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With an incredibly weak Pacific, Benning should load up for one more Sedin run

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Frazzy Desjardins Canucks Rookie

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Id say the kings under achieved during the season and then played to their potential during that cup run. Maybe I should have re written that, the devils were the big underdogs in my opinion. An over the hill Marty Brodeur and just off the top of my head other than Parise and an also over the hill Patrik Elias, I  cant think of any big threats that team had, and they made it all the way to game 5 of the cup finals.

 

anything can happen.

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2 minutes ago, Frazzy Desjardins said:

Id say the kings under achieved during the season and then played to their potential during that cup run. Maybe I should have re written that, the devils were the big underdogs in my opinion. An over the hill Marty Brodeur and just off the top of my head other than Parise and an also over the hill Patrik Elias, I  cant think of any big threats that team had, and they made it all the way to game 5 of the cup finals.

 

anything can happen.

Umm those teams had a guy named Doughty and the NJ Devils had a legend named scott Niedermayer.

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4 minutes ago, desiboynux4lifee******* said:

Umm those teams had a guy named Doughty and the NJ Devils had a legend named scott Niedermayer.

ummmmmm i already said i was talking about the devils not the kings when talking about underdogs and anything can happen.... also those 2 teams faced off for the mug in 2012 and scotty retired in 2010.................................

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8 hours ago, Frazzy Desjardins said:

It would definitely be a CINDERELLA story, no one is saying we are contenders. I think it would be worth a shot.  I think Benning and the new scouting staff can draft talent no matter what the draft position. I see us being both sellers and buyers at the deadline if we can squeeze in a wild card spot. A first round exit is more than likely but it's better than tanking.

They are ready now.

I think we are seeing a different Henrik and Daniel out on the ice this season. It's almost as if they are saying  - "f----it lets kick out the jams m----rs"

 

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I love how Hutton is straight in on the other guy.

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7 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said:

I'm not saying we SHOULD go all in for the Cup, that would be pretty damn stupid. I'm just saying that the Sedins and Edler are still damn close to their prime. Edler has had good and bad games all season long but he's still a game changer and he just broke open that Rangers game almost by himself. Credit to the Sedins but that was a perfect shot and perfect pass. Edler's still got it and it annoys me when people harp on one or two bad giveaways here and there. Plus he's quietly racking up points as well. He and Tanev have been the only stable thing on our defence all season long.

I think after the 2011 season we really could have gone one of two ways - go all-in again or slowly start to rebuild. The next post-season failure was pretty much it for the core and that's when the rebuild truly started. We could have been patient and tried one more season with AV and our core, but instead we started a full rehaul.

Right now we're watching the Sedins, Edler and sometimes even Miller show everyone that they've still got it and that they still want to win. Obviously we'd need a lot more help that management simply wouldn't be able to provide those guys, but I just think that the old adage that our core is ageing and on the downslide is completely false. Our core is still producing at the same rate they were two, three years ago. It's the secondary players who are declining. Higgins, Burrows, Hamhuis - those are the guys who aren't as good as they used to be. The twins, Edler and Miller are all fine for the most part.

I just think that if we had some really good secondary players, this team would be a contender right now - even with a 30 year old Edler, 35 year old Sedins and veteran Miller. That's the only thing costing us right now. If we had a true 3C and 4C instead of Horvat and McCann, and a couple of skilled 20 goal scorers instead of an ageing Burrows and Higgins, as well as a couple of solid top-4 defencemen instead of Sbisa and Hamhuis, this team would be a contender.

Core's not the problem, the secondary is and management opted to rebuild instead of change our secondary players for players in their prime. Not saying it's the wrong move, but it would have been interesting to see how good we would have been with some decent 2nd, 3rd line forwards and top-4 defencemen to complement our still-amazing core.

Okay I also see where your going with this but there's a lot of hindsight and could have should have would have in this post. Yes, if there were better secondary players in the lineup there's no doubt this team could have been making some noise this year but it goes back to a decade of poor drafting and bad development. It's all good though the future looks bright.

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19 hours ago, RonMexico said:

Is that it?

How about they just do nothing and let the chips fall as they will. I am ok with waiting out a few bad years to develop something. Sedins had their chance. Many players never get a sniff of the Cup Finals. If they still make the playoffs this year, I don't want it to be because they acquired Eric Weinrich or Keith Carney at the expense of some picks.

I can imagine colorado now "sorry ray bourque, you had your chance"

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It has been a strange season indeed. Started off amazing with a lot of excitement. Then we had an absolutely horrible stretch, and looked to be trending downward. Now with two wins in a row we are sitting in 8th, with a 11-11-8 recording and a -3 goal differential. Winnipeg is 7th with a -7 goal differential. Then you have the Blues in third with a +2 goal differential. Last place Colorado -6. Talk about parity! 

In 2001-2002 the Canucks squeezed into the playoffs by two points with a 42-30-7 record and a +43 goal differential.

The top two teams in the West this year missed the playoffs last season. 

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7 hours ago, Frazzy Desjardins said:

ummmmmm i already said i was talking about the devils not the kings when talking about underdogs and anything can happen.... also those 2 teams faced off for the mug in 2012 and scotty retired in 2010.................................

So you're talking about the Devils that got to the Cup finals but crushed by the Kings? 

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I can't see how we could contend for the cup even if we did load up. This team has won a total of 3 playoff games in the last 3 years, and that was with better teams. Some major issues with the Canucks need to be fixed before we can contend again, and it takes time to fix them.

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1 hour ago, Sweathog said:

I can't see how we could contend for the cup even if we did load up. This team has won a total of 3 playoff games in the last 3 years, and that was with better teams. Some major issues with the Canucks need to be fixed before we can contend again, and it takes time to fix them.

Thank god someone who can see past the Rangers game and look at the reality of the situation. Like honestly people, what has this team and core shown us in 4 seasons since the cup run? The inability to compete and step up to the plate when the going gets tough. This team has for a long time shown no desire, no heart, and no push back. One stinking good game against a solid Rangers team in December doesn't mean that we will see that same effort in a 7 game series come April, God forbid they get there, against a much better team. We tend to forget the Canucks have won 11 games this season and have lost 19 of them, losing every game that's gone to OT. That's pretty bad. The benefit of playing in the worst division in the NHL and picking up loser points masks the reality that the Canucks are a mediocre team lightyears away from even having a sniff at winning anything.

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Making the playoffs to keep the owner happy with the way this is going with the weak division but to load up for the run is ridiculously because last year playoffs proved to us that we can dominate in the offensive zone with the Sedin but our defense/turnover is our demise.   Fix up the defense first then we can talk about loading up.    Not this year because we have not fixed the defense first.  If we fixed the defense during the off-season and we look good early next season with the same Sedin production and nothing else but defense is awesomely good then we can talk about loading up for forward line.   It's too early to do that right now.

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