theminister Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 3 hours ago, Hugor Hill said: Jury psychology is a ridiculously interesting field that I like to do more research in. I have read numerous accounts of how a few 'bullies' persuaded everyone else to their point of view. Ever see '12 Angry Men?' Worth a watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 http://abc13.com/news/making-a-murderer-petition-to-free-steven-avery-draws-nearly-200k-signatures/1145387/ There have been two petitions to have him freed that have received huge amounts of signatures. One to the State and the other to the Feferal government. The Governor has refused to pardon him but the White House is going to be required to look at the case of it gets 100,000 signatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 And the White House has now responded. They can't do anything about it http://www.techinsider.io/obama-steven-avery-petition-2016-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookie Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I'm not so convinced of his innocence to expect them to just issue a full pardon. A re-trial, on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beluga Whale Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 1 hour ago, The Bookie said: I'm not so convinced of his innocence to expect them to just issue a full pardon. A re-trial, on the other hand... Yeah I agree with this. You can't definitively say he's innocent or guilty after that trail but those two trails were obviously not even close to fair and just. Very well made documentary aside from them leaving out a few details that look bad on Avery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 3 hours ago, The Bookie said: I'm not so convinced of his innocence to expect them to just issue a full pardon. A re-trial, on the other hand... Once evidence has been tampered with the way it was, it's not really possible to have a fair trial anymore. I think there's a very good chance he did it too, but in a new trial he'd probably get off. I also think questions need to be asked about the effect of spending his twenties and thirties in a prison for violent offenders on Avery's post incarceration behavior. That should definitely factor into sentencing at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 2 hours ago, taxi said: Once evidence has been tampered with the way it was, it's not really possible to have a fair trial anymore. I think there's a very good chance he did it too, but in a new trial he'd probably get off. I also think questions need to be asked about the effect of spending his twenties and thirties in a prison for violent offenders on Avery's post incarceration behavior. That should definitely factor into sentencing at the very least. A lot of people are speculating that his 18 years in prison changed him to become a hardened person / criminal. What does that say about people's confidence in our justice system's ability to rehabilitate offenders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surtur Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 5 hours ago, Beluga Whale said: Yeah I agree with this. You can't definitively say he's innocent or guilty after that trail but those two trails were obviously not even close to fair and just. Very well made documentary aside from them leaving out a few details that look bad on Avery. I am trying to remember but in the show did they say the bullet was found that matched the hole in the scull fragment or did they say it was a bullet found with the girls dna? Because I thought I remember them saying they found a bullet in the garage that matched what would make the hole in the skull but nothing about dna. But I have also read that it had her dna on it and matched his gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFirstLine Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 On December 30, 2015 at 8:32 PM, Apricot said: Watching it right now, so many feelings. So many angry feelings. One in particular is that I really want to punch Ken Kratz. Every time they showed his face. When he talked, especially when he talked. I just felt like punching him His beautiful smirk though .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apricot Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 9 hours ago, TheFirstLine said: His beautiful smirk though .... Every single time he played with his damn mustache during the trail. My lord, I wanted to punch him in the damn face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3. Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I watched the first four episodes tonight; this seems as corrupt as the KHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovesLikeDatsyuk Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 So. Im not going to sit here and they they are innocent because i dont honestly know. But from what i saw alot of things certainly don't add up. - The blood vile with a needle in the top. Tampered evidence. - The cop who called in the licence plate 2 days before the car was found. Sounded like he was reading the back of a licence plate and he questioned 2 times if it was a 99 Toyota or w/e it was. (Car didn't have a licence plate on the back of the car. when they found it at averys loot) (Same cop that was involved in the 1st Avery Case.) - The family member that found the car only 20 minutes into searching the VERY BIG junk yard. ( Had to have been tipped) - No blood or dna on the mattress or in the room where the rape / murder of the women where she had her throat allegedly slit. - Found the key the car in clear view on the ground only after the 4th!! search of the house. after the guys who locked him up previously got involved. - Site was sealed off for over 2 weeks which is very odd and strange - The bullet found after many searchs in the garage. - The fact they put words into Brandons mouth who was only 6 IQ points above being legally retarded. This kid honestly thought he was going to be aloud to go back to school and present his project. - The main prosecutor doesn't look very professional at all. His sex scandal. http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/making-a-murderer-steven-avery-prosecutor-sex-scandal-district-attorney-ken-kratz-texts-domestic-violence-victim/ I believe a retrial should be given to Avery and Dassey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovesLikeDatsyuk Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 On 08/01/2016 at 4:25 AM, TheFirstLine said: His beautiful smirk though .... Smirk of a rapist. http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/making-a-murderer-steven-avery-prosecutor-sex-scandal-district-attorney-ken-kratz-texts-domestic-violence-victim/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Stephen Harper smirk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Just can't believe that all those statements to police from Brendan were deemed admissible. That poor, simple kid. Avery seems like a bit of a greaseball, but don't see how they had enough information to convict him. Len Kachinsky reminds me of Lester Nygaard from Fargo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Your Huckleberry Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 On 1/9/2016 at 7:03 AM, MovesLikeDatsyuk said: Smirk of a rapist. http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/making-a-murderer-steven-avery-prosecutor-sex-scandal-district-attorney-ken-kratz-texts-domestic-violence-victim/ 4 hours ago, Down by the River said: Stephen Harper smirk. This was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 2 hours ago, Down by the River said: Just can't believe that all those statements to police from Brendan were deemed admissible. That poor, simple kid. Avery seems like a bit of a greaseball, but don't see how they had enough information to convict him. Len Kachinsky reminds me of Lester Nygaard from Fargo. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovesLikeDatsyuk Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 2 hours ago, Down by the River said: Just can't believe that all those statements to police from Brendan were deemed admissible. That poor, simple kid. Avery seems like a bit of a greaseball, but don't see how they had enough information to convict him. Len Kachinsky reminds me of Lester Nygaard from Fargo. Oh wow ... He totally does lololol. That guy was a smiley rat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuonGO Canucks Go Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I watched Central Park five and this back to back so I was totally biased so I think he did not do it. edit I had 1000+ posts but now I have 311 not that I care but weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtis Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 On episode 2. This show is great but pissing me off... The people involved in the first incident clearly new what was happening. It's scary to think that people like this can decide our future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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