JamesB Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 51 minutes ago, Ryanstorm said: Vrbata: Good player, bad year for him probably won't get a 1st. Hamhuis: Also a great player, but probably not a 1st either. Burrows: Decent player, maybe a 3rd. Higgins: Not consistent, AHL prospect, 5th round? Prust: Same as Higgins. I'm not saying trade them all for picks as we'd have multiple holes in the team that already has holes but that's what I think we'd get for them. I'd hope we can find that 1st line player for the Sedins (although Hansen is usually good with them) hopefully upgrade our defense a bit and have a future team that will be a good one. Good assessment, but I am hoping these guys play well enough to get upgraded. If Vrby and Hammer play well from now till the deadline, first round picks might be possible. And Burrows might be worth a second. I agree that any pick for Higgins or Prust would be good. I wonder if Weber or Bartkowski (also on expiring contracts) could be worth a low draft pick (5th - 7th round). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Positive Canuck Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Vrbata, Burrows, Higgins, Hamhuis , Dorsett,Prust + Edler + Weber and Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 52 minutes ago, Shift-4 said: Proposals section? 33 minutes ago, oldnews said: Extra points for originality and avoiding redundancy. Yeah, not much new and exciting here to talk about. There have been lots of suggestions for who to deal and for what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Huh, first double post in ages... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 49 minutes ago, stawns said: I'm not sure why everyone is focusing on picks, I'm betting JB is looking at prospects in the 20-22 range as more attractive targets. More attractive targets in terms of their stage of development, but what team is going to be willing to give up a stud 20-22 year old defenceman that they've been working hard to develop? Willing to part with that kind of dman is probably a sign that things are not as good as they appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 1) The canucks aren't in a playoff spot right now. 2) I applaud you for being realistic, and realising that Hamhuis and Vrbata aren't worth a 1st rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 22 minutes ago, Down by the River said: More attractive targets in terms of their stage of development, but what team is going to be willing to give up a stud 20-22 year old defenceman that they've been working hard to develop? Willing to part with that kind of dman is probably a sign that things are not as good as they appear. Teams like Washington who are contenders who might be willing to move a Bowey in a deal to put them into the top contender category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Just now, stawns said: Teams like Washington who are contenders who might be willing to move a Bowey in a deal to put them into the top contender category. I agree with that, but only if the pending UFA were closer to their prime, not at the tail-end of their productive careers unfortunately - which is basically only what we have to offer in Hammer, Virby. You get a Bowey+ for a high caliber UFA like Stamkos/Kopitar - not a Hammer/Virby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuongo Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 ^ Bowey would be perfect. Don't know how we would ever get him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 52 minutes ago, Fozzy said: Looks like myself and a few others were right about tanking being the best thing for this hockey club. No point clinging onto the dreams that 'if we make the playoffs anythican happen' fantasy. Although amazingly...some will continue to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 At least the op bunched them altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I think this thread has forgotten the most obvious choice: Hansen. If he keeps playing with the Sedins, he will undoubtedly rack up the points. He's the closest veteran we have that's worth a first rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 1 hour ago, Fozzy said: Looks like myself and a few others were right about tanking being the best thing for this hockey club. No point clinging onto the dreams that 'if we make the playoffs anythican happen' fantasy. This. I still remember when everybody was saying this on CDC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 24 minutes ago, Zuongo said: ^ Bowey would be perfect. Don't know how we would ever get him though. Vrbata and either a mid-level prospect or pick. It would be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahyoung Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Prust's contract is up this year and when it is he'll probably look seriously at re-signing in Montreal. That being known, what team other than Montreal would take him, and even then why wouldn't they just wait till the end of the season and sign him for free? Agree on most else. The NTC's will bite us here big time, even in a seller's market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 40 minutes ago, Fanuck said: I agree with that, but only if the pending UFA were closer to their prime, not at the tail-end of their productive careers unfortunately - which is basically only what we have to offer in Hammer, Virby. You get a Bowey+ for a high caliber UFA like Stamkos/Kopitar - not a Hammer/Virby. 11 minutes ago, stawns said: Vrbata and either a mid-level prospect or pick. It would be worth it. Don't you remember Stawns? If there is a young prospect on another team that has never played a NHL game but MIGHT project to be a top4 D/Top 6 F, the team that has him demands a superstar for him in a trade....oh and that the Canucks have nothing attractive to trade for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 28 minutes ago, stawns said: Vrbata and either a mid-level prospect or pick. It would be worth it. So, essentially you are suggesting that Virby and a Grenier-type player would get us Bowey? I'd really like to believe that could happen, but I do not think that would do it especially since Virby isn't exactly lighting the league up so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 The OP has his views, & I won't quibble. Only problem I have is usage of the term 'mathematically' in the month of Dec. AVOID this word like the plague. We'll hear it endlessly from Jan onwards, one would suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenman92 Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 2 hours ago, stawns said: I'm not sure why everyone is focusing on picks, I'm betting JB is looking at prospects in the 20-22 range as more attractive targets. Let's hope not...so far, not exactly a strength of his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 54 minutes ago, Fanuck said: So, essentially you are suggesting that Virby and a Grenier-type player would get us Bowey? I'd really like to believe that could happen, but I do not think that would do it especially since Virby isn't exactly lighting the league up so far. more like a Shinkaruk, Jensen, Gaunce type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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