DownUndaCanuck Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Hate to be a pessimist but I don't think he's ever going to be a full-time NHLer. Maybe full-time AHLer with a couple of spot starts but I just don't see him playing over 200 NHL games. Prove me wrong Guillaume. He is on a terrible team in the Q so maybe his game picks up in a couple seasons time, but he's not going to get an NHL-sniff for another 3-5 years anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 4 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Hate to be a pessimist but I don't think he's ever going to be a full-time NHLer. Maybe full-time AHLer with a couple of spot starts but I just don't see him playing over 200 NHL games. Prove me wrong Guillaume. He is on a terrible team in the Q so maybe his game picks up in a couple seasons time, but he's not going to get an NHL-sniff for another 3-5 years anyway. What a comical, pretentious comment with all due respect. You're not 'right' or 'wrong', you just have literally no idea whether he'll be an AHL or NHL asset, let alone naming a 200 game threshold lol - extremely pretentious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 1 hour ago, oldnews said: What a comical, pretentious comment with all due respect. You're not 'right' or 'wrong', you just have literally no idea whether he'll be an AHL or NHL asset, let alone naming a 200 game threshold lol - extremely pretentious. Nobody does. Benning doesn't even know when he drafts him. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion and I realize it's VERY early in the kid's career, and that an opinion based on a few junior games is probably not very heavily weighted. That's just my hunch based on historical statistics of 3rd liners cracking the NHL consistently and how he's played so far. Good luck to him but we'd be very lucky if he pans out to become a top-4 defenceman. Very lucky. You can't deny that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soshified Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 2 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Hate to be a pessimist but I don't think he's ever going to be a full-time NHLer. Maybe full-time AHLer with a couple of spot starts but I just don't see him playing over 200 NHL games. Prove me wrong Guillaume. He is on a terrible team in the Q so maybe his game picks up in a couple seasons time, but he's not going to get an NHL-sniff for another 3-5 years anyway. Pretty sure he's the captain and best player on the worst team in the Q. Plus GMJB was really high on this guy. Probably would have drafted him in the 2nd round if we had one. It's a project for sure though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 5 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Nobody does. Benning doesn't even know when he drafts him. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion and I realize it's VERY early in the kid's career, and that an opinion based on a few junior games is probably not very heavily weighted. That's just my hunch based on historical statistics of 3rd liners cracking the NHL consistently and how he's played so far. Good luck to him but we'd be very lucky if he pans out to become a top-4 defenceman. Very lucky. You can't deny that. Well opinions are like a-holes. Yours just tends to produce more sh*t. How many AB games have you actually watched? Or even seen highlights of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wshdrvvn Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 200 games? sounds like someone has been drinking the PCS koolaid. Anyways. The timing of the signing is the only thing I don't understand. Brisebois reminds me of how Hamhuis plays. Not Hammer in juniors, but as a pro, post 2011 (when he took the hip check out of his game). The fact JB felt this needed to happen now tells me this kid has hockey IQ through the roof, coupled with his skating, and some intangible traits. I think he's going to be a solid player for the Canucks around the 2019 or 2020 season. I have one thought about the signing and it's kind of out there.. could the canucks have signed him now in order to have a bit more control of his junior career? like a Draisatl and edmonton type of thing? I doubt it honestly but I'm grasping for some underlying meaning here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 future hall o famer baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 It's early, but at this point it looks like Guillaume, Carl Neill (who is at a ppg) and Tate Olson (also scoring at a rapid clip) were all good economy picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 4 hours ago, wshdrvvn said: I have one thought about the signing and it's kind of out there.. could the canucks have signed him now in order to have a bit more control of his junior career? I doubt it honestly but I'm grasping for some underlying meaning here. Or did he sign him now because: -he wanted to get it done before he goes on a tear and lights up the Q in the 2nd half and demands max ELC with outrageous bonuses:) ? -he didn't have time to do it earlier because he and TL were on a hellish scouting trip all across NA last month? -he want's to have him signed so it will be easier to use him as trade bait? -he wants him signed to call him up to shore up the defence at the NHL level now that we are decimated once again by injury:). Who knows?????????? Best not to read into it too much imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wshdrvvn Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 4 minutes ago, Fanuck said: Or did he sign him now because: -he wanted to get it done before he goes on a tear and lights up the Q in the 2nd half and demands max ELC with outrageous bonuses:) ? -he didn't have time to do it earlier because he and TL were on a hellish scouting trip all across NA last month? -he want's to have him signed so it will be easier to use him as trade bait? -he wants him signed to call him up to shore up the defence at the NHL level now that we are decimated once again by injury:). Who knows?????????? Best not to read into it too much imo. It could have to do with signing him for less money but the rest of what you said doesn't really make sense. But yeah, of course there isn't a lot to read into but its a discussion board which may include looking for a deeper meaning. What i posted was just a theory to speculate on. The seemingly random timing of the signing makes my mind run a little bit, i can't be the only person thinking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Signed him for a Utica playoff run. His Junior team isn't going far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedman Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 On 2015-12-11 at 5:19 AM, oldnews said: What a comical, pretentious comment with all due respect. You're not 'right' or 'wrong', you just have literally no idea whether he'll be an AHL or NHL asset, let alone naming a 200 game threshold lol - extremely pretentious. Lol so no one is allowed to judge a player now huh? At which specific age are you allowed to do so? Never? I agree with him, im not hyped about Brisebois at all. Felt like quite a disappointing pick, and that Benning just picked him for the sake of picking a defenceman, since he failed to pick one earlier on. I liked the Boeser pick though, since that was the only pick we had prior to the Brisebrois one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 1 hour ago, Hedman said: Lol so no one is allowed to judge a player now huh? At which specific age are you allowed to do so? Never? I agree with him, im not hyped about Brisebois at all. Felt like quite a disappointing pick, and that Benning just picked him for the sake of picking a defenceman, since he failed to pick one earlier on. I liked the Boeser pick though, since that was the only pick we had prior to the Brisebrois one. Oh judge away Hedman - judging by your "Lol" lead, no doubt it'll be even more informative than duc's effort, 'lol'. I'm guessing you have about as many opportunities to watch the player over in Sweden as DownUnderC has down in Aussie. How many games are you going to ordain him to play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsjunior Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 On 12/10/2015 at 2:48 PM, HC20.0 said: Happy with the signing, solid prospect. But geeze, your post sounds snotty. i didn't read the post as being snotty... i read some of you as being snotty.... I read it as he was happy with the signing and tied it in with sarcasm towards hamuis injury...nothing wrong with that... just members on this forum are too quick to jump to the negative.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Prophet Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 On December 11, 2015 at 10:06 PM, DownUndaCanuck said: Nobody does. Benning doesn't even know when he drafts him. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion and I realize it's VERY early in the kid's career, and that an opinion based on a few junior games is probably not very heavily weighted. That's just my hunch based on historical statistics of 3rd liners cracking the NHL consistently and how he's played so far. Good luck to him but we'd be very lucky if he pans out to become a top-4 defenceman. Very lucky. You can't deny that. Luck is not gonna be a big factor in it. If he makes the NHL as a regular, it's because he earned it. I don't see the point of putting him down at this point in his young career (and life, for that matter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 4 hours ago, Hedman said: Lol so no one is allowed to judge a player now huh? At which specific age are you allowed to do so? Never? I agree with him, im not hyped about Brisebois at all. Felt like quite a disappointing pick, and that Benning just picked him for the sake of picking a defenceman, since he failed to pick one earlier on. I liked the Boeser pick though, since that was the only pick we had prior to the Brisebrois one. Sure, judge a player but at least watch a couple games before expressing some BS opinion. Simply looking at a barely-18-year-old's stats on hockeydb is gonna get you nothing but laughed at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 On 12/13/2015 at 7:08 AM, Hedman said: Lol so no one is allowed to judge a player now huh? At which specific age are you allowed to do so? Never? I agree with him, im not hyped about Brisebois at all. Felt like quite a disappointing pick, and that Benning just picked him for the sake of picking a defenceman, since he failed to pick one earlier on. I liked the Boeser pick though, since that was the only pick we had prior to the Brisebrois one. Usually, when GMs are picking prospects, they have a list of players they are interested in. They'll generally take the highest one available on that list. If there's a forward and a defender of what they would consider equal worth, then they'd likely look at team needs at that point. Are you saying they should not do things this way? If not, then what do you suggest? Aside from that, I don't get this negativity towards a 3rd round pick. It's almost as if people like you feel a 3rd round pick should be a guaranteed success when it isn't. We apparently have a bunch of "drafting experts" here who "know more" than Benning, a professional scout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 2 minutes ago, The Lock said: Usually, when GMs are picking prospects, they have a list of players they are interested in. They'll generally take the highest one available on that list. If there's a forward and a defender of what they would consider equal worth, then they'd likely look at team needs at that point. Are you saying they should not do things this way? If not, then what do you suggest? Aside from that, I don't get this negativity towards a 3rd round pick. It's almost as if people like you feel a 3rd round pick should be a guaranteed success when it isn't. Quebec League D. Mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 36 minutes ago, Alflives said: Quebec League D. Mistake. Here's the thing: by that logic, we should totally pass on players from the BCHL like Jost! The same argument could apply. However, the league doesn't really matter. The player does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Just now, The Lock said: Here's the thing: by that logic, we should totally pass on players from the BCHL like Jost! The same argument could apply. However, the league doesn't really matter. The player does. Is the BCHL what used to be the BCJHL? If so, than yes. Don't waste picks from their. It's too rare for those guys to pan out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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