Quoted Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 8 hours ago, Alflives said: Are WD and JB really as dim witted as they appear to be? Saying that he wasn't sure how a rookie was going to respond and perform in his second (?) ever game makes him dim-witted?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2288 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 8 hours ago, RWMc1 said: Highly unlikely. Edler played over 27 minutes. Weber was next in minutes with over 23 minutes. 3 minutes more than anyone else on the team. Pedan played less than half the minutes as Weber. Guess what, we won with them playing the most minutes. Weber's big brainfart was not passing across and trying to skate across instead. That wound up in a penalty. Other than that, he actually played a pretty solid game. Willie is not going to sit someone who he has enough faith in to give that many minutes against a skill team like Edmonton. Are you serious? we won despite Weber. Forget about the wasted offensive chances he had, the defensive lapses were never ending. On play when the Canucks had the puck forever in the Oilers zone he slaps his stick on the ice and calls for a pass, then he gets it and has zero plan!!! He promptly gave puck away and when he skates back lazily, with one hand on his stick, to retrieve the puck it gets taken away and then had to chase and take a penalty. Yet another typical Weber play. In the defensive zone he gave away the puck and had players skate around him like a pylon. Those bad plays perhaps were not as noticable because Marky made big saves and on a couple Weber made a desperation recovery that would not have been required had he not screwed up in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I wasn't really surprised at the win last night, even considering the depleted lineup. The Oil have been terrible on the road and the Canucks for the most part do well against teams that aren't all that physical. I think the Kings will be a much more difficult challenge. Regarding the play of the kids, I agree that Pedan played well, but to suggest he was underutilized is wrong, IMO. It's possible (even likely, I think) that he did as well as he did because he played only 10 minutes. Baby steps. Meanwhile Weber and Edler receive criticism from CDC, despite the fact that both played extra minutes against a highly skilled offensive team and played many of those minutes with defense partners that they aren't used to playing with. Edler also played a significant amount of time on his off side... I thought all of the players stepped up their game last night with the exception of Vrbata, who looked disinterested all night. He was also easily danced by Leon Draisatl, proving once again that he is a poor choice for playing defense on a PP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 It's tough playing on the off side with different partners, but the d-men got the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2288 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 13 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: I wasn't really surprised at the win last night, even considering the depleted lineup. The Oil have been terrible on the road and the Canucks for the most part do well against teams that aren't all that physical. I think the Kings will be a much more difficult challenge. Regarding the play of the kids, I agree that Pedan played well, but to suggest he was underutilized is wrong, IMO. It's possible (even likely, I think) that he did as well as he did because he played only 10 minutes. Baby steps. Meanwhile Weber and Edler receive criticism from CDC, despite the fact that both played extra minutes against a highly skilled offensive team and played many of those minutes with defense partners that they aren't used to playing with. Edler also played a significant amount of time on his off side... I thought all of the players stepped up their game last night with the exception of Vrbata, who looked disinterested all night. He was also easily danced by Leon Draisatl, proving once again that he is a poor choice for playing defense on a PP. Oilers highly skilled offensive team? Hmm ranked 21st in the league? Agree on Vrbata, first goal was all on him and he put Edler in a tough spot. I am ok with Edler and I know he has some shortcomings but I like him and would suggest most teams in the league would love him on their side. Weber is garbage. At best, a Europe player and he will be playing there soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 9 hours ago, Monteeun said: This also gives Miller some time to rest. As i felt he was playing too much. Its good to know that we got the Marksmen to come in and play stellar for us. As for Higgins and Burrows, i think there roles are different or have not played up to standard. Higgins has been very disappointing.(not sure if its still an injury thing) But at least Burrows is contributing in a useful way. Markstrom > Miller Why play Miller...ride Markstrom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_impersonator13 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 9 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: "He [Jannik Hansen] came to the bench and told the guys to get him the puck if he was coming in with speed. They did." - Desjardins Nice game for the honey badger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_impersonator13 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 44 minutes ago, Quoted said: Saying that he wasn't sure how a rookie was going to respond and perform in his second (?) ever game makes him dim-witted?? Think he was just surprised and pleased someone on his defense actually hit someone. Get Tyramykin over here and we'll have the Russian bash bros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyg43 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 28 minutes ago, canuck2288 said: Are you serious? we won despite Weber. Forget about the wasted offensive chances he had, the defensive lapses were never ending. On play when the Canucks had the puck forever in the Oilers zone he slaps his stick on the ice and calls for a pass, then he gets it and has zero plan!!! He promptly gave puck away and when he skates back lazily, with one hand on his stick, to retrieve the puck it gets taken away and then had to chase and take a penalty. Yet another typical Weber play. In the defensive zone he gave away the puck and had players skate around him like a pylon. Those bad plays perhaps were not as noticable because Marky made big saves and on a couple Weber made a desperation recovery that would not have been required had he not screwed up in the first place. I thought that was a erie moment an strange to say the least almost like he was trying to inadvertantly gift the oilers a goal ,crazy man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 29 minutes ago, Pete M said: Markstrom > Miller Why play Miller...ride Markstrom? The real issue will come in February. Trade Miller to the Habs so he can bail out their fortunes. Or better yet move Miller for a combo of draft picks. Markstrom is well on the way to finally establishing himself as a NHL starter. I will eat my words as I was a big Lack fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokes Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I am loving this Pedan kid they got up here. The guy can hit like a freight train. Can't wait until he fills into his frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 1 hour ago, canuck2288 said: Oilers highly skilled offensive team? Hmm ranked 21st in the league? Agree on Vrbata, first goal was all on him and he put Edler in a tough spot. I am ok with Edler and I know he has some shortcomings but I like him and would suggest most teams in the league would love him on their side. Weber is garbage. At best, a Europe player and he will be playing there soon enough. Just because they haven't been scoring doesn't mean they aren't skilled. Hall, Nuge, Eberle, Draisatl....all have plenty of skill. As far as Weber goes, just because you say something as though it were fact, doesn't make it so. I notice that you edited out most of your criticism for some reason, but like most of his detractors, you focus on only his mistakes and somehow manage to miss the terrific play he made on a two on one, or the fact that it was his keep that led to the Canucks opening goal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadcanucks Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 1 hour ago, RUPERTKBD said: Just because they haven't been scoring doesn't mean they aren't skilled. Hall, Nuge, Eberle, Draisatl....all have plenty of skill. As far as Weber goes, just because you say something as though it were fact, doesn't make it so. I notice that you edited out most of your criticism for some reason, but like most of his detractors, you focus on only his mistakes and somehow manage to miss the terrific play he made on a two on one, or the fact that it was his keep that led to the Canucks opening goal... Know what you're saying about perspectives, but if you look at his entire body of work, the balance sheet isn't in his favor. At the end of the day, wouldn't you want every single player on your roster to give you more than they take away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoted Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 22 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: Just because they haven't been scoring doesn't mean they aren't skilled. Hall, Nuge, Eberle, Draisatl....all have plenty of skill. As far as Weber goes, just because you say something as though it were fact, doesn't make it so. I notice that you edited out most of your criticism for some reason, but like most of his detractors, you focus on only his mistakes and somehow manage to miss the terrific play he made on a two on one, or the fact that it was his keep that led to the Canucks opening goal... After his major gaff, he seemed to regain some focus and then played better I thought. Same with Bartowski who lost the puck, then fell over giving up a (-n odd-man?) rush. Funny how people aren't slamming him for that, though (and in fact, a few people say how good a game he had). Edler made some mistakes but had some great lng break-out passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Positive Canuck Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 2 hours ago, smokes said: I am loving this Pedan kid they got up here. The guy can hit like a freight train. Can't wait until he fills into his frame. yup when he's 240 and 25 he will be savage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Overall, this game was good look at what the future could be. Our team could be something to fear in 3-4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal1 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 13 hours ago, Shift-4 said: I have a headache looking at that gash Beauty game by Honey Badger One of our worst lineups in the last quarter century. And we still beat all those first rounders. lol That is so true! Anyone still thinks Edmonton is the wasy to go to build a team? Anyone still keen on going for Matthews? Isn't this Oilers team just absolutely and completely awful. I think it's time for a rebuild there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal1 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 4 minutes ago, Qwags said: Overall, this game was good look at what the future could be. Our team could be something to fear in 3-4 years. Can you imagine adding Virtanen and Boeser, clearly two of the top players in yesterday's WJC' game. I would say 3 years is optimistic but 4-5 is very realistic. Starting to make noise in 2019-20 and get scary in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Hansen is a good example of how long it takes for some players to develop. He was 22 years old before he made it to the NHL and has shown steady improvement through out his career. This is one of the reasons for not blowing a team up and why we don't rush on players like Sven and ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish⑦Canuck Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 13 hours ago, slickjim23 said: Frustrating POS team doesn't know how to lose when it matters. Your posts are among the worst attempts at trolling on this board. Not even subtle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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