Me_ Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 14 minutes ago, asian player said: With shink and Gaunce coming in next year, we can afford to retain Higgins Etem. End of story. The Canucks traded for Etem, that makes Higgins expendable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 8 minutes ago, goblix said: It's hard to call it decisiveness when it's forced but yes it's good to see decisiveness and a GM keeping his word that he will hit the hard questions and stick to the plan on getting younger. During the Gillis regime, he traded too many picks, missed on too many of them, and the contracts he signed had too many NTC tied to them. He made it hard on himself to move players. I get taking a bit less for NTC security. I think the best way to go about handing them out is if a contract is for 4 years, make the ntc in effect for the first 2 yrs of the deal but it goes away in the last 2. It still gives players security. I would especially say this to players like Higgins guys who will be slowing down as their contract expires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, cdubuya said: Or we could get a great pick for him and let Higgins fill his role.. If higgins could get a midround pick then great. I wouldn't be surprised if he cleared waivers... If you think higgins can fill Hansen's role you haven't watched a Canucks game in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekey Pete Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 16 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Yes. True. But when they decided to do it, they did it. I like that decisiveness. I think Benning is of that same mind. And that, in and of itself, is truly exciting. I think we can agree on that. I do like the new mantra of following through with your word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Just now, The Sedge said: I think we can agree on that. I do like the new mantra of following through with your word It's refreshing. Benning's plan is a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Just now, Yotes said: I get taking a bit less for NTC security. I think the best way to go about handing them out is if a contract is for 4 years, make the ntc in effect for the first 2 yrs of the deal but it goes away in the last 2. It still gives players security. I would especially say this to players like Higgins guys who will be slowing down as their contract expires Depends on the NTC terms. But yes he did the hometown discount thing too much on too many players on this team. I like limited-NTC they seem to fit vets that fit a role. Theres too much secrecies in the terms of NTC and we never get the clear story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperReverb2 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 5 minutes ago, Yotes said: superreverb2 dont forget Prust and possibly Bart. I dont think benning moves all pending UFA's to be but he should look at moving most of them I would tend to agree. Prust was great with McCann and Dorsett before his ankle injury, but has struggled since his return. Bart was/is great at getting the puck out of his own end (good wheels) but constantly gets lost once he reaches center ice which usually results in a turn over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 8 hours ago, tas said: because, believe it or not, not many players are eager to play with the pressure of being the hometown saviour in the largest, most critical media market in the game, especially when the franchise has been utterly hopeless for 50 years. Nah. I think Stammer would rather be the "savior" for his hometown Leafs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 1 hour ago, PhillipBlunt said: Stanley Bowman begs to differ. Imo, Dale Tallon built the winning Hawks team. They weren't a tanking team, just a really bad team for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Just now, higgyfan said: Imo, Dale Tallon built the winning Hawks team. They weren't a tanking team, just a really bad team for a long time. But Bowman was the one who traded away Versteeg, Byfuglien, and Ladd, and then Bolland, Saad, Sharp later on. My point is that Chicago manages it's team well, and sees what the core is and who can be moved. From a people perspective, it's always hard to do, but it needs to get done. And now Benning is doing this as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC20.0 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, higgyfan said: Imo, Dale Tallon built the winning Hawks team. They weren't a tanking team, just a really bad team for a long time. Yeah, same as LA. Both were just awful teams for years. They didn't have to tank like Buffalo, and eventually won a few cups just by restocking their prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said: But Bowman was the one who traded away Versteeg, Byfuglien, and Ladd, and then Bolland, Saad, Sharp later on. My point is that Chicago manages it's team well, and sees what the core is and who can be moved. From a people perspective, it's always hard to do, but it needs to get done. And now Benning is doing this as well. Point taken. He has done a remarkable job keeping that team in line with the cap and still a contender. But...when you look at the lineup of players he had for trades... Yes, Benning is doing a good job for what he has to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 5 minutes ago, HC20.0 said: Yeah, same as LA. Both were just awful teams for years. They didn't have to tank like Buffalo, and eventually won a few cups just by restocking their prospects. Brayden schenn 5th overall Doughty 2nd overall Hickey 4th overall To a lesser extent Quick and kopitar both 11th overall i consider 3 consecutive top 5 picks a tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 On 10/01/2016 at 6:13 AM, thejazz97 said: More specifically, Etem. Hey, even Vey has played pretty good on recall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Quick was a 3rd round pick not 11th overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Higgins for Drouin and a 4th imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, Yotes said: Quick was a 3rd round pick not 11th overall Was thinking of bernier. My bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Take the human part of it out and look at the books only and there's nothing wrong with trading. I'm pretty happy with what Benning has achieved. To trade Gillis' NTCs is not an easy task. With Higgins, another one of Gillis' NTC is out the door. D. SEDIN - NMC H. SEDIN - NMC BURROWS - NTCHIGGINS - NTC HANSEN - NTC EDLER - NTC HAMHUIS - NTC (UFA)GARRISON - NTCKESLER - NTC BIEKSA - NTC VRBATA - NTC (GMJB) (UFA) MILLER - NTC (GMJB) SUTTER - NTC (GMJB) Banning has given Vrbata, Miller and Sutter NTCs. Trading any or all of Burrows, Hansen, Edler, Hamhuis, Vrbata would do wonders for this team. I think Miller is Benning's man and Markstrom is definitely benefiting from having Miller around. If all else fails, Hamhuis and Vrbata are UFAs; that's two less NTCs on the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 On 10/01/2016 at 6:43 AM, Yotes said: Torts and AV did like him. But rangers are tight with cap space, and Columbus would likely want hartnell or clarkson off their books. Not sure what columbus would offer us for him. Rychel has asked out, but even if we add to higgins with a prospect like grenier would they have interest or would that be enough? I know a lot of ppl on here want to see Grenier on the Canucks, but maybe Benning doesnt see him becoming an nhler? As much as Rychel has asked for a trade... They are in last place and he is a hot prospect. My own guess is they will try and make amends? On 10/01/2016 at 6:49 AM, on the cycle said: The islanders have $4.5 million in cap space. If we trade Higgins and Hamhuis we'd have to take back at least 2.5 million or retain salary for both guys (which is more likely). We could take a Hamonic($3.85), De Haan($2.2), or Hickey($1.96). How about retaining the max on Hamhuis and some as necessary on Vrbata; To NYI: Higgins, rights to Hamhuis (injured), Vrbata To Van: Hamonic, Mayfield. NYI go on a run? And Boom, our right side D is suddenly set! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 10 minutes ago, BananaMash said: Higgins for Drouin and a 4th imo Higgins and a 4th for Drouin is a BIT closer. But still a bit far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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