work out what they want among each other - and let GMJB know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowardrobertford Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 1 hour ago, oldnews said: What the twins don't need is someone else pretending to decide their fate. I'm sure they can work out what they want among each other - and let GMJB know. They already did, the sedins are retiring as a Canucks, and in the interviews of benning he said he is honoring their wish. Don't know about that negotiating thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 4 minutes ago, Cowardrobertford said: They already did, the sedins are retiring as a Canucks, and in the interviews of benning he said he is honoring their wish. Don't know about that negotiating thing Yes - was aware of that but thanks, it furthers my point. Apparently they don't deserve what they want - to stay in Vancouver. The OP ironically pretends to speak for someone else while contradicting what they themselves actually have stated. Moral high ground failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Let's give the center of the universe people our players that don't want to go there. Take on some cap dumps. And ahoy, we're off to future success. Sounds genius to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchoball Cannons Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 13 hours ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Sorry, heard what JB publicly stated, but our team is headed for the ditch. Send the twins out East. Let the prime-time masses appreciate the beauty of their genius. As a bonus, we'd likely get to add 2 or 3 young gems to really get the future percolatin'. Rebuilds are like true romance-it's 100% or nuthin..let's stop kidding ourselves. Lastly, use allopening cap space to take on useless bums(on 1 or 2 yr term remaining deals; with accompanying youth & size). Lets stockpile young futures. Use our 71 mill as a dirty, old sponge to soak up other franchises messy excess. Ya lets do it! lets be the Oilers! That model is working so well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robongo Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 55 minutes ago, Robongo said: That is BAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 The Sedins don't want to be traded, and therefore, will not be going anywhere. I would guess they would even prefer to take half the pay to remain Canucks. Bold, yes. Being traded as a player involves more than packing a suitcase and reporting to a new team. The Sedins are settled here, theyre invested. Their kids have grown up here, go to school, they have spouses and homes, they play a huge roll in Vancouver charities, etc. Im sure they would love to win a Cup and they may even believe the Canucks can still do it while they are on the team. God bless their hearts. But unless they ask for a trade, they will retire here., and I cant see them wanting to relocate. Extremely loyal players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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