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15 hours ago, Cowardrobertford said:

Could you insult McCann, Bo horvart, Virt, baerchi, and burr too

I can if you'd like. What would you like me to say?

And why can't you do it yourself. Its pretty easy if you have something to say.

I actually like McCann, horvart (sic) and Virt though.

Burr is old and needs to go and I have already said lots about baerchi (sic) if you'd care to look.

 But its interesting you bring Baertschi up because I was originally going to put him on that line, but decided Prust was more deserving. I don't really have a problem with Beartschi because like Vey before him, he is in the difficult spot of not being fast, skilled or fearless enough to play in this league. That is not his fault, its on management. That said, I think yesterday was his best game despite the 2 brutal give aways, I liked his diving poke check late in the game.

As for Prust and Vrbata, I'll go out on a short limb here and say I think they have both just played the best game they will ever play in a Canuck uni. But even then who can blame them as they along with Hamhius are on expiring contracts and probably none of them want to get injured before they sign a new deal. Again that is on management.

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3 minutes ago, lmm said:

I can if you'd like. What would you like me to say?

And why can't you do it yourself. Its pretty easy if you have something to say.

I actually like McCann, horvart (sic) and Virt though.

Burr is old and needs to go and I have already said lots about baerchi (sic) if you'd care to look.

 But its interesting you bring Baertschi up because I was originally going to put him on that line, but decided Prust was more deserving. I don't really have a problem with Beartschi because like Vey before him, he is in the difficult spot of not being fast, skilled or fearless enough to play in this league. That is not his fault, its on management. That said, I think yesterday was his best game despite the 2 brutal give aways, I liked his diving poke check late in the game.

As for Prust and Vrbata, I'll go out on a short limb here and say I think they have both just played the best game they will ever play in a Canuck uni. But even then who can blame them as they along with Hamhius are on expiring contracts and probably none of them want to get injured before they sign a new deal. Again that is on management.

I mean, it might get the guys going if you say bad things about them, that was all.

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4 hours ago, Boudrias said:

You actually had Canuck fans on here willing to sign a contagion like Semin. Seriously?

lol No kidding right? He'd just take up a roster spot more than anything.

I'm not surprised he cleared waivers at all. I wouldn't be surprised if he's played his last game in the NHL.

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On 2015-12-07, 10:44:14, nuckin_futz said:

They did before their problems came to light. That's the key. What management gave Radulov his last contract? Hint, he gets paid in Rubles.

Kassian is currently ineligible to play in the NHL. If he cant right the ship he will never get another contract anyway. Not that NHL GM's will be beating down his door when he gets out of STAGE 2 of the league's drug program.

Semin was so sought after he signed a one year deal for peanuts then was told to beat it.

Seems common sense is not so common.

 

According to the Substance Abuse agreement, after the first time a player tests positive, he is suspended without pay for 20 games. After the 2nd time, the player is suspended without pay for 60 games. Kassian missed the last 20 games of the regular season last year, so it is possible that he won't be eligible to return until the 61st game of this season. If that doesn't wake him up to reality, nothing will.

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13 minutes ago, RWMc1 said:

According to the Substance Abuse agreement, after the first time a player tests positive, he is suspended without pay for 20 games. After the 2nd time, the player is suspended without pay for 60 games. Kassian missed the last 20 games of the regular season last year, so it is possible that he won't be eligible to return until the 61st game of this season. If that doesn't wake him up to reality, nothing will.

Question:  Why did the Canucks hide this problem with Kassian for so long?

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1 hour ago, TOMapleLaughs said:

Question:  Why did the Canucks hide this problem with Kassian for so long?

Out of respect for Kassian I'd imagine, as well as because it wouldn't look good on Vancouver. Remember how much negative publicity the Kings got with Stoll and Richards getting busted for drugs? Same would have applied to Vancouver. If the media knew, not only would Vancouver get a crap ton of flak for it, but the media hounds would be all over Kassian. Besides, some matters should be private, and I think this is one. 

 

As for Semin, can't say I'll miss watching him mail in every game.

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Just now, HC20.0 said:

Out of respect for Kassian I'd imagine, as well as because it wouldn't look good on Vancouver. Remember how much negative publicity the Kings got with Stoll and Richards getting busted for drugs? Same would have applied to Vancouver. If the media knew, not only would Vancouver get a crap ton of flak for it, but the media hounds would be all over Kassian. Besides, some matters should be private, and I think this is one. 

Yeah, but if they just put it out there it's not like people or media will be unsympathetic.  We've dealt with players with personal problems before and at times it can go too far.  RIP Rick Rypien.  Just wondering how the Canucks could possibly get any flak for addressing Kassian's issues, which at the end of the day were to go public no matter what.  Actually, not going public with it might be deserving of more flak imho.

I believe the media knew anyway, but were seemingly gagged.  But to what end?  Out of respect to Kassian?  Alright.  But now look.  At what point does he have to be taken aside and told this is what's going to happen, bro.

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4 hours ago, RWMc1 said:

According to the Substance Abuse agreement, after the first time a player tests positive, he is suspended without pay for 20 games. After the 2nd time, the player is suspended without pay for 60 games. Kassian missed the last 20 games of the regular season last year, so it is possible that he won't be eligible to return until the 61st game of this season. If that doesn't wake him up to reality, nothing will.

So the 20, then 60, then ban only applies to PED's. Apparently Kassian will be able to return when the Substance Abuse Program clears him. Sorry for the mis-info.

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10 hours ago, TOMapleLaughs said:

Yeah, but if they just put it out there it's not like people or media will be unsympathetic.  We've dealt with players with personal problems before and at times it can go too far.  RIP Rick Rypien.  Just wondering how the Canucks could possibly get any flak for addressing Kassian's issues, which at the end of the day were to go public no matter what.  Actually, not going public with it might be deserving of more flak imho.

I believe the media knew anyway, but were seemingly gagged.  But to what end?  Out of respect to Kassian?  Alright.  But now look.  At what point does he have to be taken aside and told this is what's going to happen, bro.

Hamhuis got hit in the jaw and immediately the forum was littered with people complaining about his trade value going down. Do you really think these people would sympathize with Kassian's drug issues?

Besides sympathy, I think personal issues should remain exactly that: personal. It's no different than if someone's going through medical issues or depression or whatever. Confidentiality is important. It's unfortunate that Kassian had to continue sloping down until his incident that ultimately opened the case to the public, but sometimes that happens. C'est la vie. It still doesn't mean it should be open to the public before that time.

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8 hours ago, The Lock said:

Hamhuis got hit in the jaw and immediately the forum was littered with people complaining about his trade value going down. Do you really think these people would sympathize with Kassian's drug issues?

Besides sympathy, I think personal issues should remain exactly that: personal. It's no different than if someone's going through medical issues or depression or whatever. Confidentiality is important. It's unfortunate that Kassian had to continue sloping down until his incident that ultimately opened the case to the public, but sometimes that happens. C'est la vie. It still doesn't mean it should be open to the public before that time.

Trolls?  No.  Real fans?  Yes.

We've been through multiple tragedies here and I've already mention Rick Rypien RIP.  We would have sympathized.

I believe that if he needed this level of help during his time here, then he should've received it, and who knows, perhaps he did.  The secretive nature of it is irrelevant I guess, but considering we traded him and Montreal appeared to be blindsided, it just looks a bit shady, doesn't it?

I'm concerned because after the Rypien tragedy it appears, 'appears', that the Canucks haven't learned a damn thing about how to handle these things.  And appearances are all that matters.

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