diesel_3 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 He plays in the Eastern conference, easier to score. He would be lucky to have 2 if he was on the Canucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proheffanol Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 I'm not surprised by his success. We saw flashes of his scoring touch at certain points, but he never got the opportunity. Even if he was still here though I wouldn't think he'd be having nearly as much success here since Montreal gave him the ice time we never did and probably still wouldn't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPatrick33 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 4 hours ago, ajhockey said: It's worth noting that maybe the change of teams allowed him more opportunity. It's entirely possible that if he had stayed here in Vancouver, he wouldn't have become the player he's become in Montreal. No doubt about this. In Vancouver, he was only used as a 4th line guy expected to drop the gloves. Montreal was giving him top line minutes for a while there, he is like Montreals version of Hansen! Dutch Gretzky versus the Danish Lemieux! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 And Leo Komarov has more goals than Phil Kessel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Sadly, he wasn't 'stiff' enough for Torts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickjim23 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Can't believe Higgins is here over him. Weise is so much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 On December 25, 2015 at 1:04 AM, slickjim23 said: Can't believe Higgins is here over him. Weise is so much better Well Higgins is a LW and Weise is a RW so they weren't fighting each other for a spot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickjim23 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 20 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Well Higgins is a LW and Weise is a RW so they weren't fighting each other for a spot... Actually, Weise is one of the more versatile players in the league and would have absolutely no problem on the left wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 On 12/24/2015 at 2:31 PM, Shift-4 said: Clearly more players need to develop their talent in the Netherlands The Netherlands wouldn't help, considering it was Denmark where he went to play. But he has some skill, the issue here was that he believed it was more than it actually was. He needed to blend that as we brought him in to fill a more physical role. If he'd played that physical game and just kept taking advantage of chances then he could have done well anywhere. Well, that, and his weirdly creepy attitude as seen in the rumours about his attempts at dating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 On 12/24/2015 at 0:26 PM, MovesLikeDatsyuk said: Correction 6 games in total. It's really a bit beside the point. While I'm in agreement that it was a lopsided trade in the Habs' favor, the fact is that at the time, the 'Nucks defense was decimated and needed a warm body. Torts didn't trust Weise, so he was considered expendable. Obviously, once the regular defense started to heal, Diaz was going to sit, but as far as Torts and management were concerned, they had given up very little, if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 On 12/26/2015 at 9:32 AM, elvis15 said: The Netherlands wouldn't help, considering it was Denmark where he went to play. The Dutch Gretzky went to Denmark to play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat James Posted December 29, 2015 Author Share Posted December 29, 2015 On 28 december 2015 at 8:10 AM, Bitter Melon said: The Dutch Gretzky went to Denmark to play? Nothing pleases me more than when Elvis is just plain wrong and gets called out for it. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking mama Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 On 12/24/2015 at 11:59 AM, RUPERTKBD said: I don't really think that DW's success with the Habs comes as a big shock to most of CDC. Torts didn't trust him in NYC and he didn't trust him in Vancity. As soon as he got a chance with a coach who didn't have a preconceived bias against him, he was able to show what he could really do. Who knows what it was with Torts? Maybe Weise isn't a shot-blocker. ^My take on it is....that Torts didn't like this 4th-line player's use of levity to ease tension on the bench or in their room. In a radio interview, Torts related how much he revelled in actual confrontation with his players,..he missed them 'coming back at him'. Weise made attempts to diffuse these moments. He & Luongo got chummy at the end of the bench over it. Hard-arses don't like the impact of their messages being minimized or upstaged,..by humour. That's where a little of his personal dislike of Weise stems from... possibly in NY before he was traded away from there... and then here in VAN. Plus Weise had some first-hand intel on the new coach from his days in NY and Torts certainly didn't want any of this knowledge influencing his new group. Torts systematically de-valued Weise with crappy playing-time /or NO play-time at all. Weise could barely get into the rhythm of games...or develop his game-shape or proper instincts then. Torts rode his top players like dogs instead. The Tortorella-treatment caused GM Gillis to under-value Weise's potential to grow here in Van. Tortorella had dog-housed him & clearly wanted him moved along. He wasn't given an honest opportunity to play for Tortorella because Torts knew that a mutual respect... was not there. Then this master manipulator/drama king (Torts) had NO scruples in core-busting the hell out his NTC or LTC players, next. His mistreatment of Luongo & Lu's hockey-fans through-out the league by sitting the best goalie in Canucks hockey history for a once-in-a-lifetime game honouring Canucks hockey history,..was key in revealing just how much of an egotistical despot Torts really was. He cared little about offering the regular supportiveness of a team-building coach or even the social graces to any of those players he deemed to be cast-offs. Torts is like...the anti-Pat Quinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thema Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 On 12/26/2015 at 9:32 AM, elvis15 said: The Netherlands wouldn't help, considering it was Denmark where he went to play. According to whom? From Wiki: "During the 2012–13 NHL lockout, Weise joined Dutch Eredivisie side Tilburg Trappers". Thanks for coming though. Don't ever change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetica Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Weise got hurt during the WC (broken hand?) Hopefully he won't be out too long and can continue the good season he's having. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 On 12/26/2015 at 10:32 AM, elvis15 said: The Netherlands wouldn't help, considering it was Denmark where he went to play. Clearly there is a Germans bombing Pearl Harbour joke in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 On 1/1/2016 at 2:06 PM, Shift-4 said: Clearly there is a Germans bombing Pearl Harbour joke in here Something like "Was it over when the Jews sank the Titanic?!"....(Iceberg, Steinberg....whatever...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 55 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: Something like "Was it over when the Jews sank the Titanic?!"....(Iceberg, Steinberg....whatever...) I always thought that joke worked well with Swedish hockey players too (Forsberg, Renberg, Zetterberg, Gradin............) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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