Bill Cosby Trial: Two Jurors Prevented a Guilty Verdict

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15 minutes ago, DonLever said:

"How do I describe the district attorney? Heinously and exploitively ambitious. How do I describe the judge? Overtly arrogant and collaborating with the district attorney. How do I describe the counsels for the accusers? Totally unethical. How do I describe general media? Blatantly vicious."

I'd like her to describe her cheating husband?  Fool.

[RWMc1]

17 minutes ago, DonLever said:

From CBC:

 

Prosecutors say they will retry Bill Cosby after a judge was forced to declare a mistrial in his sexual assault case because of a deadlocked jury unable to reach a unanimous verdict.

"Our plan is to move this case forward as soon as possible," Montgomery County, Pa. district attorney Kevin Steele said in a news conference after the decision.

The district attorney's office also tweeted that a new trial date would be set and that Cosby was out on bail. The disgraced actor remains charged with three counts of aggravated aggravated indecent assault

Jurors spent six days and more than 50 hours deliberating on whether the 79-year-old star of popular 80s and 90s sitcom The Cosby Show drugged and assaulted Canadian woman Andrea Constand, a Temple University employee, in 2004.

"We are confident that these proceedings have given a voice to the many victims who felt powerless and silenced," Constand's lawyer said in a statement on behalf of his client, thanking the jury for "their tireless efforts" and "sacrifice."

cent assault.

 

Cosby's wife of 53 years, Camille, released a seemingly hostile statement read by a member of her public relations firm.

"How do I describe the district attorney? Heinously and exploitively ambitious. How do I describe the judge? Overtly arrogant and collaborating with the district attorney. How do I describe the counsels for the accusers? Totally unethical. How do I describe general media? Blatantly vicious."

I wonder how she describes her despicable husband? He has admitted in the past to buying drugs to drug women with.

[Alflives]

1 minute ago, debluvscanucks said:

I'd like her to describe her cheating husband?  Fool.

"Serial Rapist" husband.

[DonLever]

Bill Cosby was very lucky.  He almost got convicted as 10 of 12 jurors voted guilty.   But there were 2 holdouts who refused to change their minds.   I wondered who they were.

 

http://people.com/crime/bill-cosby-two-jurors-guilty-verdict/

[Down by the River]

13 hours ago, DonLever said:

Bill Cosby was very lucky.  He almost got convicted as 10 of 12 jurors voted guilty.   But there were 2 holdouts who refused to change their minds.   I wondered who they were.

 

http://people.com/crime/bill-cosby-two-jurors-guilty-verdict/

I read somewhere that a judge ruled that the names of jurors could be released, so I feel that this will come to light soon enough.

[Cerridwen]

And here I thought we lived in 2017 and this sort of ignorance was over and done with. Un&^@#ingbelievable that this sort of thinking is still prevalent today....

 

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Cosby juror says Andrea Constand should have ‘dressed properly’

The male juror who said Andrea Constand should have been "dressed properly" when she visited Bill Cosby's house got a dressing down by two of the comedian's other accusers Friday.

 

Accusers Linda Kirkpatrick and Lili Bernard attended Cosby's sexual assault trial in suburban Philadelphia this month and said they were deeply distressed by the juror's comments to the Philadelphia Enquirer.

 

"People ask, 'Why don't victims come forward sooner?' Well, it's because of comments like this. Because we know we'll be blamed," Kirkpatrick, 60, told the Daily News.

"This is the type of archaic thinking that says a wife can't be raped, a prostitute can't be raped, a stripper can't be raped,” she added. “They can be."

Bernard, 53, echoed those sentiments.

 

"I wasn't surprised by the hung jury, but I was flabbergasted by the ignorance spewing out of this man's mouth. It's just senseless," Bernard said "It's a reminder of how we need to educate society. We need to debunk these rape myths.”

 

In his interview with The Enquirer, the unidentified juror suggested Constand proved her interest in a romantic relationship with Cosby by wearing clothing that exposed some of her midriff during a visit to the actor's suburban Philadelphia mansion.

 

He also found fault with the incense and bath salts Constand brought to Cosby, proving he wasn't swayed by her testimony the bath salts were actually from a different friend and only delivered by Constand with the belief they were for Cosby's wife.

 

"Let's face it: She went up to his house with a bare midriff and incense and bath salts. What the heck?" the man told the newspaper.

 

He said Constand should have gone to Cosby's home only if she was "dressed properly and left the incense in the store."

 

The man said he found Cosby's words to police and during depositions more believable than Constand's account of what happened the night of her alleged assault in January 2004.

 

"He was extremely honest. He admitted to things," the juror said of Cosby.

 

The juror also viewed Constand's mother as the driving force behind her decision to report the incident to police a year after it occurred.

 

"It was her mother who forced all this," he told The Enquirer.

 

"'She should have reported it sooner,' and, 'Look what she was wearing,' says the man who's never been sexually assaulted before," Kirkpatrick said Friday. "This is rape culture, to blame the victim."

 

Cosby, 79, has pleaded not guilty to three counts of aggravated indecent assault.

 

He did not testify at his trial this month but claimed in a 2005 police report and civil depositions that his sexual contact with Constand was consensual.

 

Cosby claimed he gave Constand Benadryl pills that he described to her as "three friends." He admitted he never told her what the pills were.

Constand, 44, gave a much different account during seven hours of intense, often emotional, testimony during trial.

 

The former head of women's basketball operations at Cosby's alma mater, Temple University, said she considered the actor a mentor and father figure before she went to his Elkins Park mansion to discuss her future career plans.

 

She said he offered her three unidentified pills and assured her they were "herbal."

 

Shortly after swallowing the pills, she said her voice began to slur, her vision blurred and she lost her ability to resist.

 

She recalled feeling powerless as Cosby groped her breasts, penetrated her with his fingers and forced her to touch his penis.

 

"In my head, I was trying to get my hands to move or my legs to move but I was frozen," Constand told jurors in her first-ever public comments about the alleged assault.

 

Constand fought back tears as she described her surprise violation by the TV icon who was a respected trustee where she worked.

"I wasn't able to fight in any way," Constand testified. "I wanted it to stop."

 

Shortly after Montgomery County Judge Steven T. O'Neill accepted the jury's impasse and declared a mistrial last Saturday, prosecutors vowed to re-try the case with another full-blown trial.

 

 

Speaking to The Enquirer, the male juror said Cosby had already "paid dearly" in terms of damage to his reputation and should be left alone.

 

"That shows complete ignorance of how rape impacts the victim. It's a miscarriage of justice," Bernard said Friday.

 

"That trial was like a three-ring circus of rape culture. (Cosby's lawyer) Brian McMonagle was up there waxing poetic with his rape myths, and unfortunately, some of the jurors apparently bought it.”

 

Bernard, now an artist and mom living in Los Angeles, claims she was drugged and raped by Cosby in the early 1990s after he cast her on "The Cosby Show" as a pregnant patient of his character Dr. Cliff Huxtable.

 

Kirkpatrick stepped forward in early 2015 and said she met Cosby in 1981 when she played against him in a Las Vegas tennis tournament and got invited to the greenroom at his casino comedy show.

 

She said Cosby fed her a clear drink in a champagne glass that tasted so "terrible" she only finished half. Kirkpatrick said she blacked out for most of the show and woke up to find Cosby on top of her, kissing her forcefully. 

The juror who spoke to The Enquirer said the panel of seven men and five women did not openly discuss the allegations of the 60 other women who have accused Cosby of some type of sexual misconduct. But he said he believed many of the other accusations were fabricated.

 

"This is ridiculous, unbelievable," he said. "I think more than half jumped on the bandwagon."

 

Bernard said she was "disgusted" by the man's comments.

 

"There is no perfect victim for him. He's going to find fault," she said.

 

"Clearly the holdout jurors confused the wholesomeness of the fictitious Dr. Huxtable with what Cosby really is — a depraved, cowardly, drugging, serial rapist."

 

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/cosby-juror-says-andrea-constand-should-have-‘dressed-properly’/ar-BBD64j7?li=AAggFp5&ocid=mailsignout

 

 

 

 

 

[Toews]

Cosby will croak before he has to face any prison time because of stupid jurors. I never got my hopes up for this, there will always be a few in the jury who will think they know Cosby from his acting career. 

[RUPERTKBD]

I saw the "improperly dressed" story this morning and I just have to shake my head. Whoever said that humans and dinosaurs didn't coexist, obviously never had a conversation with this juror.

 

And people wonder why victims of sexual assault are reluctant to come forward....

[nucklehead]

On ‎6‎/‎17‎/‎2017 at 1:28 PM, Alflives said:

"Serial Rapist" husband.

Alledged

[Bill Sikes]

On 12/30/2015 at 6:53 PM, Offensive Threat said:

With over 55 alleged victims having come forward so far is there anybody anywhere who still believes he is innocent?

 

 Scumbag is finally gonna get his due.

Believing is one thing, proving it is a whole different thing, that's the trouble with sexual assault cases, they often boil down to He said/She said, and you can't convict someone on belief alone.

[Bill Sikes]

On 12/31/2015 at 1:03 AM, milk and honey said:

I wouldn't be surprised that some of those "55" are looking for easy money and just join the train. 

Why can't these people who are accused of crimes just do a simple lie detector? Would save a ton of money, time, effort, and pain. Those things have like 95% success rate or something iirc from a book I was reading. 

 

 

There are probably a few that slept with him hoping to advance their career, and now are jumping on the bandwagon because it didn't work out like they planned.

[Toews]

2 hours ago, Bill Sikes said:

There are probably a few that slept with him hoping to advance their career, and now are jumping on the bandwagon because it didn't work out like they planned.

What possible reason will there be to "jump on the bandwagon"? For most of these women the statue of limitations prevents them from persuing legal options. There is literally no incentive unless you want to be called a "liar"and hear things like "She clearly wanted it otherwise why would she dress this way". Everyone knows Cosby is a rapist yet somehow the accusers are still being called liars and attention seekers. Its a sad world that we live in.

[Cerridwen]

2 hours ago, Toews said:

What possible reason will there be to "jump on the bandwagon"? For most of these women the statue of limitations prevents them from persuing legal options. There is literally no incentive unless you want to be called a "liar"and hear things like "She clearly wanted it otherwise why would she dress this way". Everyone knows Cosby is a rapist yet somehow the accusers are still being called liars and attention seekers. Its a sad world that we live in.

Couldn't have said it better myself! Thanks, Toews

 

 

Unbelievable that in this day and age some folks still support that sort of thinking.

[Curmudgeon]

7 hours ago, Bill Sikes said:

There are probably a few that slept with him hoping to advance their career, and now are jumping on the bandwagon because it didn't work out like they planned.

Couple of things:

 

1. Anyone who adopts Bill Sikes as a handle strikes me as odd. Sikes was a very bad man in Oliver Twist who beat Nancy to death because she betrayed him. Bad attitude towards women.

 

2. There is no sexual assault bandwagon. We have seen repeatedly that when women bring charges against an abuser, rapist, fondler, whatever, she is almost always blamed, either for her clothing, her behaviour, her past sexual history, even her looks.

 

If you think that all of these women are ganging up on poor old Bill Cosby because they are looking for a big payday, you have your head in a warm, dark, smelly place.

[Cerridwen]

Bill Cosby Found Guilty In Sexual Assault Retrial

 

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Comedian Bill Cosby was found guilty on Thursday on three felony counts of aggravated indecent assault by a Montgomery County, Pennsylvania, jury. 

 

Cosby, 80, was retried on three felony counts of aggravated indecent assault for drugging and sexually assaulting Andrea Constand in 2004. Constand, 44, was a former women’s basketball coach at Temple University where Cosby was a trustee and major donor during the time he assaulted her.

 

In June of last year, a jury failed to reach a unanimous decision on the charges and the judge declared a mistrial. Cosby reportedly paid Constand $3.4 million in a civil lawsuit settlement in 2006. 

 

“Remember this case is about trust, betrayal and the inability to consent,” Assistant District Attorney Kristen Feden said in her closing arguments on Tuesday, according to Deadline.

 

Assistant District Attorney M. Stewart Ryan added during his closing arguments that “it is time for each and every one of you to stand with Andrea Constand and tell the truth about what he did.” 

 

Throughout the prosecution’s closing arguments, Cosby was reportedly smiling. Feden called out the comedian’s smirks during her closing arguments.  

“He’s laughing like it’s funny,” Feden said. “But there’s absolutely nothing funny about them being stripped of their capacity to consent.”

In the defense’s closing arguments, Cosby’s attorneys attempted to sway the jury by blaming the recent Me Too movement.

“When you join a movement based primarily on emotion and anger, you don’t change a damned thing, which is why each single case must be examined on its merits. All of the evidence must be weighed,” defense attorney Kathleen Bliss said, according to ABC News. 

 

“Yes, we do have to deal with sexual assault. We do. It’s a worldwide problem,” Bliss continued. “But questioning an accuser is not shaming a victim. Gut feelings are not rational decisions. Mob rule is not due process, and just as we have had horrible, horrible crimes in our history, we’ve also had horrible, horrible periods of time where emotion and hatred and fear overwhelmed us: witch hunts, lynchings, McCarthyism.”

 

This trial was slightly different from last year’s because Judge Steven O’Neill allowed five additional accusers to testify, as their stories closely resembled the claims made by Constand. Their testimonies were used as evidence of Cosby’s prior bad acts and allowed the prosecution to show a pattern of predatory behavior by Cosby. 

 

The five other accusers who testified were former supermodel Janice Dickinson, Janice Baker-Kinney, Heidi Thomas, Chelan Lasha and Lise-Lotte Lublin. 

Dickinson testified that Cosby drugged and raped her after the two had dinner at a Lake Tahoe, California, hotel. 

“Here was ‘America’s Dad’ on top of me ― a happily married man with five children. And I remember thinking how wrong it was ― how very, very wrong,” she testified, adding later that she wanted to “punch him in the face.” 

 

Cosby’s lawyers unsuccessfully sought a mistrial during the hearing. On April 11, a visibly emotional Lasha took the stand to testify that Cosby had drugged and assaulted her in Las Vegas, Nevada, in 1986 when she was 17 years old.  

As the courtroom was being dismissed for a lunch break after Lasha’s testimony, Lasha looked at Cosby and said, “You know what you did” or “You remember, don’t you, Mr. Cosby?” according to various reports. O’Neill denied the defense’s mistrial request.

 

The three-week trial was the first high-profile sexual assault case in the Me Too era and tensions were high. Dozens of protestors flocked to the Pennsylvania courtroom outside of Philadelphia.

One protestor named Nicolle Rochelle, who appeared on “The Cosby Show” in the 1990s, lunged at Cosby outside of the courtroom on the first day of the trial. Rochelle was topless and had the names of Cosby’s alleged victims written all over her body, with the words “women’s lives matter” written on her chest. 

“He’s a man who’s disempowered women’s bodies for decades. It doesn’t seem to be recognized,” Rochelle told People at the time. “The case is being publicized with this narrative of race. He’s being painted as the victim. I wanted to emphasize that this is about rape. I wanted to make him uncomfortable and to make people think about women’s bodies.” 

Other demonstrators protested in support of Cosby, claiming the entertainer is innocent. One protester passed out fliers at the courthouse throughout the trial that warned of “mass demonstrations” if Cosby is convicted. 

More than 50 women have accused the veteran entertainer of sexual assault, with many saying he drugged and raped them. 

 

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/bill-cosby-found-guilty-on-all-counts-in-sexual-assault-retrial_us_5adf7c79e4b061c0bfa274b3

 

 Well......... where are all the protesters, huh? Now, send the geriatric bastard to prison.