butters Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 32 minutes ago, TOMapleLaughs said: How about Richardson was UFA and he chose to leave? I don't think you understand. This is the default destination for all players and if they don't sign here then the GM must have messed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grape Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 IMO faceoffs are terribly overrated. Check out the team faceoff stats, it's a completely random indicator for how good a team is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 if you talk to 100 fans, you may have 100 different opinions on what benning's biggest mistake is...and like the rest of us, we all know not near enough to run this team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockeye Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 3 minutes ago, Grape said: IMO faceoffs are terribly overrated. Check out the team faceoff stats, it's a completely random indicator for how good a team is. I completely disagree. You win faceoffs, you win possession. If you don't have the puck, you can't score. Also, faceoffs can be critical whether in the offensive zone on the powerplay or in the defensive zone on a PK. We need to get better at faceoffs or this team isn't going anywhere (this year or next year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Face off are essential IMO. If you want to play a possession gmae starting in possession is the opening gambit. Remember when AV used to roll out Mulhotra for almost every defensive FO and the start of every PK. It was a major part of Vcrs success. The game in Chaicago...the oppositite Chicago had the majority of the play because they always had the puck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 His biggest mistake is going with 3 AHL defense. Then again maybe this is all part of the real plan. Be just good enough to give the appearance of striving for the playoffs but coming up short. Why don't we here rumors about a hot search for defensive help? Why are they not talking to their UFA's about the future? I will bet you they are looking at this division and wondering how bad they will need to be to miss the playoffs? Whats up with the Ducks,Sharks and the Flames? Missing the playoffs should have been a cake walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Prust has been great, Dorsett is the real anchor on that line. Kills every possesion play Cracker and Prust initiate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Unless a team is great on D and in goal, then I guess winning faceoffs might not be as crucial. The Canucks are the type of team that NEEDS to win faceoffs though. Puck possession means having a chance at a scoring play, maybe drawing a penalty. Not having the puck means the Canucks are scrambling, chasing, getting injured blocking shots, icing, taking bad hooking or tripping penalties, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grape Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 9 minutes ago, sockeye said: I completely disagree. You win faceoffs, you win possession. If you don't have the puck, you can't score. Also, faceoffs can be critical whether in the offensive zone on the powerplay or in the defensive zone on a PK. We need to get better at faceoffs or this team isn't going anywhere (this year or next year). http://www.nhl.com/stats/team?reportType=season&report=teamsummary&season=20142015&gameType=2&sort=faceoffWinPctg&aggregate=0 Team FO stats for 2014-2015. There's barely any correlation to FO's and winning. If you're too lazy to click I'll give you an overview (Y if team made playoffs, N if they didn't, in the order of FO rankings) NYNYYNNNYYNYNNYYNYYNYYNYNYNYYN Not much correlation eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOOMUCHINTERNET Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 52 minutes ago, Fred65 said: It wasn't an option. Richardson who I really like was signed by Phx in the summer to a multi year deal ( 3 years at $2.0 ). JB offered a contract to Richardson, but he was unwilling to make it a multi year deal. Prust came in when JB found some one to take Kassian off his hands ( and we all know why ) By the way Jarratt Stoll is on waivers today he's minimum wage, a face off specialist and no one, no one drops the gloves with Stoll...down side he had problesm with drugs in LA ??? claim him NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRypien37 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Well, we never "signed" Prust, so there goes that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 no thhanks guys a scrub we will be fine when sutters back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amitriptyline Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Keeping Miller instead of Lack was the biggest mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelicHearts Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 5 minutes ago, amitriptyline said: Keeping Miller instead of Lack was the biggest mistake. I'm still upset over the Lack trade even though he isn't doing so well over in Carolina. I'd still prefer to have him here instead of Miller. After all, he did get us to the playoffs last year when Miller got hurt. Sure, Miller has better stats right now, but who knows why Eddie isn't at his best. Maybe they have problems with their defense, too. I don't know. Whatever the reason, Eddie was a really great person to have on the team and I miss him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahyoung Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Generally speaking I agree Richardson should have been signed. At the time I didn't mind seeing him go because of his stats but in hindsight... I remember games where Richardson wouldn't score but he would literally change the tempo and flow of the whole game. The Canucks would be pinned in their own end and getting beat upon defensively and he would give them hitting and puck control. He would cause the other team to recoil back and the Canucks would take initiative. Many a time watching him play and mistaking him for one of the stars on the team, only to look up his number... "what, that's Richardson?" Not to say that he would've scored a lot, but he brings intangibles- a puck possession, defensive forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dank.sinatra Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Had to say bye to the coke boys. Richie, Kass and Stanton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 9 minutes ago, AngelicHearts said: I'm still upset over the Lack trade even though he isn't doing so well over in Carolina. I'd still prefer to have him here instead of Miller. After all, he did get us to the playoffs last year when Miller got hurt. Sure, Miller has better stats right now, but who knows why Eddie isn't at his best. Maybe they have problems with their defense, too. I don't know. Whatever the reason, Eddie was a really great person to have on the team and I miss him. God, Lack could put up beer league numbers for the next 10 years and fans will still be saying this. The sample size is still too small to really say but maybe it's possible he's just not that good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 2 hours ago, *Buzzsaw* said: It's clear this team is no contender, but what is really killing it is the lack of skill at center, especially in the faceoff circle. The Canucks are continually having to dig themselves out of a hole after they lose a faceoff in their own zone... it is killing them, both physically and mentally. The big difference this year? Sutter is out, Henrik can't be out every shift, and there is no Brad Richardson as backup to take the critical draws. Bo Horvat has dropped off in his win percentage so he is no replacement. Cracknell is a decent faceoff man, but nothing special. Every team needs a faceoff specialist, the Canucks don't have one. While I overall like Prust as a player, he is no better, and perhaps a little worse than Richardson as an offensive force, (both have similar points this year) and isn't a real physical presence. The big advantage to Richardson is he is an excellent faceoff man. Benning should have signed Richardson, and done one of two other things for the 4th line, either play Cracknell as a winger on the 4th line, or bring up one of the young big forwards form Utica. Either Grenier, Gaunce or Kenins. Right now, Benning is now over a barrel, every team in the league knows he needs a center ice man, and they are demanding real gold for a trade. Benning should have traded Kassian for a prospect who could develop instead Prust, and used the money to sign Richardson. Richardson would have been injured already; alike any other year Richardson was a Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 16 minutes ago, ashbury said: Had to say bye to the coke boys. Richie, Kass and Stanton. Evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 For those who don't think that face offs are important, look at our penalty kill percentage since Sutter went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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