WHL rocks Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 16 minutes ago, LaBamba said: Columbus making the best out of a crappy situation. I am a firm believer in building from the back. On average it takes a Dman 8 years from his draft year to reach his full potential. Imagine what a 28 year old Seth Jones and a 25 year old Mathews will look like. i would give the edge to Columbus. People are calling the Preds Stanley cup champions for picking up a struggling player? Pete Lavs ain't no easy coach to play for. We will see if he can adapt. Excellent post. People on CDC think Canucks are going to draft a couple of top 5 picks and be contenders in a year or 2. I've been saying over and over that for a player to be drafted at 18 and then to develop into a difference maker takes several years. It's longer for a Dman than forward. And either case its 6+ years. Wish more people who know this would post this because the hockey IQ on CDD is getting lower by the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, oldnews said: You have to like the future of the CBJ blueline with Murray, Jones, Werenski, Savard, Johnson, Paliotta... Copy cat :0! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, oldnews said: You have to like the future of the CBJ blueline with Murray, Jones, Werenski, Savard, Johnson, Paliotta... Impressive list. Perhaps CBJ deals one(Murray) to Edm for offense? Almost appears too much of a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 5 minutes ago, Odd. said: Filip Forsberg. That would be the other team help i'm referring to. Some other teams have more than this for an offensive arsenal, so it's not like Nashville is a shoo-in now, esp. in the west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 28 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Hard to think of a historical precedent for this good ol' blockbuster. Was it Shanny for Pronger(or stevens)?..old age is kickin' in. Shanny for Pronger, I remember that trade, Like I said earlier in this thread this trade is something we'll be talking about 10 years from now. 1C for 1D, both teams fill a need. Great trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV77 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Lateral deal where both teams get a good player and fill needs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Impressive list. Perhaps CBJ deals one(Murray) to Edm for offense? Almost appears too much of a good thing. Murray for RNH would make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 WOW! It did Happen. I am shocked and I will eat my words indeed as I did not think Poille would do a 1-1 trade with a guy with possible attitude and health issues for Jones. I expected Ekholm + or even Weber but nto Jones. Absolutely stunned. Drouin And Yzerman start pouting...Jones has been 3 times the impact player and you're not getting that return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 how come when other teams need a top center or defenceman they get it done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLuciano Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Columbus wins long term Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 1 minute ago, theminister said: Murray for RNH would make sense. Or Yakupov. Would be pretty funny if that happened since Oilers should have taken Murray in the first place leaving Yakupov to Columbus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 23 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Now CBJ could use a center (Jenner's surely not #1 yet), I'd love Murray or Savard. Jones in on the right side pushes Savard down. He's 25, righty, big and strong. Murray is obviously more of a puck mover. Would probably cost a McCann/Horvat for one of those guys plus a pick though. I'd say it allows them to use Dubinsky and Jenner in the top 6, with Wennberg pushing a bit as well now. I do wonder if this affects their evaluation on Murray though to where they might consider moving him, or if he's still too important to their left side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 1 minute ago, TheRussianRocket. said: Or Yakupov. Would be pretty funny if that happened since Oilers should have taken Murray in the first place leaving Yakupov to Columbus. Columbus needs a playmaking centre more than they need a flashy no D winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Good deal for both team: Forsberg - RyJo - Fiala is going to be fun to watch and all three are still so young. I'm now kind of interested to see how Granberg does as I assume he draws in. Did Toronto make the right choice to waive him for Corrado? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I think we are the biggest winners of this trade. Imagine what trader Jim woulda gave up for either of these players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 5 minutes ago, Trebreh said: how come when other teams need a top center or defenceman they get it done Well, when you have an asset you need to move who has high value it sure makes it easier. 7 minutes ago, theminister said: Murray for RNH would make sense. Maybe. Of course I would have preferred if it would be to us instead, with us moving Edler to the Islanders for Hamonic as well, but I'll come back to reality now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Well what do you know? A trade that makes sense for both teams! Great trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, LaBamba said: I think we are the biggest winners of this trade. Imagine what trader Jim woulda gave up for either of these players. Tanev ++ or Horvat ++ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 8 minutes ago, Trebreh said: how come when other teams need a top center or defenceman they get it done Because other teams have not been drafting in the bottom 10 during draft day for nearly a decade, or have kept and or stockpiled all their picks while developing them and not trading them for rental assets or in bad trades. Sad to say we were never in the same league as at least 5 to 7 other teams who would have been in on this imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 14 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Impressive list. Perhaps CBJ deals one(Murray) to Edm for offense? Almost appears too much of a good thing. You can never have too many top pairing defenders. Because one day when your almost a contender, but lacking that true #1 C or power forward. You'll have multiple top pairing Dmen that teams will pay a premium for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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